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High School Diploma - Qualifications equivalent
« on: February 07, 2013, 03:03:55 PM »
Hello,

Just a bit of a sum up of myself, I'm a dual citizen, (British Mother, American Father), born and raised in Oklahoma :) I moved to Kent to live with my boyfriend and his family while he is in university.

Now I'm trying to find a job. oh the headache...

I have my NI number, British passport, High School Diploma and I'm having my transcript sent over to me.

On every job application I have seen, it always asks for qualifications. Does anyone know the equivalent a High School Diploma would produce?

Thanks so much for the help in advance!


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Re: High School Diploma - Qualifications equivalent
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2013, 04:19:43 PM »
I believe it is "A Levels", but someone will come along and know for sure. :)
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Re: High School Diploma - Qualifications equivalent
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2013, 04:47:14 PM »
I thought it was more like GCSEs, but if you took Advanced Placement courses in high  school, those were more like A-Levels. I could be wrong though.


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Re: High School Diploma - Qualifications equivalent
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2013, 05:14:53 PM »
GCSE is the General Certificate of Secondary Education. I'd say it was closest to a High School Diploma, if that is the highest level you had, on strict equivalency .

What would you need to know the equivalency for? If it is only for job applications, I'd just put High School Diploma and subjects, if it is the highest level achieved and say that it is roughly equivalent to GCSEs in the same subjects.

See for example:
http://www3.cardiffmet.ac.uk/English/StudyAtUWIC/Courses/pages/overseas-qualifications.aspx

But for undergraduate degree university entrance, a US High School Diploma is likely to be sufficient:

http://www.londoninternational.ac.uk/sites/default/files/entrance_qualifications.pdf

Especially if a mature student, but I'd check with the individual university(ies)

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Re: High School Diploma - Qualifications equivalent
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2013, 05:32:33 PM »
 I had a few discussions with my local Uni and I was told that a US HS Diploma is equal to 4 GCSE's at "C" or above. Any College courses you may have taken in the US roughly translate to A Levels. Bear in mind this is not written in stone and may vary, but its a good guide as to your "qualifications".


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Re: High School Diploma - Qualifications equivalent
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2013, 08:40:48 AM »
Bull! Any US college courses translate to A levels?

People go to grad school in the UK based on their US undergraduate degrees.


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Re: High School Diploma - Qualifications equivalent
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2013, 08:50:42 AM »
IMO American qualifications are undervalued in the UK.  I've seen some GCSE exams, and there is no way that they are equivalent to a college-track high school diploma, even without AP classes.  Maybe the problem is that there's no national standard in the US, and the person who takes honors everything with a full credit load all four years gets the same piece of paper as someone who got a C- in advanced woodworking. 

Whatever the reason, it's rubbish. 
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Re: High School Diploma - Qualifications equivalent
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2013, 05:22:24 PM »
Totally. I worked my a@@ in some high school courses.  Way more than my husband did in some of his A Levels. 

It is some of those other states that bring the rest down.  If all of the US adopted Massachusetts' curriculum we'd be in the top 8 for math, reading, and science. SIGH! 


Re: High School Diploma - Qualifications equivalent
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2013, 05:45:26 PM »
IMO American qualifications are undervalued in the UK.  I've seen some GCSE exams, and there is no way that they are equivalent to a college-track high school diploma, even without AP classes.  Maybe the problem is that there's no national standard in the US, and the person who takes honors everything with a full credit load all four years gets the same piece of paper as someone who got a C- in advanced woodworking. 

Whatever the reason, it's rubbish. 

I think it's to do with a weird British prejuidice about broader educations being less in-depth and therefore easier than very focussed ones which is why everyone freaked at the idea of introducing the baccalaureate (stupidly, the IB is fantastic).

What they don't take into account is course load, and how hard that is if you're not a very specialised person, like I'm very STEM focussed, so having a narrow set of A levels then a Physics only degree was easy peasy, but I would have struggled if my education had been broader, on the flip side of that I have massive gaps in my knowledge because I gave up some subjects entirely at 13 never to be studied again, also luckily it worked out for me, but making 14 year olds determine their future career path is stupid.



