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From Kansas to Scotland (hopefully)
« on: June 20, 2010, 06:08:02 PM »
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    So my story is the same as many. I've been to the UK many times, and every time I come home I find more reasons to want to go back and stay for a bit. So I've been searching for ways to help me figure out how to do so, and here I fall on this place.

    Currently, I live in Kansas and utilize a diverse skillset in Information Technology, Online Marketing, along-side an in-depth unique knowledge of antiques & collectibles to also act as a rarities and antiquities dealer here in the States. My goal.....is to figure out how a guy like me can make my way to Scotland (preferably highlands, somewhere near Stirling or Edinburgh area) and know I can make my way there as well as I do here.

    Except with a twist in the equation, is a gorgeous Scottish girl that leaves more of an impression every time I visit who I've known for years. Instead of us jumping into getting married like she suggests (conveniently) for me to find my way over there I think its better if I find my own way over and we maybe live together for awhile before taking that leap.

  So on that note, I'll be eagerly seeking any kind of information, tips, personal experiences of others, just anything that might help this become a reality. While in the process hopefully contributing something beneficial in return.

  If you've read all that spiel and have the patience to lend your own insight to a stranger, I would humbly welcome any type of help or expertise you can offer. I just want to figure out if this is a possibility....I spent all last month there, have only been "home" a couple weeks....and I already miss it (and her) a lot.

Cheers and best regards!
CW
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Re: From Kansas to Scotland (hopefully)
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2010, 06:20:43 PM »
It sounds like you might possibly qualify for a Tier 1 visa.  You can try the points calculator to see if you would.  If not, you could see if there are any companies in the area where you want to move that are looking to hire someone for a position you think you could fill.  The company would need to be on the list of approved Tier 2 sponsors and would have to show that they have advertised the position within the UK and were unable to fill it with a UK or EU citizen.  Failing that, I'm afraid marriage would be your only remaining path.  As we often say on UKY, there is no "let's shack up" visa.

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Re: From Kansas to Scotland (hopefully)
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2010, 08:22:27 AM »
Unless of course you are eligible for citizenship of an EU country:

http://europa.eu/

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/eucitizens/

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Re: From Kansas to Scotland (hopefully)
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2010, 06:56:12 AM »
Thanks for already providing some great direction on getting things figured out. There's a lot involved and I'm still trying to take it all in and figure out how to approach things best. Plus now with this other possibility of the EU country citizenship details. I'm not yet confident I know the best way to start the process?

I've been reading around the forums, and elsewhere around the net. It seems obviously an approved employer sponsorship definitely helps things along a lot quicker. My issue though is that I don't have a college degree, though many applicable hours. I do however though have technical certifications and great references which the points calculator doesn't process and won't allow me to classify in any category but tier 2.

I'm not wealthy though I make a decent living, but I imagine having an employer willing to issue sponsorship is likely my best bet to be approved? I still haven't gathered precisely how long they're issued for, or how difficult renewal would be? So many hoops to jump through, it's going to be interesting making this more than just a possibility and into reality....yikes!

P.S. - Thank you again for the information and the welcomes, any help in this little adventure is obviously greatly appreciated. Cheers! :)
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Re: From Kansas to Scotland (hopefully)
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2010, 08:09:32 AM »
I've been reading around the forums, and elsewhere around the net. It seems obviously an approved employer sponsorship definitely helps things along a lot quicker. My issue though is that I don't have a college degree, though many applicable hours. I do however though have technical certifications and great references which the points calculator doesn't process and won't allow me to classify in any category but tier 2.

Yeah, unfortunately, without a minimum of a bachelors degree, you can't qualify for a Tier 1 - in fact, until just a couple of month ago, you needed a minimum of a masters degree to qualify (they reduced it to a bachelors, but then increased the earnings criteria to a really high amount!).

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I'm not wealthy though I make a decent living, but I imagine having an employer willing to issue sponsorship is likely my best bet to be approved? I still haven't gathered precisely how long they're issued for, or how difficult renewal would be? So many hoops to jump through, it's going to be interesting making this more than just a possibility and into reality....yikes!

Another unfortunately coming up here... Tier 2 sponsorship is unfortunately the most difficult visa to get. The reason? Unless your job/skills are listed on the Tier 2 Jobs Shortage list, before the UK company can sponsor you, they have to prove to the UK government that they have advertised the job in the UK for a certain number of weeks and couldn't find anyone suitable. Then they have to proved they advertised the job across the EU (27 countries and 500 million people in total) and show they couldn't find anyone suitable... then, finally, they can offer you the job. So, in general, unless you have some really specialised skills that very few people across Europe are able to do, you won't easily get Tier 2 sponsorship. Plus the new UK government have plans to restrict the number of people allowed to get Tier 1 and Tier 2 visas.

In terms of how long a Tier 2 Sponsored visa is issued for, that will depend on the company and the length of the job contract. You could only renew the visa if the company is willing to keep you on in the job. If you are made redundant or leave the job, your visa will no longer be valid and you will have to return to the US unless you can find another company to sponsor you for a visa.

To be honest, it would be much, much easier visa-wise for you to go with your girlfriend's suggestion and get married. Almost all fiance/spousal visa applications in the US are approved. If you got a fiance visa, it is valid for 6 months and you must marry and send off the application for a 2-year FLR(M) marriage visa before the 6 months are up. You cannot work on a fiance visa though and you'd have to wait for the FLR(M) visa to come through before you could start work. For a spousal visa, you would need to marry in the US first, then apply for a 27-month spousal visa in the US... once you arrived in the UK, you would be allowed to work immediately without needing a Tier 1 or Tier 2 work visa.


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Re: From Kansas to Scotland (hopefully)
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2010, 10:13:59 AM »
Hello and welcome to UKY. :) You may find that you get more help & answers about visa questions if you post directly into the visas & citizenship board - good luck on your journey. :)
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Re: From Kansas to Scotland (hopefully)
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2010, 01:18:33 PM »
If you happen to have a bit of extra cash or are able to get loans, you could always apply to do a post-graduate degree.

My mate came onto the Napier Advanced Networking course without a BSc, and he was easily accepted due to his work experience. If your experience is similiar, I can't imagine it being too hard to get accepted.  The unfortunate part is that the tuition is around £9,000 for a self-funded US citizen.

The programme takes a year, and you'd be on a student visa which limits your working ability which is why this option only really works if you can afford it or can get a loan from the US.

Edit: This is for Edinburgh; I forgot to mention that originally :)


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