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Spouse Visa - Accomodation question
« on: March 15, 2022, 03:52:14 PM »
Hi Guys,

First post here and will probably be posting a lot so please be patient with me!

I am applying for a Spouse Visa and live in a Council Flat for the past 5 years.

Today I called my local Housing Association and asked for a letter confirming no objection to house a spouse.

They flat out refused and said they will only provide a Tenancy Agreement.

I also have a council Tax bill and utility bills and can take pictures of the 1 bedroom flat.

If I write a supporting letter myself with my tenancy agreement will this suffice?

Thank you for your time.

Kind regards,
Mazed


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Re: Spouse Visa - Accomodation question
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2022, 04:10:35 PM »
Welcome to the forum :).

First post here and will probably be posting a lot so please be patient with me!

Feel free to post any questions you have :).

If you can keep all your posts about the visa application in just one thread, that's really helpful for us, as it means all your questions and the answers are all in one place, so we can easily check back to see what your situation is and what advice has already been given.

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I am applying for a Spouse Visa and live in a Council Flat for the past 5 years.

Today I called my local Housing Association and asked for a letter confirming no objection to house a spouse.

They flat out refused and said they will only provide a Tenancy Agreement.

I also have a council Tax bill and utility bills and can take pictures of the 1 bedroom flat.

If I write a supporting letter myself with my tenancy agreement will this suffice?

Unfortunately, you need to prove that the visa applicant has permission from the homeowner or landlord (in this case, the council) to move into the property once the visa has been granted.

If you can't show proof that they will be living with you in guaranteed accommodation when they arrive in the UK, the visa is unlikely to be granted.

You don't need to provide council tax statements, utility bills, or pictures of the flat. What you DO need though is:
- the tenancy agreement in your name
AND
- a letter of permission from the housing authority for the applicant to move in once the visa has been granted

A couple of questions:

- What reason did the council give for refusing to write a letter?

- Does the tenancy agreement state anything about other people being allowed to live in the property?

It is actually illegal to for a landlord to rent to anyone who doesn't have a valid visa for the UK, so I wonder if that's the issue they are having. However, you only need to provide a letter stating that they will be GIVEN permission to live there AFTER the visa has been granted, not that they are being given permission to move in NOW.

Are you able to go back to them and explain the situation?

This is from the government website regarding providing evidence of suitable accommodation (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/maintenance-and-accommodation-maa/maintenance-and-accommodation-maa--2):

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9. MAA9 Assessing adequate accommodation
The ECO should be satisfied that the accommodation complies with the following requirements:
- it is (or will be) owned or legally occupied for the exclusive use of the couple (see definition in section below);
and
- it is capable of accommodating the couple, and any children, without overcrowding as defined in the Housing Act 1985 (see MAA134).
Depending on the circumstances of the case, there may be other relevant factors; for example, the ECO should be satisfied that housing the couple in rented accommodation will not be in breach of any tenancy agreement as regards sub-letting (see below).

10. MAA10 Legally owned or exclusively occupied
The ECO should consider the basis of the availability and security of tenure of the accommodation. Factors to be taken into account will include:

- the ownership of the property and/or the duration of a lease
- whether any lease enables the tenant to sublet to the couple or take them in as lodgers.

If the accommodation is not owned by the couple (or one of them), the Rules require that there be adequate accommodation which is for their exclusive use. This need not be as elaborate as a self-contained flat. It is acceptable for a couple to live in an existing household, for example, that of a parent, uncle, aunt, sibling or friend, as long as they have at least a bedroom for their exclusive use.

If the couple have children with them there must be additional adequate accommodation for them (see MAA134 for maximum numbers of persons allowed).

11. MAA11 Adequacy of accommodation
The ECO’s judgement should be based on the evidence from the applicant. If the ECO is not sure of the credibility of the applicant, he / she should ask to see a letter from the owner of the property (which may be a housing authority, housing association, landlord or a building society). This should confirm particulars of tenure and occupation of the dwelling, together with a description of the accommodation and, if rented, a copy of the lease.

The onus is on the applicant to provide confirmation that there is no objection to an additional resident moving into the accommodation.


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Re: Spouse Visa - Accomodation question
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2022, 04:21:13 PM »
Hi ksand!

Thank you so much.

This is the reason they provided:
"Further to your telephone conversation with me today I can confirm that in order for us to provide you with a letter we need a formal written request from immigration office or a copy of  the letter they have written to you making such a request.

Please note that in order for us to provide you with such a letter subject to a formal request from immigration there is an administration fee between £75.00 to £100.00

In the absences of such a letter I offered  a copy of your tenancy agreement which I made very clear that you need to collect from the office in person so we can verify who you are and your address."




I have actually already responded with what you provided earlier about government requirements and hope that will be enough.

If not... im wondering if I need to contact my local MP?

Kind regards,
Mazed


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Re: Spouse Visa - Accomodation question
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2022, 04:40:39 PM »
I have actually already responded with what you provided earlier about government requirements and hope that will be enough.

If not... im wondering if I need to contact my local MP?

Hopefully that will be enough, though the guidance does say that:
If the ECO is not sure of the credibility of the applicant, he / she should ask to see a letter from the owner of the property (which may be a housing authority, housing association, landlord or a building society)

So, the housing authority may just turn around and say again that they won't provide anything unless UKVI ask for a letter in writing.

I'm not sure whether contacting your MP is the way to go or not - usually they only really help in situations where a visa application hasn't been processed within the service standards time and you need to get them to step in to speed it up.

What you may end up having to do is provide:
- the tenancy agreement
and
- a letter from yourself stating that you tried to get a letter from the housing authority, but they refused
and
- a copy of the email from the housing authority stating that they won't do it without a letter from the immigration office


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Re: Spouse Visa - Accomodation question
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2022, 04:46:05 PM »
Thanks Ksand.

That is exactly what I will do - I will attach a copy of my correspondence with this association.



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Re: Spouse Visa - Income Query
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2022, 10:46:09 AM »
Hi Guys,

Me again :) - hope you are well

I have been working for the same organisation earning 30k for the last 18 months but have had a pay rise which is reflected in my pay last September.

So when applying im guessing this means that I cannot select "receiving same pay for 6 months"?

Also seeing as I am permanent and salaried do I need 12 months or will 6 months suffice?

Please note that after reading through this forum I have already ensured that my bank statements match my payslips for the last 6 months.

Thanks again guys - look forward to the replies :)


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