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Jump from Boyfriend to HUSBAND
« on: May 01, 2005, 01:03:53 AM »
Hello Everyone

I think I have thoroughly exhausted myself reading all the posts.

My boyfriend and I met at a wedding (very cliche) last year while I was still living in the US (student and work for three years). Our relationship began as emails graduated to phone calls (every day) and then we met up again in September for 2 weeks.
Sadly in October my visa ran out and I had to return to the UK.
He visited me at christmas, in the UK, for 2 weeks and I think he manged to meet pretty much everyone in my family and my friends too.
It was extemely hard from his visit in Dec/Jan to his visit just recently, I got more settled here with a new job and strengthened relationships with my family, and at the same time missed him terribly. He missed me too and also had a lot to go through as his mother (75) got sick a few times.

During his recent visit which could only be for a week (work constraints) we both confirmed how much we loved one another and our conversations switched from not whether we want to be with one another but HOW we could be together.

Now I have so many thought running through my mind I don't know where to start.

1.If I move back to the US, I'll be away from my whole family and it concerns me further down the line about me being pregnant and having children with my mother and sisters still in the UK

2.I'm still establsihing my career (not sure how far this current job will take me) and when I moved back here it took a while to get a job. I'm worried about the whole gap of employment I would have if I was to move back to the US.

3.We are both nervous for him to move here because of his mother. He has two older brothers who live the other side of the US than he does and they would just want to put her in a nursing home. It wouldn't be good to leave her on her own as she isn't in the best shape.

All of the above worry and that isn't including all the future visa stress and which country to process things in and then the whole event of getting married.

I think it is startlingly obvious that I am feeling slightly overwhelmed. Does anyone have any advice to me at this stage in everything?


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Re: Jump from Boyfriend to HUSBAND
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2005, 03:47:37 AM »
Dina,

You've thought out all the current and possible future issues, which is a good start. Welcome to the roller-coaster world of international romance!

To address your concerns:

1. Obviously, no matter who moves to which country, one of you is going to be away from your family for prolonged periods. You and he should honestly (and separately) make a list of the pros and cons of each of you moving to the other country. (To give you some background: I'm American and came to England five years ago to meet a man whom I'd never seen face-to-face. We met over the net, started sending each other several emails every day, exchanged pictures, started "chatting" on Yahoo Messenger, then started talking on the phone for hours every night, before we decided it was silly and we should simply meet and find out whether we clicked. Bear with me--I'm not making this about  me--I'm just telling you my own experience. I was supposed to visit for just two weeks, and ended up staying for five months, at which point we got married at a registrar's here. I'd had all my belongings put in storage. I was fortunate enough for employment not to be an issue--I'm self-employed and can work from anywhere, as long as I have a computer and internet connection. If we'd given it more thought, we'd have married in the States, as I'm from a large family (both immediate and extended), whereas he, his parents, and one cousin are his only family in England. Also, his parents are 60 and 61, whereas mine are 79 and 77--it would have made more sense to be in the States. Then again, obtaining a visa in the States is MUCH more difficult than it is to do here.) Now, back to your situation: Don't jump the gun by already thinking about what will happen if you have kids in the States, while your mother and sisters are still in the UK. One step at a time...

2. You didn't say what you do. Is it anything you could do on your own/without having a "9 to 5" employer? Even if not, most employers would understand a gap if you'd moved from one country to another.

3. Your boyfriend's concerns are valid, as far as his mother's health goes. I speak from experience, as my mom has, in the five years I've been here, gone from being seemingly normal to rapidly losing her memory--she's in the midstages of Alzheimer's. Even though four of my five brothers live in the D.C. area (and the fifth will be moving back in a couple of months), I suspect that between them and my dad, they'll put her in a nursing home if it becomes far too difficult to care for her. Since she's repeatedly requested a promise from me to never let her be put in a nursing home, no matter what (a promise I've repeatedly made), I understand your boyfriend's predicament of what might happen with his brothers if he's not there to intervene.

