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Potential student visa and undergrad questions!
« on: August 25, 2011, 05:04:07 AM »
I know I have posted before, but I keep coming up with more specific questions!!
I recently made a decision to go to England and attend college for a year, and likely go on to uni and finish a degree. By the time made my decision this summer, it was too late for the visa process and enrollment. I have made a plan to go to the UK in April 2012, for a whole 5-6 months under a potential student visa, then switch and attend school in fall 2012. By the end of the first year of my college, my boyfriend and I are planning on making a decision about the future, so If I were to attend a second year in England, we would be engaged or married by then.

SO......I have a few questions.

As I said, I waited too long, and now cannot enroll for this school year. I am still learning the school system, so forgive me. I have a bad gpa and few decent college credits to my name in the US. The way I see it I am going to England and starting over. I understand I need to attend a college (already picked one) for a year to do my "A levels" and then go on to university. As an undergrad international student, is the only way I can attend uni is to get my A levels done at college in England? Are a foundation year and A levels the same thing? I am trying to speed the process up, as I won't be able to attend college now until fall 2012 and then I wouldnt be in uni until 2013, and finishing my degree around 2015. I was wondering if there are any colleges that start in the winter or even have summer classes. I figure this is a long shot, and I know the college I want to attend only starts students in the fall, but I'm looking for any possible way to start as soon as I can!!!! I've HEARD of people possibly being able to transfer associates degrees(is this true?), and I COULD obtain an associates within the next 6-7 months in the US if I tried really hard, but its not really the route I want to take and it would also take away a significant amount from my moving to England finances.

Has anyone gone over on a potential student visa a full six months before their course began? As most on here, I am trying to get to the UK and be with my boyfriend as soon as possible. Obviously I would be there for six months, unemployed, bored, while trying not to spend any of my savings. How did this work out for anyone who has done this? I know it won't be easy, but my boyfriend and I both know this, and I am saving up until then and he is also going to help me get by until school starts and I can work.

Once I start attending school and start looking for a job, how strict is the employment having to be in the same field as your studies? Say if I were doing A levels or a foundation year(still kind of confused on this) and wanted to study business, could I work at H&M or some retailer? What kind of jobs have people had, and what were you studying? Was it difficult to find a specific job that matched up with your course?

The website of the college I want to attend says international students must fill out the application and schedule a phone interview and then will receive a CAS. A requirement of the potential student visa says you must be in contact with schools, so you can go and do the last steps like seeing the school and interviewing. So if I were applying for potential student visa, but the college didn't necessarily need to interview me in person, would this effect me getting approved for the visa? Could I tell the college I am coming over for an interview, and this would help in obtaining my visa? Even though I am pretty set on the college I would like to attend, should I contact other colleges as well? For the record, the college has not even emailed me back after I emailed them to inquire about international students. My boyfriend has also emailed them asking questions and they emailed him back and gave him very vague answers and it didn't help us much. This college accepts international students and even has a section of the website for them, so why arn't they getting back to me, ughhh!


Thank you for your input and knowledge!


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Re: Potential student visa and undergrad questions!
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2011, 06:35:45 AM »
If you have finished high school, you really shouldn't need to do A-Levels.  I understand you're starting over from scratch, but A-Levels are not really what you need to be doing if you have a high school diploma.  It might be a waste of money and a year to go to college first.  I think it would be worthwhile to at least talk to some universities and see what you need to do about getting accepted.  Generally, courses don't start at any time other than the Fall, so you would have time to get a feel for it, and the prospective student visa is really ideal for that.

You can take on more or less any job as a student as long as it is not filling a full-time permanent roll.  From the UKBA site:

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If you are on a course at or above NQF 6/QCF 6/SCQF 9 at a UK higher education institution, or a short-term study abroad degree programme at an overseas higher education institution, you are allowed to:

    work for up to 20 hours per week during term time;
    work full-time during vacations;
    do a work placement as part of your course;
    work as a postgraduate doctor or dentist on a recognised Foundation Programme;
    work as a student union sabbatical officer for up to 2 years.

If you are on a course below this level at a UK higher education institution, you are allowed to:

    work for up to 10 hours per week during term time;
    work full-time during vacations;
    do a work placement as part of your course; and
    work as a student union sabbatical officer for up to 2 years.

