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On USA Social Security Disability; is emigration possible?
« on: April 17, 2015, 11:53:46 PM »
I think my subject line says it all...
I'm in the USA, and on Social Security Disability. Is there any chance at all of someone like me being accepted to live in Scotland? My Disabilty payment follows me wherever I live, and I believe I am allowed to work a limited amount of hours. I am limited, however, to a seated position with no heavy lifting.
Are there other ways to live there without going through full immigration process, such as an extended stay visa?
You're all probably aware by now that I know nothing.... ???


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Re: On USA Social Security Disability; is emigration possible?
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2015, 01:24:31 AM »
I think my subject line says it all...
I'm in the USA, and on Social Security Disability. Is there any chance at all of someone like me being accepted to live in Scotland? My Disabilty payment follows me wherever I live, and I believe I am allowed to work a limited amount of hours. I am limited, however, to a seated position with no heavy lifting.
Are there other ways to live there without going through full immigration process, such as an extended stay visa?
You're all probably aware by now that I know nothing.... ???


Is your spouse a UK citizen or maybe you are? US Social Security Disability can be used as income to meet the financial requirement for a spouse visa.  As you have not said if you have a spouse or your reason for moving to Scotland I can not answer your questions without more information..

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Re: On USA Social Security Disability; is emigration possible?
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2015, 08:40:06 AM »
As Kezzie62 said, you do need to provide more info to get an answer. If your question is simply "can I just come to Scotland to live based on my USA SS Disability income?", then the answer is likely no. If you are British, you can come and go as you wish - you aren't subject to immigration control and you don't need a visa.

Every immigration category is specific to your personal circumstances. For example:

If your spouse is British, you need a visa.
If you have a British fiance, want to marry in the UK and then remain here, yet another visa category.
If your spouse is an EU citizen, other immigration rules apply.

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Re: On USA Social Security Disability; is emigration possible?
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2015, 08:51:39 PM »
Just to say that the US stops all disability payments if you are no longer living in the US. Or at least they have stopped my daughter's who has cystic Fibrosis.
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Re: On USA Social Security Disability; is emigration possible?
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2015, 09:56:39 PM »
First, thanks very much for your patience, each of you.  :)

I'm a US citizen, and I would be making the move by myself as a life change. So, no British, UK, or EU provisions to wonder about. Just little old me to move overseas to my favorite place in the world. So, not easy. Not much demand for a middle-aged, disabled woman there, I imagine.

I had the understanding that SSDI payments continued no matter where the recipient lives, but Mrs Roberts daughter has had a different experience. I'll need to check into that.

I would be able to work a limited amount, no heavy weight lifting, but I do very good office work.

Is there an immigration category for my set of circumstances?






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Re: On USA Social Security Disability; is emigration possible?
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2015, 03:10:27 AM »
Just to say that the US stops all disability payments if you are no longer living in the US. Or at least they have stopped my daughter's who has cystic Fibrosis.

Both myself and my husband are getting SSDI paid to us in the UK as long as you continue to be disabled then you will continue to receive the benefit. 

Your Payments While You Are Outside The United States

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Re: On USA Social Security Disability; is emigration possible?
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2015, 03:21:30 AM »
First, thanks very much for your patience, each of you.  :)

I'm a US citizen, and I would be making the move by myself as a life change. So, no British, UK, or EU provisions to wonder about. Just little old me to move overseas to my favorite place in the world. So, not easy. Not much demand for a middle-aged, disabled woman there, I imagine.

I had the understanding that SSDI payments continued no matter where the recipient lives, but Mrs Roberts daughter has had a different experience. I'll need to check into that.

I would be able to work a limited amount, no heavy weight lifting, but I do very good office work.

Is there an immigration category for my set of circumstances?






Thanks for sharing the info about your situation.  It would be almost impossible for you to get a visa to work in the UK, you would need to find a employer to sponsor you and work visas are only available for certain jobs.  There are other here who know much more than I do about visas other than spouse visa. I am sure if any of them know a way for you to move to UK they will reply soon.

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Re: On USA Social Security Disability; is emigration possible?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2015, 10:24:57 AM »
It's not possible to move to the UK simply because you want to. You must either be moving to join a spouse or dependent child, to take a specific job for a company that is sponsoring you, or to study at an accredited university. The UK has tightened its policies to reduce the number of immigrants and so it's become even more difficult to qualify to move there recently. Unfortunately you would be unlikely to qualify for a visa simply to work and live there.


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Re: On USA Social Security Disability; is emigration possible?
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2015, 07:54:22 PM »
Are either of your parents British?


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Re: On USA Social Security Disability; is emigration possible?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2015, 12:24:11 AM »
Are either of your parents British?


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No...I have some Irish and Welsh from my grandparents.
This move won't be possible.

