Hello
Guest

Sponsored Links


Topic: Exclusive Citizenship Act  (Read 394 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

  • *
  • Posts: 176

  • Liked: 15
  • Joined: Dec 2010
Exclusive Citizenship Act
« on: December 02, 2025, 05:20:27 PM »
Quote
Republican Senator Bernie Moreno of Ohio has introduced a bill to eliminate dual citizenship for Americans.

The "Exclusive Citizenship Act of 2025” would establish that citizens of the United States "shall owe sole and exclusive allegiance to the United States," according to a text of the bill.

https://www.newsweek.com/dual-citizenship-requirements-millions-americans-new-bill-moreno-11139538

This bill would certainly resolve a lot of tax issues for many of us! Not that I think it has any chance of making it into law.


  • *
  • Posts: 4416

  • Liked: 865
  • Joined: Nov 2012
  • Location: Eee, bah gum.
Re: Exclusive Citizenship Act
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2025, 05:58:36 PM »
More questions than answers for me. Would the next step be eliminating SS for non-citizens?

How about private pensions paid to non-citizens?
Dual USC/UKC living in the UK since May 2016


  • *
  • Posts: 176

  • Liked: 15
  • Joined: Dec 2010
Re: Exclusive Citizenship Act
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2025, 06:40:01 PM »
There's a link in the Newsweek article to the text of the proposed bill. It's very short and provides no detail on the implementation. It seems to me that this is just posturing and there's no expectation that this will go anywhere.


  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 575

  • For Dad - 275th Reg., 70th Army Infantry, WWII
  • Liked: 313
  • Joined: Feb 2025
Re: Exclusive Citizenship Act
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2025, 10:53:28 PM »
I had a bit about this in NewsFlash, so I'll copy it to here and then delete it there.


 Legislation just proposed, titled the Exclusive Citizenship Act of 2025, states that “citizens of the United States shall owe sole and exclusive allegiance to the United States.” The text of the bill says that “an individual may not be a citizen or national of the United States while simultaneously possessing any foreign citizenship.” Under the proposal, U.S. citizens who also hold foreign citizenship would be required to renounce their non-U.S. citizenship within one year of enactment or alternatively renounce their American citizenship. Those who do not comply would “be deemed to have voluntarily relinquished United States citizenship.”

The Fourteenth Amendment provides that U.S. citizens cannot lose their citizenship unless they voluntarily relinquish it. Courts have also recognized dual nationality as a longstanding legal status established as far back as 1939 in Perkins v. Elg, and affirmed in The Kawakita v. United States (1952). The landmark Afroyim v. Rusk (1967) held that U.S. citizens cannot be stripped of their citizenship involuntarily, which undercuts the idea that merely holding citizenship elsewhere should nullify U.S. citizenship. As Newsweek previously reported, experts have noted that any law forcing Americans to renounce foreign citizenship could prompt significant legal scrutiny. -  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/melania-trump-could-be-impacted-by-new-citizenship-bill/ar-AA1RzCJR?ocid=socialshare 

I have serious reservations about this having any real chance to pass.  If it did, it'd be hell to implement. It would also pretty much force me to move overseas before the deadline (assuming I could find a way to bring the Daughter with me). Otherwise my options are to split the family across two continents or give up my non-USA citizenship.

If this regime stays in power, I can imagine them doing something to the social security of anyone who renounces, and of any foreign nationals who have accrued SSA benefits in the USA. It fits their M.O.   I can also imagine them charging the equivalent of an exit fee (and probably a steep one) if one does not drop the foreign citizenship.  But I am only side-eying this bit of legislation at present. I don't see it passing, but I've been wrong before.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2025, 11:27:08 PM by OldLady »
'I wish none of this had happened.'
Gandalf: 'So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides that of evil.


