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I've been looking for flights home for Christmas and I am at my wits end!  My family is in the US, and my husband's family is in Ireland, so we usually try to visit them both around the holidays.  The problem is that there are no longer ANY flights to Ireland on non-budget airlines, so it is impossible to get a baggage allowance of over 20 kilos for that leg of the journey.  And it's Christmas, so we bring presents, we receive presents, and there are those items available only in our home countries that we have to stock up on for the next year!  So 20 k usually does not do it!  Every year we end up paying ridiculous excess baggage charges which ruin our budget and our mood.  This year I am determined to find a way out!

OK, so one possibility is to take the ferry to Ireland and back-- fairly straightforward, but it adds quite a lot to the journey time and costs a bit more than flying.  It is more reasonably priced if you don't take your car on the boat.  Has anyone tried this with large bags?  Do you have to drag them around with you the whole time, or is there somewhere on the boat to store them?  Also, it is a logistical nightmare using public transport to get to the ferry ports?

An even cheaper method of transport is by coach (and ferry).  You can go from Cork to Manchester for only 30 Euro, but it takes 15 hours and gets in at 5 in the morning.  Anyone ever tried this?  Is it as bad as it sounds?

Then, there is AerLingus.  They have some of the cheapest flights to the US right now anyway, so it should work out perfectly.  And although their baggage allowance between Ireland and the UK is that of a "budget" airline, their website says
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For Aer Lingus journeys between North America and UK/Europe, the baggage allowance for North America flights will apply to the entire journey within two weeks of initial departure date.
  But apparently is is not so simple... First off, you can not book 3 flight segments on one ticket on their website.  I rang them, and apparently the people on the phone can not book this for you either.  So I asked if I book the England-Ireland segment separately, will the US baggage allowance still apply (as I would be flying AerLingus to/from the US within 2 weeks, as their rules state).  They said NO.  Now, I think there is room here to argue my case, but you know how subjective these things can be when you are actually at the airport-- one airline employee might say one thing, and another might say something else, and it is just luck who you get and what kind of mood they are in-- and if there is any possibility that we will have to argue with them on the day and potentially end up paying £5/killo, I'm not sure I'm willing to take the risk.  Has anyone flown a similar itinerary on AerLingus with baggage over 20 kilos?  How did it work out for you?

Finally there is the possibility of putting together my whole trip on a single ticket using Cheaptickets.com or some other search engine that can do complex itineraries with multiple airlines.  The cheapest ticket by this method is flying AerLingus from the UK to the US, American from the US to Ireland, and then AerLingus from Ireland to the UK.  All of the flights would print out on one page (which seems to be what AerLingus requires to give you the US baggage allowance according to my conversation with them), but not all of the flights would be with AerLingus, so I am not sure that they would actually apply the US baggage allowance (although there is 1 transatlantic flight with them, so it would seem legit according to their rules quoted above).  Has anyone bought this sort of ticket before?  Were there baggage hassles?

If you have any other suggestions besides the options I have outlined, I would certainly appreciate your advice!


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We've taken the ferry between Belfast and Stranraer, and they had us check in our large bags just like you would on a plane. In fact, they didn't allow large bags on the boat.


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Re: flying baggage from England to Ireland to US and back without excess fees
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2007, 09:26:19 AM »
would it not be easier to fly directly back to England, dump your bags and then a day or two later hop a cheap flight to Ireland?


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Re: flying baggage from England to Ireland to US and back without excess fees
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2007, 09:29:15 AM »
I send xmas presents home via freight shipping in early November and they always arrive on time for the hols in Calif.. wouldn't that be easier and far cheaper????
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Re: flying baggage from England to Ireland to US and back without excess fees
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2007, 09:34:53 AM »
I send xmas presents home via freight shipping in early November and they always arrive on time for the hols in Calif.. wouldn't that be easier and far cheaper????
Yes I was going to suggest that very thing also!


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Re: flying baggage from England to Ireland to US and back without excess fees
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2007, 11:44:06 AM »
Delta and Continental both fly to Ireland and the UK. I use them all the time and their baggage allowances are quite high. Would those not be an option?


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Re: flying baggage from England to Ireland to US and back without excess fees
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2007, 01:01:38 PM »
Thanks for all your suggestions. 

I'm afraid I'm not as organized as you guys who ship your presents in early Nov-- I haven't even started shopping yet!  But actually the greater problem is the amount that we bring BACK from the US and from Ireland.  In my experience it has always been cheaper to take luggage-- even if you have to pay for extra bags (on non-budget airlines anyway)-- than to ship things.  However, in this case we will not need any extra bags (on non-budget airlines), so theoretically the bags should be FREE.  I don't want to pay any extra either for shipping or excess baggage charges!

The best solution so far seems to be flying UK-US, then US-Ireland, then using SailRail back to the UK.  Do you know about this SailRail?  It may warrant a separate post.  It is a FANTASTIC deal!  You book a train ticket and ferry ticket together from anywhere in the UK to Dublin or another port, and basically your train ticket comes out free (or near to it)!  So for us to take the train from Sheffield to Holyhead and the the ferry to Dublin is £26 each way, whereas if you booked these separately, it would be about £35 for the train + £22 as a foot passenger on the ferry.  It takes a bit longer than driving to Holyhead, but it's a lot cheaper than taking your car on the ferry or parking it at the port.

For anyone who has not bought tickets home for Christmas yet, a lot of sales ended yesterday, so that means (contrary to what you might expect) many of the prices dropped today.  There are some great deals on American right now.  Especially if you fly out of anywhere other than London.  One of the reasons that we do this UK-Ireland-US-UK trip all at once is because it is always cheaper to fly to the US from Ireland than from London, even on flights that go through London!  Now that we are in the North it is the same: flying Manchester-London-New York is about £25 less than taking the exact same London-New York flight minus the Manchester leg!  It's even cheaper to go Cork-London-New York.  So if you can work a trip to Yorkshire or Ireland into your Christmas travel, the savings on the flight might pay for your hotel! 



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