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Offline Ben1989

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Re: Dual citizenship and passports
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2017, 04:37:57 PM »
You forgot to add that you'll now receive super dirty looks from people that you even DARED to bring a child onto an airplane.   :P  When often times, kids aren't the worst behaved ones, you know?   ;)

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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2017, 04:57:55 PM »
The best is when they let the parents board the plane first.  Last time that happened, we looked at our kids (10 and 13) and tried to figure out if it still meant us.  Heck yeah, out of my way suckers!  Parents privilege. 

Almost made up for the time when I was blissfully holding my daughter, sitting outside at the pub.  It was a lovely summer day.  I felt something wierd ..."how did I get mustard on my shirt?"    Of course it was poo all over my white t shirt and I had to walk all the way through the pub to go try and clean it in the sink.  This happened when she was a baby, not recently!
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Re: Dual citizenship and passports
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2017, 06:57:33 PM »
This interests me as we'll be in the position soon with our soon-to-be daughter. She will obviously hold a US and UK passport (Dad-UKC, Mum-USC).

When entering details into the flight passport section when checking in, do people put their US info and just use their UK passport at Border Control?

So:
- Check-in online/at the desk (UK) - US Passport
- USA Border Control - US Passport
- Check-in online/at the desk (US) - US Passport
- UK Border Control - UK Passport

Is this correct?

I realize that KFdancer does it differently but everything I have read indicates that what you have here is correct.  :)
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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2017, 08:07:36 PM »
Close.

So:
- Check-in online/at the desk (UK) - US Passport
- USA Border Control - US Passport
- Check-in online/at the desk (US) - UK Passport
- UK Border Control - UK Passport

Are you sure @kfdancer? I've always done it the way OP wrote - on the grounds that US citizens are required to enter AND leave with US Passport. I "switch identities" mid air and use my U.K. Passport in LHR but only after having checked in with the US one to close the loop, as it were, on the US visit with one recorded entry and one exit.


From state Dept website: "Most U.S. nationals, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. " https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/citizenship-and-dual-nationality/dual-nationality.html

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Re: Dual citizenship and passports
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2017, 08:14:30 PM »
I promise that's what I do!  Otherwise they want to know your visa info for the UK.

If I were to go through passport control on the way OUT (and some places DO have that), I would have the exit stamp placed in the US passport, not UK passport.

Looks like both ways work.   :)

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Re: Dual citizenship and passports
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2017, 08:05:31 AM »
Sounds like a case of 'whatever works'
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Re: Dual citizenship and passports
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2017, 02:46:35 PM »
Sounds like a case of 'whatever works'

Actually, I believe it's the law.

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Travel to and from the United States

Important Notice: According to Section 215 of the U.S Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1185) it is illegal for a U.S. citizen to enter or leave the United States on anything other than a U.S. passport. This applies to dual citizens as well, meaning that persons holding e.g. both Irish and U.S. citizenships MUST enter and leave the United States on a valid U.S. passport; they may NOT enter/leave the United States on an Irish/foreign passport. This applies to children as well as adults.
 

https://ie.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/passports/first-time-passport-applicants-over-the-age-of-18/   

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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2017, 02:51:24 PM »
When we got the US passports for the kids at the London Embassy, they made us promise that we would never let the kids enter the states on their French passports.  They were super concerned about it and gave us lectures about how horrible it would be.

I'm just curious, but why is there a law about this?  Who cares what passport you use?
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Re: Dual citizenship and passports
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2017, 03:01:46 PM »
I'm just curious, but why is there a law about this?  Who cares what passport you use?

I found this.

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The history of the requirement that U.S. citizens only use U.S. passports to enter the U.S. 

  http://isaacbrocksociety.ca/2013/05/01/the-history-of-the-requirement-that-u-s-citizens-only-use-u-s-passports-to-enter-the-u-s/
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Re: Dual citizenship and passports
« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2017, 03:13:41 PM »
I skimmed through all that and didn't see any good reasons.  I did notice some big downsides, like people who weren't planning to land in the US and consequently didn't bring their passport getting into trouble. 

Looks like the fine was high at one point as well.

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Re: Dual citizenship and passports
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2017, 03:33:47 AM »
You forgot to add that you'll now receive super dirty looks from people that you even DARED to bring a child onto an airplane.   :P  When often times, kids aren't the worst behaved ones, you know?   ;)

You'll be fine.  You'll love being a dad.

Gawd, the thought of children on a long haul flight... *shudders*!  I've only been that unlucky once!


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Re: Dual citizenship and passports
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2017, 08:56:06 AM »
Gawd, the thought of children on a long haul flight... *shudders*!  I've only been that unlucky once!

I'm gonna find out your next flight and book the seat next to you for my toddler.  BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

Then I'll go sit in a quiet seat in the back and drink wine.   ;)