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Re: High School Diploma - Qualifications equivalent
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2013, 06:38:32 PM »
I agree that it's a bit short sighted to make 14 year olds give up on subjects entirely. I am very oriented towards social sciences, I would have given up all math and science type classes. Instead, I took 7 years of math in 4 years of high school and I'm really glad I did. I ended up liking math a lot more by the end of it than I started out with. I never would have been motivated to do it if not for the motivation of college admission. Because I worked really hard in high school and passed a slew of AP tests, I never had to take a math or science class in college.

By the end of sophomore year (about the age at which students take the GCSEs), counting HS classes took while in middle school, I had taken 4 years of HS math, 3 of Spanish, 2 of science, 1 of French, 2 of history and 2 of English. That pretty much more than fulfilled my state's academic requirements for graduation in everything but English (4 years required, no way to get ahead) and history (3 years required, also no way to get ahead). I'd put my last two years of high school up against any A level course load. My easy electives senior year were French III (I was also in AP Spanish) and a class that basically amounted to 20th Century History. But I could have just as easily taken nothing for two years but English, history (junior year), gym and advanced basket weaving (or whatever) and gotten the same diploma. So I understand why US diplomas are underrated.


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Re: High School Diploma - Qualifications equivalent
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2013, 11:43:04 PM »
Bull! Any US college courses translate to A levels?

People go to grad school in the UK based on their US undergraduate degrees.

Easy there bookgrl, you obviously didn't read my post too closely. Any College courses you may have taken in the US roughly translate to A Levels. Bear in mind this is not written in stone and may vary, but its a good guide as to your "qualifications".

I have greater than 120 Credit Hours at US Universities, but no BA. This was due to taking courses while in the military, only to find they weren't accepted in neighbouring accreditation regions.

When I moved to the UK (permanently and as a citizen) I was told by multiple Universities that the best I could hope for was that "some" may count towards "A" levels, some may not. This includes the "36 credit hour general education" requirement of most (if not all) US BA/BS degrees.

I agree with historyenne in that "Maybe the problem is that there's no national standard in the US". I'd like to add to her statement "there's no national standard in the US, that is recognised internationally.


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Re: High School Diploma - Qualifications equivalent
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2013, 04:23:59 PM »
I wasn't saying bull to you, but bull to the sentiment. 

However, since Unis here aren't set up in the same way I understand why you can't get "credit" for college courses.

In terms of high school credits, except for AP Courses, there is no national standard in the US.


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Re: High School Diploma - Qualifications equivalent
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2013, 09:33:15 AM »
Maybe the problem is that there's no national standard in the US, and the person who takes honors everything with a full credit load all four years gets the same piece of paper as someone who got a C- in advanced woodworking. 

Hey I took advanced woodworking in high school ,it's bloody hard!
I also took plastics technology, technical drawing, advanced technology (robotics, electronics, and computer aided machining).  Very hard classes and quite useful these days in my practical engineering life. 

I have a friend who has a high school diploma from technical high school -in Mould Making Design - that's very hard stuff- and she worked for a while enjoyed it and got a great job at 18, but decided she wanted to further understand everything, so she went back to school and went on to get a Master's Degree in Plastics Engineering.  Her High School education, however, was extremely useful.  I also have a friend who has a high school diploma in Plumbing and he's filthy stinking rich, successfully running and managing his plumbing empire. He learned business skills and money management in addition to plumbing.    I have another friend who has a high school diploma from an Agricultural Technical High School. He’s a large animal vet tech and has never looked back.   

All three went to Massachusetts Technical High Schools and all of them had to meet the minimum state requirements for high school.  Just because someone chooses to take lots and lots of AP classes in ‘classical’ subjects does not make their high school diplomas any more valid than someone who went a different path.

In my own thinking, a high school diploma is equivalent to standard grades and a few Highers/HNC. A US associate’s degree is equivalent to an HND.  A US Bachelors degree is equivalent to a UK Honours Bachelors degree. 
 Actually, can one put a US high school diploma as equivalent to a baccalaureate ?? That seems the most appropriate!! 
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Re: High School Diploma - Qualifications equivalent
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2013, 05:21:46 PM »
Yes. The Vo-Tech kids at my high school all did regular classes for a half day. 

It was convenient for the rest of us because we shared a vo-tech with three rural countries. So if they called a snow day we all got one. Awesome.


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