4. As far as your possible wedding goes (and I do have a bias, as I never had the fairytale fantasies, nor did I give a sh-t about the pomp and circumstance of the Charles and Diana wedding), should you decide to go through with it, keep it simple and go to a registrar's. Down the road, you can do something more formal (combined with a renewal of vows, perhaps)--that's our plan, anyway. If go to a registrar's initially, you'll be spared all the stress of arranging for all the details involved in an out-and-out wedding. The point of a wedding is to formally establish your commitment to one another--not to put on a big show to please the parents and put yourself in debt. Do that when it's more practical.

5. I think the most important thing, though, before you even consider any of the above, is for you to spend more than a couple of weeks together. It's very easy to romanticize/idealize a relationship when you're together for short periods of time. In the early stages, both people are on their best behavior, you really don't get a chance to see what the person is like day to day, the "parting is such sweet sorrow" rule applies, etc. When you spend a considerable amount of time with someone--enough to get a realistic view of what he/she will be like to live with, day in and day out, and after the initial electric romantic feelings fade into loving, committed friendship--then you've allowed yourself to decide whether you LIKE as well as LOVE him/her, and whether you can truly see spending the rest of your life with him/her. Again, everything about someone you fall madly in love with seems endearing in the early days--you need to take a long view not only about your work and your families, but also about the blunt realities of day-in, day-out life together.

6. DON'T PANIC, to quote the old T-shirt. Think things through, both with him and on your own.

Suzanne

P.S. Believe it or not, I'm a romantic idealist at heart. I just hate to see you so overwhelmed, to use your own word, when it's early days. Feel free to send me a PM.


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Re: Jump from Boyfriend to HUSBAND
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2005, 02:17:53 PM »
Dina,
5. I think the most important thing, though, before you even consider any of the above, is for you to spend more than a couple of weeks together. It's very easy to romanticize/idealize a relationship when you're together for short periods of time. In the early stages, both people are on their best behavior, you really don't get a chance to see what the person is like day to day, the "parting is such sweet sorrow" rule applies, etc. When you spend a considerable amount of time with someone--enough to get a realistic view of what he/she will be like to live with, day in and day out, and after the initial electric romantic feelings fade into loving, committed friendship--then you've allowed yourself to decide whether you LIKE as well as LOVE him/her, and whether you can truly see spending the rest of your life with him/her. Again, everything about someone you fall madly in love with seems endearing in the early days--you need to take a long view not only about your work and your families, but also about the blunt realities of day-in, day-out life together.

Suzanne, I couldn't have said it any better myself. There's a huge difference between romantic feelings and actually loving someone, which is probably why so many divorces happen. You really can't know if you love someone after a couple of weeks of being with them. Other sides of their personalities are revealed much later in the game when you've spent a considerable amount of time together, and if anything you don't want to tie yourself down to someone you thought you loved before you really knew them.
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Re: Jump from Boyfriend to HUSBAND
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2005, 11:16:25 PM »
Thank you for responding.

You are right about the time thing, as much as I want to be with him and that we have both agree that we want to be together - there is nothing like giving things time to sort things out., and know each other better
Time will give me time to look more seriously into my job situation
Time will enable me to get some good savings
Time will create options in how we look after his mother and what services are on offer
Time will give us more moments to know one another.
(time will make our love deepen)
 (By the way in my faith i would replace time with God)

Anyway,

What I have been gathering from reading things on this site, I've come to the conclusion that the following seems to be the easiest route to take (that is excluding all the things I am personally dealing with)


That my boyfriend could come to the UK, we get married here (under the fiancee visa), we then stay in the UK for a couple of years (he being allowed to work) and when we decide to move to the US we can move as a married couple and do that other method (sorry can't remember the letters) not the K3 thing, and I would be able to work when we moved.

I'm sorry i must sound so naieve in that paragraph -but have I got the essence of it.what do you think?

If no one replies thats fine I've already received some great advice and learnt a lot in the things I have read around this site (even if it doesn't sound it)



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