  • *
  • Posts: 561

  • Liked: 51
  • Joined: Jan 2012
Re: Exclusive Citizenship Act
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2025, 05:40:39 PM »
Ultimately, I think this could only work with new Naturalisation, or if a U.S. born person wished to become a foreign citizen and hand back his/her U.S. Passport. There must be millions upon millions of U.S/other country citizens through the world and domestically.  It would have devastating repercussions for those not living in a Totalisation country and then loosing SS benefits. Taking SS away from people that rely on that income would cause homelessness in many cases. Also, if Totalisation agreements countries changed we in the U.K would loose SS including Spousal benefit. As a Naturalised U.S. Citizen, I would never voluntarily renounce, as one day laws/agreements could change. Hate to think what would happen if I and my spouse lost SS benefits


  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 575

  • For Dad - 275th Reg., 70th Army Infantry, WWII
  • Liked: 313
  • Joined: Feb 2025
Re: Exclusive Citizenship Act
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2025, 06:09:15 PM »
Yeah, them diddling with SS is one of my major fears.  As a retired person, and while I don't depend entirely on it, it's a major chunk of my income. If I were in the UK or France and they cut off my SS, I'd have no way to replace that income as I have never worked abroad. The impact would be devastating. I know a number of people who have retired to the EU and UK already who are in the same situation. They'd end up homeless.

In my case it would be a matter of timing. If I relocate to France on my dual EU citizenship, it would be to be able to bring my daughter with me as an EU dependent. (I could, of course, retire to France as an American, but she'd have no way to accompany me on that route.)  If we did the EU route to get there and then had to chose between citizenships I don't think I'd renounce, but if they took it away there could hypothetically be grounds for one hell of a court battle. If I wasn't an Irish citizen any longer I'm not sure what would happen to my daughter's status until she got her 5-year permanent residency card. If they took my SS.... Well, lets just hope this bill goes nowhere and is just a bit of grandstanding. I'm assuming there's going to be a pretty strong backlash against it.
'I wish none of this had happened.'
Gandalf: 'So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides that of evil.


  • *
  • Posts: 561

  • Liked: 51
  • Joined: Jan 2012
Re: Exclusive Citizenship Act
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 06:55:26 PM »
I see the bill now has a co-sponsor!
Here is an interesting interview, where the Senator now says that this would only apply to NEW Naturalised Citizens going forward. If you're born in the U.S, it wouldn't apply either.

https://rumble.com/v7320qc-dual-citizenship-coming-to-an-end-us-senator-bernie-moreno.html?e9s=rel_v2_ep


  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 575

  • For Dad - 275th Reg., 70th Army Infantry, WWII
  • Liked: 313
  • Joined: Feb 2025
Re: Exclusive Citizenship Act
« Reply #7 on: Today at 01:41:17 AM »
I see the bill now has a co-sponsor!
Here is an interesting interview, where the Senator now says that this would only apply to NEW Naturalised Citizens going forward. If you're born in the U.S, it wouldn't apply either.

https://rumble.com/v7320qc-dual-citizenship-coming-to-an-end-us-senator-bernie-moreno.html?e9s=rel_v2_ep

Hmmm. Well, the co-sponsor thing doesn't mean a lot, really.  I think I'll have to read the exact text of the proposed bill at some point - ya can never actually trust what a politician says is in the bill to actually be what is written there. ;)
'I wish none of this had happened.'
Gandalf: 'So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides that of evil.


  • *
  • Posts: 4416

  • Liked: 865
  • Joined: Nov 2012
  • Location: Eee, bah gum.
Re: Exclusive Citizenship Act
« Reply #8 on: Today at 08:29:37 AM »
I see the bill now has a co-sponsor!
Here is an interesting interview, where the Senator now says that this would only apply to NEW Naturalised Citizens going forward.

It kinda, sorta used to be like that apparently. When I had my naturalization ceremony it was a small affair of about 12 people and when someone offered to hand over their passport the official explained that the USA does not take the property of another government.  This was in 1998 and when I told that story to a good friend who had moved over from England in 1962 and he and his wife were naturalized in the late 60’s he said they were required to hand over their UK passports as they were no longer citizens having now pledged allegiance to the USA. I told him that the only way to give up his UK citizenship was to formally renounce it in front of a UK consulate official. I also told him that his boys, born in the USA, could apply for a UK passport if they wanted to.
Dual USC/UKC living in the UK since May 2016


Sponsored Links





 

coloured_drab