If you are on a course at any level at a publicly funded further education college, you are allowed to

    work for up to 10 hours per week during term time;
    work full-time during vacations;
    do a work placement as part of your course, provided your education provider is a Highly Trusted sponsor or the course is at or above NQF 6/QCF 6/SCQF 9; and
    work as a student union sabbatical officer for up to 2 years.

You can do this work without needing to seek our approval.

You are not allowed to work in the UK if you are on a course at any level with an education provider that is not a UK higher education institution or a publicly funded further education college (unless you are on a short-term study abroad degree programme at an overseas higher education institution).

If you are allowed to work, the work you do must not fill a full-time permanent vacancy (other than on a recognised Foundation Programme), and you must not be self-employed, employed as a doctor in training (except on a recognised Foundation Programme) or as a professional sportsperson, coach or entertainer.

For more information about work placements, see the Your course of study page.

If you are allowed to work, you can work full-time during vacations within the above limits. If you have completed your course and you apply to remain in the UK under the points-based system before your existing permission to stay expires, you can work full-time (within the above limits) until your application is decided.

As far as the college you want to go to, if they aren't getting back to you, I would take that as a sign to look elsewhere.

Hope some of that helps.   :)
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Re: Potential student visa and undergrad questions!
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2011, 06:39:02 AM »
Hey,

I think you're going to be wasting a lot of money on the route that you've chosen. A-levels take two years and you have to study like 3-4 different things. As far as I'm aware you can't specialize in business like you would at uni. Everyone I know with A-levels has them in all sorts of different things. For example, Computing, psychology, etc...

If you have college credits, I don't see why you wouldn't just try to apply into year 1 entry straight away. That's what I'd do.

Foundation year is basically a catch up year. It goes at supposadly the same speed and difficulty as college. You can specialize in the areas you prefer such as science or engineering (at my uni anyways).

If you get an associates degree it doesn't really transfer over well. It was hard enough for me to transfer and all of my uni credits come from English universities. I suppose if you mean start with year 1 instead of going through college and all this then yeah that would make you look better. However that is still costly and you're still starting from the beginning.

Keep in mind, the tuition is going up in 2012 for uk students so the international tuition will probably be going up too.

At my previous uni, foundation year started in either September or January so you can look into that. I don't think you can start an actual degree course in January though.

When you search for employment, it can be in any field you like as long as you don't work over 20 hours (if you're a fulltime student) and I believe you can't work certain jobs or be self employed. Working in retail is no problem. Most student jobs are in retail.

Sorry I don't know anything about the prospective student visa so someone else will have to chime in about that one. Good luck!
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Re: Potential student visa and undergrad questions!
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2011, 07:39:22 AM »
I am trying to speed the process up, as I won't be able to attend college now until fall 2012 and then I wouldnt be in uni until 2013, and finishing my degree around 2015.

UK university degrees are 3 years (or sometimes 4 years), so even if you did A levels or a foundation year, you would still have to spend 3 years at university (because A levels/foundation courses are below degree level). If you started in 2013, you wouldn't graduate until 2016.

My brother actually did everything: 2 years of A levels (age 16-18), then a 1-year Art Foundation course (because he was thinking of studying for a Fine Art degree) (age 18-19) and then 4 years of university (age 19-23).

One of my friends did something similar: 2 years of A levels (age 16-18), a 1-year secretarial/typing course at a college (age 18-19) and then 3 years of university (age 19-22). I did 2 years of A levels (age 16-18) and then 4 years of university (age 18-22).

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I was wondering if there are any colleges that start in the winter or even have summer classes. I figure this is a long shot, and I know the college I want to attend only starts students in the fall, but I'm looking for any possible way to start as soon as I can!!!!

I don't think so - colleges and universities work to the regular academic school year (around September to July), with full-time students enrolling for an entire year at once in September. You wouldn't be able to start mid-year because the courses would all start in September and you would end up missing half a year of the work. Colleges and universities don't work in the same way as in the US, where you register for individual classes when and where you want to... if you apply to study a course in the UK, you have to attend all the classes that are offered, when they are offered, in the order that they are offered (you don't get a choice).

I think the only courses that run mid-year would be the short courses (such as IT classes that run for X weeks at a time) and evening classes.


