Poll: Effect of the new immigration rules on UK-Y

Count on it? Why? The government want to reduce net immigration. That is a completely different issue to people becoming citizens and participating in democracy - something all political parties want.

I think you are guessing. Or do you have a source for being so certain?

Andy

The government has no such interest.   More people getting citizenship = more people they can't try to annoy into leaving by arbrtitrarily changing the immigration rules later on.    Restricting citizenship also means fewer inflammatory headlines from the likes of the Daily Mail about how "the government gave out 50,000 British passports last year" and similar.

Any means by which a non-UK citizen can reside in the UK, they want to attack.

More people getting citizenship = more people they can't try to annoy into leaving by arbrtitrarily changing the immigration rules later on.

Only people with ILR/ILE can apply so they cannot be "annoyed into leaving" anyway. I think they can only be deported in limited situations, usually involving a serious mistake/act on the immigrants part.

Andy

Currently that is the case. 

Labour were discussing a few years ago making people resubmit every x number of years to keep your ILR going.  It was scrapped, but I am sure the idea is still out there.

Currently that is the case. 

Labour were discussing a few years ago making people resubmit every x number of years to keep your ILR going.  It was scrapped, but I am sure the idea is still out there.

That would be outrageous. I've already given them enough of my money and I pay taxes here. Surely they wouldn't apply something like this retroactively to people who already have ILR, would they? I'll be applying for citizenship next spring (need to wait to have known my referees for 3 years) but what an appalling idea, regardless!

This was the old government and just an idea they tossing around to see the reaction. 

The current government has no plans to make anyone do this.

Currently that is the case. 

Labour were discussing a few years ago making people resubmit every x number of years to keep your ILR going.  It was scrapped, but I am sure the idea is still out there.

If you have ILR on a BRP, would you need to renew it every 10 years if you didn't want to become a citizen for some reason?

As I said, this is something Labour were talking about a few years ago.

Nothing came of it.   

 

The BRP itself needs to be renewed every 10 years, but it's not a new ILR each time.

Just found the impact statement of the new rules:

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/news/fam-impact-state.pdf

It's an interesting read.  On p19 they state that spousal visas are expected to be reduced by about 41% by the new income threshold, which is close to what our own (non-scientific) poll is showing.

Just found the impact statement of the new rules:

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/news/fam-impact-state.pdf

It's an interesting read.  On p19 they state that spousal visas are expected to be reduced by about 41% by the new income threshold, which is close to what our own (non-scientific) poll is showing.

I had a quick browse earlier and I can't recall exactly, but in numbers, didn't that come out to about a 15k annual reduction, or something in that ballpark?

Sounds about right - about 35k spousal visas were granted last year

I am going to say No, even though I didn't get a chance to vote (didn't see the thread till now). My DH was earning around £15,000, was a £1,000 into his overdraft due to the wedding, and had no savings. I didn't have a job or any savings...so I am very grateful that I was approved when I was!

OK sorry if I missed on the subject, but I'm sure I will be corrected if I'm wrong. Here's the question, if your significant other doesn't make enough to qualify would savings help at all? Or is that an absurd amount that is needed to even attempt to do? Cuz I'm pretty sure he makes only 7 quid an hour. Sorry if someone said it/answered that on here already, but I'm kinda in a hurry and I don't have time to look through the ten pages of dialogue.

OK sorry if I missed on the subject, but I'm sure I will be corrected if I'm wrong. Here's the question, if your significant other doesn't make enough to qualify would savings help at all? Or is that an absurd amount that is needed to even attempt to do? Cuz I'm pretty sure he makes only 7 quid an hour. Sorry if someone said it/answered that on here already, but I'm kinda in a hurry and I don't have time to look through the ten pages of dialogue.

MandyBoo, this is from Historyenne's post analyzing the changes in the rules...

"If the sponsor's income is less than £18,600, the deficit can be made up with savings.  However, ONLY savings in excess of £16,000 will be considered, and then the sponsor must have 2.5 times the difference between his income and the requirement, IN ADDITION to the £16,000 minimum.  So if the sponsor earns £15,000 he must have £25,000 (16,000 + (3,600 x 2.5)) in savings or the application will be refused. "

OK sorry if I missed on the subject, but I'm sure I will be corrected if I'm wrong. Here's the question, if your significant other doesn't make enough to qualify would savings help at all? Or is that an absurd amount that is needed to even attempt to do? Cuz I'm pretty sure he makes only 7 quid an hour. Sorry if someone said it/answered that on here already, but I'm kinda in a hurry and I don't have time to look through the ten pages of dialogue.

Mandy, yes savings can be used to help with any income shortfall.  But it is a large amount.  

I am going to guess with the info you gave us.  If he earns £7 per hour and works 40 hours per week, his annual income is £14,560.  That means he is short £4040 per year.  Multiply £4040 x 2.5 for a total of £10100.  Add £10100 to £16000 (the base set by UKBA) and he would need £26100 in savings to offset his earnings shortfall.

I would also kindly suggest that if these rules are important to you, you start by taking the time to read about them.  I had to do that.  I know you can too.