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Re: Looking for a tax advisor
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2007, 10:30:02 PM »
Thank you garry, that is clearer. Or more clear even. Whichever is correct grammar, pick one. :P

Yer grammer's fine, longin' as you don't use no double negatives or trying to use a preposition to end a sentence with.

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Re: Looking for a tax advisor
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2007, 11:26:39 PM »
garry - it is just so tricky being clear on these kinds of forums!

What I was trying to say was that Arthur Young stopped being called that when they merged with Ernst & Whinney in 1989.

Consequently Malcolm - I believe - would have left Arthur Young in or around 1988 or 1989 so I thought he was long-retired because I had not heard of him for a long while.  If I am wrong on these thoughts (and they are only that) then of course I apologise.
 
In the UK as a whole in the 1980 less than one-third of the population had a college degree (the UK now has approximately two-thirds going on to university so has become more like America in that sense).

The Big Six or Big Eight accounting firms that existed at the end of the 1980s had growing expatriate tax departments of which Arthur Young's - at approximately 50 professional staff was the largest (bigger in numbers than Peat Marwick Mitchell, now KPMG, or Arthur Andersen, now defunct).  However the professional staff in the expatriate tax divisions at these firms were generally speaking no better or worse in qualifications than the UK population as a whole.

Anyone appointing a tax adviser should check the professional credentials as this a key pointer because with the exception of Oregon, California [and Germany], there are no licensing requirements for tax professionals.

A few notes:

US Attorneys and Certified Public Accountants (CPAs) are credentialed to prepare US tax returns. They are licensed by the state in which they practice and are well versed in US tax law.  They may have little knowledge outside their home state.

Enrolled Agents (EAs) must pass an IRS exam to earn their designation. They are federally authorized tax practitioners who are able to represent taxpayers in all states. EAs are the only tax preparer required to exhibit proficiency to the IRS before practicing.  There are many such individuals in the UK including many of us who contribute frequently to this Forum.

Paid Preparers in California must complete a 60-hour course in federal and state tax law and obtain a $5000 bond in order to register with the California Tax Education Council (CTEC). Once registered, they become a CTEC Registered Tax Preparer and are required to complete 20 hours of annual continuing education and maintain their bond. They may have little knowledge outside that state.

Paid Preparers in Oregon must be at least 18 years of age, have a high school degree or equivalent, complete 80 hours of income tax law education, and pass a tax preparer examination. Oregon also requires 30 annual continuing education hours. They may also have little knowledge outside their home state.

Large US Commercial Chains of Tax Preparers: Please be careful when turning to them. It has been reported in recent years that major chains make the majority of errors on tax returns. Ask about how they train their tax preparer, the quality of service you’ll receive, and any guarantees they offer on their work.  If you live outside of the US also find out how familiar they are with double tax treaties.

Unlicensed Tax Preparers: If you choose this route many people would suggest you are increasing your risk because of increased chance of additional taxes, interest, fines and penalties associated with incorrect or incomplete tax returns plus the fact that unlicenced
preparers would not be required to follow the professional code of any professional body.

UK Chartered Tax Advisers/Chartered Accountants/Certified Chartered Accountants:  All must pass tough professional examinations and keep rigourous continuing education as well as follow clear ethical guidelines.  Again, many of us who contribute to this Forum fall in this category.  However just as in the US, many advisers will specialise, so you will want to ask if the adviser you choose is familiar with your kind of issues.

I typically recommend a combination of US and UK qualifications plus experience because that seems to suggest that the adviser will quickly be able to see the big picture and be able to offer creative solutions.  I also always say to ask for credentials - however the bottom line is that tax professionals are in a people business; your adviser may not be the first one you speak with, it may be the second or third etc, because it has to be someone you feel is on your wavelength.

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Re: Looking for a tax advisor
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2007, 10:04:37 AM »
have a meeting with a Certified Financial Planner (CFP) tomorrow. what kind of questions should i be asking? 
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Re: Looking for a tax advisor
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2007, 07:27:08 AM »
1) I am NOT a financial planner.  But, you should look at the tax implications and the long-term effects of any investment.  A CFP is fabulous if you're stateside, but as you're living in England, you also have to consider the English tax implications of your investments.

2)  Have you considered your pension contributions at work?  Often, employers match contributions, making this one of the most efficient investments you'll ever make.  There are certain treaty elements that can be used to your advantage as well.  You should have already discussed this with your dual qualified US/UK tax advisor before going to your CFP.

3)  I assume you are UK resident but US domiciled. As such, any monies you remit to the UK will be taxable.  Be sure that the money you are investing in the US won't be needed here in the UK.  If it will, talk to your US/UK tax advisor about Capital and Income accounts, and have the US/UK tax advisor explain the concept to your CFP (they're likely to have never heard of it before).  Barclay's does a great pamphlet for it's HNW clients explaining C & I accounts.
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Re: Looking for a tax advisor
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2007, 08:10:09 PM »
Bumping this very old topic.

Looking for recommendations for/against any particular advisers, based on your personal experiences.


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Re: Looking for a tax advisor
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2007, 01:37:26 AM »
Bumping this very old topic.

Looking for recommendations for/against any particular advisers, based on your personal experiences.

OK let's get particular. Firstly, I think its important to have a good idea of the questions you want to ask and to have some idea of the answers before you start looking for an advisor. I'd start fairly simply and only go with an advisor you feel comfortable with.

Nicki Reynolds, Tower Tax. I worked with her briefly and was happy with the advice
she gave me. She was forthcoming, patient and I will contact her again when I have more tax issues.

http://www.towertax.com/

Lizzit's company is
http://www.britishamericantax.com/

(she is obviously very knowlegeable)

Others that seem qualified

http://www.david-bishop.co.uk/

http://www.stephenasher.com/

http://www.buzzacott.co.uk/home.asp


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Re: Looking for a tax advisor
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2007, 07:14:35 AM »
I agree 100 % with your comment:

"OK let's get particular. Firstly, I think its important to have a good idea of the questions you want to ask and to have some idea of the answers before you start looking for an advisor. I'd start fairly simply and only go with an advisor you feel comfortable with."

The tax adviser "world" falls into 3 main categories:

1. The Big 4 Firms - they don't see regular tax returns as their core business.

2. Medium sized UK based firms with dual US and UK qualified staff - eg: Frank Hirth & Co, US Tax & Financial Services & Buzzacott - the work will be excellent quality and the firm will be one you know will be there in 6 months, 2 years or whenever.  They will have a good sized team so will be able to answer questions from all angles.

3. Small, often one-person firms such as Lizzit's or Nicki Reynolds.  These firms will give (usually) lower prices because overheads are lower and (as in both of these) run by excellent people but by their nature won't always have the breadth of resources to draw on.  Because they are frequently one-person you'd want to know what would happen if the proprietor is incapacitated or just on vacation.

Other questions you'd want to know is if the firm has the same people handling US and UK tax return preparation and advice.  For some people this will be key.  So Stephen Asher and Lizzit - for example - seem to use separate people to do each set of taxes.

Others amongst us want to be certain that the people we deal with are qualified in tax in both the US and UK.  Given that there are no qualifications required at all in the UK at the moment to open a tax preparation business this - to my mind - should also be something that should be asked each time you hire a tax adviser.

The overall choice is a balance between service, quality, qualifications, price and comfort factor.  There is no right firm for everyone, but get to know and ask 2 or 3 firms and you should soon discover which one you get on with best.


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