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Re: Potential student visa and undergrad questions!
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2011, 01:59:19 PM »
Hi Jenny,

I am currently on the prospective student visa-I moved here a few months ago so that I could finally be living in the same country as my boyfriend. As you know on this visa, I cannot work so I am living off of my savings and my boyfriend is paying for rent and food. My boyfriend works full time and he has a big group of friends-guys and their girlfriends-who have all been more than welcoming to me and his family is wonderful. In spite of all this, I am very lonely, and very bored. At home I was really independent and I spent alot of time with my friends and family. Here, I have no choice but to be reliant on my boyfriend and it is REALLY hard. I don't have my own things going on and I won't until school starts in September--I am waiting for my visa and I am expecting it to come soon so I have been applying to jobs, but I haven't received any responses. So i'm pretty sure it will be awhile before I find something. All the girls I have been introduced to are very nice to me but they have all known each other for ages so for now I don't really feel as if I have any of my own friends, and my friends at home don't wake up until its already dinnertime for me! If I had to choice to do it all over again i'm pretty sure I would because I love being with my boyfriend and i'm sorry this has turned into a bit of a tell all-but I just thought you should know. I hope everything goes well for you!


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Re: Potential student visa and undergrad questions!
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2011, 02:08:18 PM »
Hey,

I think you're going to be wasting a lot of money on the route that you've chosen. A-levels take two years and you have to study like 3-4 different things. As far as I'm aware you can't specialize in business like you would at uni. Everyone I know with A-levels has them in all sorts of different things. For example, Computing, psychology, etc...

If you have college credits, I don't see why you wouldn't just try to apply into year 1 entry straight away. That's what I'd do.

Totally agree with this!


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Re: Potential student visa and undergrad questions!
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2011, 03:50:12 PM »
Hi Jenny,

I am currently on the prospective student visa-I moved here a few months ago so that I could finally be living in the same country as my boyfriend. As you know on this visa, I cannot work so I am living off of my savings and my boyfriend is paying for rent and food. My boyfriend works full time and he has a big group of friends-guys and their girlfriends-who have all been more than welcoming to me and his family is wonderful. In spite of all this, I am very lonely, and very bored. At home I was really independent and I spent alot of time with my friends and family. Here, I have no choice but to be reliant on my boyfriend and it is REALLY hard. I don't have my own things going on and I won't until school starts in September--I am waiting for my visa and I am expecting it to come soon so I have been applying to jobs, but I haven't received any responses. So i'm pretty sure it will be awhile before I find something. All the girls I have been introduced to are very nice to me but they have all known each other for ages so for now I don't really feel as if I have any of my own friends, and my friends at home don't wake up until its already dinnertime for me! If I had to choice to do it all over again i'm pretty sure I would because I love being with my boyfriend and i'm sorry this has turned into a bit of a tell all-but I just thought you should know. I hope everything goes well for you!

Hi, I was just wondering how many months did you spend on a potential student visa?


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Re: Potential student visa and undergrad questions!
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2011, 11:07:52 PM »
The max is six months-ive been here since the end of march so not quite the full six months but it was the longest i could afford to live without working!


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Re: Potential student visa and undergrad questions!
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2011, 01:48:13 AM »
The max is six months-ive been here since the end of march so not quite the full six months but it was the longest i could afford to live without working!

Yeah that's what I was thinking too, maybe late spring, say April or May, I'm trying to really save until then. I know I have messaged you before but are you going to college or uni, and is it your first time as a student in the UK?


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Re: Potential student visa and undergrad questions!
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2011, 04:48:49 PM »
Im doing my masters degree, and yep its my first time studying in the uk! On a side note i just started at a new job! It only took 3 weeks since i got my visa! So it is possible to get a job out here :) now i just have to balance school and work!


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Re: Potential student visa and undergrad questions!
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2011, 01:41:10 AM »
Im doing my masters degree, and yep its my first time studying in the uk! On a side note i just started at a new job! It only took 3 weeks since i got my visa! So it is possible to get a job out here :) now i just have to balance school and work!

Congrats, that is great news!!!! I am sure you can balance them. Thanks for giving me hope. I am not sure of specifics in my situation, but I think I may only be able to work 10 hrs a week, which would be strange, I am used to working 30-40 hrs a week, but I would take anything that will help me contribute.

I am really happy to hear things are working out for you!


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