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Tory changes to sponsored based visas.
« on: May 18, 2017, 12:47:37 PM »
From their manifesto document.

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We will, therefore, continue to bear down on immigration from outside the European Union. We will increase the earnings thresholds for people wishing to sponsor migrants for family visas.

Clearly this is not good, they don't provide figures at this stage. I assume due to how they do the visas every 2.5 years this will affect many already in the UK for when they progress onto their 2nd visa?


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Re: Tory changes to sponsored based visas.
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2017, 01:16:56 PM »
Do we get grandfathered in to the terms of the first visa?  So those of us who came in under the 5 year route with £18,600 requirement would continue to follow those rules? 

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Re: Tory changes to sponsored based visas.
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2017, 01:24:46 PM »
I would hope so as people who applied before the rule changes in 2012 maintained the 2 years to ILR route without having to meet the £18,600 income requirement, but we probably won't know for certain until more specific guidance is put into place.
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Re: Tory changes to sponsored based visas.
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2017, 01:32:15 PM »
My Understanding so far is they will also increase the NHS surcharge and make it near impossible for someone on a visa by making employers pay £2000 to hire someone on a visa ..not sure how much is fact and how much is scare stories ...I can only confirm the increase is finances from the Tory manifesto .... either way scary times
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Re: Tory changes to sponsored based visas.
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2017, 01:41:28 PM »
My Understanding so far is they will also increase the NHS surcharge and make it near impossible for someone on a visa by making employers pay £2000 to hire someone on a visa ..not sure how much is fact and how much is scare stories ...I can only confirm the increase is finances from the Tory manifesto .... either way scary times
On a work visa, or on any visa?  I did not see that in the manifesto but I didn't read every single line very closely.
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Re: Tory changes to sponsored based visas.
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2017, 01:44:53 PM »
Not sure .. like I say I didn't read it in the manifesto myself so might be something of nothing

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Re: Tory changes to sponsored based visas.
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2017, 01:57:20 PM »
My Understanding so far is they will also increase the NHS surcharge and make it near impossible for someone on a visa by making employers pay £2000 to hire someone on a visa ..not sure how much is fact and how much is scare stories ...I can only confirm the increase is finances from the Tory manifesto .... either way scary times

I believe the £2000 fee applies to the skilled workers category, for which there is already a fee which employers pay.  Sirius will probably know more about the specifics.
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Re: Tory changes to sponsored based visas.
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2017, 01:58:55 PM »
I believe the £2000 fee applies to the skilled workers category, for which there is already a fee which employers pay.  Sirius will probably know more about the specifics.
Ohh so may not apply to those on a fiance/spouse visa?

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Re: Tory changes to sponsored based visas.
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2017, 02:00:06 PM »
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Re: Tory changes to sponsored based visas.
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2017, 02:00:13 PM »
I believe the £2000 fee applies to the skilled workers category, for which there is already a fee which employers pay.  Sirius will probably know more about the specifics.

I was just typing :) The skills charge is only for the points based Tier 2 General visa  and will be 1k per year, per person sponsored.


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Re: Tory changes to sponsored based visas.
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2017, 02:04:59 PM »
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Re: Tory changes to sponsored based visas.
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2017, 02:07:41 PM »
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Re: Tory changes to sponsored based visas.
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2017, 02:09:25 PM »
My Understanding so far is they will also increase the NHS surcharge

I don't think anyone expects the IHS to stay at £200 a year? That was the figure used for the Immigration Bill going through Parliament and the Lords, to end  'free NHS for everyone legally living in the UK'.

We know that IHS money is held by central government and that the cost of any treatment for those who paid the IHS, does not come from that NHS Trusts budget, as they claim this cost back from this central fund.  I guess at some point they will know if the money in equals the money out? A straightforward birth is something like 3k.
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Re: Tory changes to sponsored based visas.
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2017, 02:15:16 PM »
My fear is that even if current visas do get grandfathered into the old rules, it will only count for actual visas and not applications. My visa might not come in before the election, so we'll be stuck with whatever new rules they determine. :(
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Re: Tory changes to sponsored based visas.
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2017, 02:20:20 PM »
My fear is that even if current visas do get grandfathered into the old rules, it will only count for actual visas and not applications. My visa might not come in before the election, so we'll be stuck with whatever new rules they determine. :(

I don't think it will come in that quickly? When are you applying?

It's EU rules that can be backdated, not usually UK immigration rules.



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