I imagine I could do some extended stays, though? I would be spending tourist dollars/pounds. I imagine that would be smiled upon.


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Re: On USA Social Security Disability; is emigration possible?
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2015, 02:33:15 AM »
You can visit the UK as a tourist for up to six months out of twelve. But you'll need to be able to show ties to the US, evidence of the funds you will use to pay for your stay, and a round-trip ticket.


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Re: On USA Social Security Disability; is emigration possible?
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2015, 09:46:37 AM »
If you have an Irish grandparent, you might qualify for Irish citizenship, which would let you live in the UK, but they would have to have been actually Irish themselves, not just of Irish ancestry.
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Re: On USA Social Security Disability; is emigration possible?
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2015, 06:37:02 PM »
If you have an Irish grandparent, you might qualify for Irish citizenship, which would let you live in the UK, but they would have to have been actually Irish themselves, not just of Irish ancestry.

She was an O'Gorman, and her parents came from Gorman, County Clare, near The Burren. While on a driving holiday, I stumbled onto the town totally unaware, so it turned into a day spent there.
Her parents moved to Canada late 1800's, and she was born there shortly thereafter.
Does being born in Canada make her of Irish ancestry? I'm feeling awfully dumb lol  ::)


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Re: On USA Social Security Disability; is emigration possible?
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2015, 07:18:17 PM »
She was an O'Gorman, and her parents came from Gorman, County Clare, near The Burren. While on a driving holiday, I stumbled onto the town totally unaware, so it turned into a day spent there.
Her parents moved to Canada late 1800's, and she was born there shortly thereafter.
Does being born in Canada make her of Irish ancestry? I'm feeling awfully dumb lol  ::)

Unfortunately, the only way you would be able to qualify for an Irish passport is if your parent(s) or grandparent(s) were actually born in Ireland, or alternatively, if you had a great-grandparent who was born in Ireland, you would be entitled to Irish Citizenship ONLY if your parent (their grandchild) had registered as an Irish citizen BEFORE you were born.

So,

- If your great-grandparents were born in Ireland, they were Irish citizens

- If your grandmother was born in Canada to those grandparents, she was an Irish citizen

- If your mother/father (their child) was born outside Ireland, they will only be an Irish citizen if they registered their birth in the Foreign Births Register

- In the above scenario, you would only have claim to Irish Citizenship if your mother/father registered as an Irish citizen BEFORE you were born. If they didn't you cannot get an Irish passport

From the Irish government webpages:

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Children born outside Ireland to Irish citizen parents

If either of your parents was an Irish citizen who was born in Ireland, then you are automatically an Irish citizen, irrespective of your place of birth.

Irish citizen parents born outside Ireland

If you were born outside Ireland to an Irish citizen who was himself or herself born outside Ireland, then you are entitled to become an Irish citizen. If your parent derived Irish citizenship in another manner, for example, through marriage, adoption or naturalisation, you can become an Irish citizen.

However before you can claim Irish citizenship, you must have your birth registered in the Foreign Births Register, which is maintained by the Irish Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade - see 'How to apply' below. If you are entitled to register, your Irish citizenship is effective from the date of registration - not from the date when you were born.

If the parent through whom you derive Irish citizenship was deceased at the time of your birth, but would have been an Irish citizen if alive at that time, you are also an Irish citizen. Also, you derive citizenship through an Irish parent whether or not your parents were married to each other at the time of your birth.

Citizenship through descent from Irish grandparents

If one of your grandparents is an Irish citizen who was born in Ireland, but none of your parents was born in Ireland, you may become an Irish citizen. You will need to have your birth registered in the Foreign Births Register.

If you are entitled to register, your Irish citizenship is effective from the date of registration. The Irish citizenship of successive generations may be maintained in this way by each generation ensuring their registration in the Foreign Births Register before the birth of the next generation.

Since 1 July 1986, a person registered in the Foreign Births Entry Book after 1986 is deemed to be an Irish citizen only from the date of his/her entry in the Register and not from the date of birth. This means that children born to that person before his/her date of entry in the Register are not entitled to citizenship.

People registered before July 1986 are deemed Irish citizens either from the date the original Irish Nationality and Citizenship Act came into force, that is, 17 July 1956, or their date of birth, whichever is later. Only children born after 17 July 1956 can claim citizenship in such cases.

Other Irish ancestors

Unless at least one parent or an Irish-born grandparent was an Irish citizen at the time of your birth, you cannot claim Irish citizenship on the basis of extended previous ancestry (that is, ancestors other than your parents or grandparents). In addition, you cannot claim Irish citizenship on the basis that relation such as a cousin, aunt or uncle was an Irish citizen if none of your parents or grandparents was an Irish citizen at the time of your birth.
From: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/irish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent.html


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