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HD NTSC plasma TV
« on: May 14, 2006, 07:18:59 AM »
I would like to know if NTSC TV will work in UK with either   PAL to NTSC standards converter
or Multi-System VCR .
Does anyody out here using NTSC TV in UK ?
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There is not any HD cable or HD Satellite services in the UK yet. The first
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subscription satellite service.  The Sky HD receivers are in very short
supply and only available to those who have pre-ordered.

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To use a NTSC TV in the to watch UK TV broadcasts you will need either a PAL
Freeview digital terrestrial receiver and antenna, a Sky satellite receiver
and dish or use the internal analogue terrestrial receiver in a PAL VCR and
antenna.  These products are available from any electrical store in the UK
and will connect to one of the AV inputs on your TV. Depending on the TVs
capabilities you may also need a PAL to NTSC standards converter connected
between the receiver and the TV.

http://www.avtoolbox.co.uk/standardspage.shtml

You cannot use it to receive UK cable TV or connect receivers or equipment
via the antenna (aerial) input.

If the TV has 110 VDC ( V AC) power input you will in addition need a AC 230V to 110V
AC power converter


















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Re: HD NTSC plasma TV
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2006, 01:07:24 PM »
Most modern U.S. sets would work  from a U.K. satellite receiver or VCR if you can connect direct RGB (Red/Green/Blue) video,  as this completely bypasses the NTSC/PAL color encoding. 

There is a slight difference in the vertical and horizontal scanning rates (50 vs. 60Hz vertical, 15625 vs 15734Hz horizontal), but most newer sets can cope with this (I say "most" because it cannot be guaranteed to be so in all cases).

You would need to check that the SCART connector (big multi-way socket), found on all new U.K. equipment provides RGB outputs, and buy an adapter lead to convert to the RCA jacks used on most modern U.S. TVs. 

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Re: HD NTSC plasma TV
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2006, 01:54:06 PM »
Most modern U.S. sets would work  from a U.K. satellite receiver or VCR if you can connect direct RGB (Red/Green/Blue) video,  as this completely bypasses the NTSC/PAL color encoding. 

What I need to do to get TH-42PX50U PANSONIC working in UK beside Power ?

1) using Mutli-System VCR
2) PAL to NTSC standards converter.
3) a U.K. satellite receiver  using RGB Video

http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/vModelDetail?storeId=15001&catalogId=13401&itemId=93192&cacheProgram=11002&cachePartner=7000000000000005702&surfModel=TH-42PX50U&catGroupId=24973&surfCategory=Plasma%20TVs&displayTab=O
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Re: HD NTSC plasma TV
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2006, 04:26:32 PM »
According to the Technical specifications page, that particular model doesn't have direct RGB inputs. 

It has Y/Cr/Cb component video inputs, but unfortunately you'll have a hard time finding any domestic U.K. VCRs and satellite receivers which offer those outputs.  If you can find one, then you might be able to connect that way.  The set covers multiple scanning rates, so it would probably accept 625/50 video that way.  I'd write or e-mail the company's tech dept. for confirmation though.

S-video and composite video both involve NTSC or PAL encoding, so you wouldn't be able to use those inputs. 

Standards converters to change from 625/50 PAL to 525/60 NTSC would be the only other alternative, but good quality ones are expensive, and the cheaper units often leave much to be desired (as evidenced by even the BBC in the 1980s when Dallas moved from film to video tape and they used some very dubious quality  converters).

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Re: HD NTSC plasma TV
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2006, 05:40:26 PM »
I am putting more information about the TV , please Click on Operating instructions (1559K)   

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Re: HD NTSC plasma TV
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2006, 01:10:33 PM »
The specifications on page 45 of the manual just confirm those on the other webpage.  They list only the regular and high-definition U.S. standards.  That could be because the set will not support anything else, or it could be that the set will actually accept other standards but they are not listed because it is a model sold into the North American market.

I would suggest you contact Panasonic with the model number and ask two specific questions (don't worry about what this all means, they should understand):

1.  Will the set work with 625-line interlaced video (15,625 Hz horizontal, 50Hz vertical scan) on the component (Y/Cr/Cb) inputs?

2.  Will the set accept 625/50 video with 4.43MHz PAL chroma on the composite & S-video inputs? 

There's just a chance that it will decode PAL, maybe even by accessing a hidden menu, so it's worth asking.  More likely it won't though. 

If the answer to #2 happens to be yes, then you can connect to a U.K. VCR, satellite receiver, or DTT box using S-video or composite. 

If the answer to #2 is no, but the answer to #1 is yes, then you would be able to use U.K. signals on the component (Y/Cr/Cb) inputs, if you can find a VCR etc. here with the appropriate outputs.  It's mostly just DVD players with them at the moment.

If the answer to both questions is no, then I'm afraid you're out of luck unless you want to spend a large amount of money on a standards converter.



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Re: HD NTSC plasma TV
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2006, 05:45:07 AM »
Panasonic person told me to buy  digital box , and it will work with my NTSC TV .
see the link below.

http://www.freeview.co.uk/


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Re: HD NTSC plasma TV
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2006, 03:36:43 PM »
Not all "Freeview" boxes offer all combinations of video outputs.  You need to know specifically which, if any, inputs on your TV will accept 625-line video.  Can you copy the reply from Panasonic to me?



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Re: HD NTSC plasma TV
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2006, 05:17:12 PM »
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I just visit the man in panasonic in UK, and he told me to buy any digital box, and it will fine.
Panasonic man was a sale person ..
Sorry I dont have any information either than that
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I'm afraid that the in-store salesmen often have no idea about the more esoteric technical details.   I've contacted Panasonic's tech department with the appropriate questions, so I'll let you know when I get a response.

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Re: HD NTSC plasma TV
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2006, 09:56:31 AM »
O.K., here's what I've found out.  The model in question has no PAL decoder so you won't be able to feed British 625/PAL signals to it via either the composite or S-video inputs.

I cannot obtain confirmation that this model will synchornize to 625-line video applied to the Y/Cr/Cb component inputs either.  It might be the case that it would work that way but Panasonic will not say so as it was not designed for such use and can't be guaranteed that every set will work.    The choice of U.K. satellite receivers, digi-boxes, and VCRs with Y/Cr/Cb outputs is also rather limited compared to those which provide composite, S-video, and/or direct RGB signals, so even if it would work that way you'd have to search for suitable units here. 

All things considered, it would probably be better to leave the set in the States and buy another one here.  If you really want to try to grill Panasonic on the Y/Cr/Cb and 625-line issue, you could try the tech dept. at their New Jersey headquarters --  (800) 211-7262 -- although I'm sure you'll get the same response.


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