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Moving marketing undergraduate
« on: March 15, 2012, 02:08:26 AM »
Hi my name is Xavier, I've been looking for a lot of hours info and have gotten nowhere so I'm hoping I can get some help from this.

I am 23 years old, American, I'm a 3rd year marketing student with 12 classes to finish my degree. I want to fulfill my dream of moving to the UK as soon as I finish my degree. although I have considered moving now and finishing through Open University or Phoenix.

I am willing to do any type of job as long as it permits me staying in the UK, until I get an "ideal" job. I'm also fluent in spanish don't know if this helps.

Please help me out! I really want to do this! Where do I go!? What do I need?! there is no UK consulate near me so they can help me sadly.

 :-[ help meee
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Re: Moving marketing undergraduate
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2012, 03:40:58 AM »
Hi my name is Xavier, I've been looking for a lot of hours info and have gotten nowhere so I'm hoping I can get some help from this.

I am 23 years old, American, I'm a 3rd year marketing student with 12 classes to finish my degree. I want to fulfill my dream of moving to the UK as soon as I finish my degree. although I have considered moving now and finishing through Open University or Phoenix.

I am willing to do any type of job as long as it permits me staying in the UK, until I get an "ideal" job. I'm also fluent in spanish don't know if this helps.

Please help me out! I really want to do this! Where do I go!? What do I need?! there is no UK consulate near me so they can help me sadly.

 :-[ help meee

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Sadly there's no visa to just up and move to the UK.

Work visas aren't easy to come by either. I'm not up to snuff on them, so someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Have you considered studying at a UK university? Perhaps doing a Master's degree? Though definitely not cheap, this might be your only option.
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Re: Moving marketing undergraduate
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2012, 08:00:33 AM »
Could you do a study abroad semester?  I know you said you are close to graduating, but it would be cheaper to do a semester abroad than to try to chuck everything and basically start over with your courses.

Because moving to the UK and starting with the OU would mean that many of your courses wouldn't count.  In fact, I'm not even sure they do marketing.  They have business degrees and management, but I'm not seeing anything that would lead to a full on marketing degree.


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Re: Moving marketing undergraduate
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2012, 03:44:46 PM »
Welcome to UKY!

Sadly there's no visa to just up and move to the UK.

Work visas aren't easy to come by either. I'm not up to snuff on them, so someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Have you considered studying at a UK university? Perhaps doing a Master's degree? Though definitely not cheap, this might be your only option.

Well, I could do few of my last courses in the UK, but the only way I'd be able to do this is, if I have a job in the UK, cause I wouldn't be able to afford. Would they allow this?
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Re: Moving marketing undergraduate
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2012, 03:46:19 PM »
Could you do a study abroad semester?  I know you said you are close to graduating, but it would be cheaper to do a semester abroad than to try to chuck everything and basically start over with your courses.

Because moving to the UK and starting with the OU would mean that many of your courses wouldn't count.  In fact, I'm not even sure they do marketing.  They have business degrees and management, but I'm not seeing anything that would lead to a full on marketing degree.

I am thinking of emailing OU see what they can do for me. another option I found, was about the federal jobs in the UK, like USAA federal jobs there are quite a handful and I am qualified for, if I get this, It could open the door for me to move to the Uk permanently yes?
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Re: Moving marketing undergraduate
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2012, 03:49:23 PM »
You could work part time on a Tier 4 student visa, but you would need to show that you have all the funds for tuition and maintenance as a condition of the visa.  Plus, you need to be accepted to a UK university, so distance learning, University of Phoenix, etc, is wouldn't be allowed.
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Re: Moving marketing undergraduate
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2012, 05:30:10 PM »
if I get this, It could open the door for me to move to the Uk permanently yes?

The thing is that there are youth *everywhere* including Asia, Africa, the sub continent, Eastern Europe who have it in mind to get here and settle.  In these types of situations where someone just starting out in their adult life wants to resettle in the UK, the forum is most useful when you enumerate your connections to the UK and work forward from there.  'Connections' is used here to mean things like family, cultural affinity, education and formative years, heritage, economic ties, and stuff like that.  List those out and people will be in a better position to help.


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Re: Moving marketing undergraduate
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2012, 05:48:20 PM »
The problem is most of your credits won't transfer.  So you won't just be able to finish up your remaining credits.

You would need a work permit to get a job in the UK, and many government type jobs are for citizens only. 

Given the opinion of the population on immigration there is no way on God's green Earth the government is going to grant a visa for someone to come over and work for an entry level position in the government. 


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Re: Moving marketing undergraduate
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2012, 06:02:16 PM »
Given the opinion of the population on immigration there is no way on God's green Earth the government is going to grant a visa for someone to come over and work for an entry level position in the government. 

Plus, a lot of UK government agencies require their employees to be UK citizens, or to at least hold ILR and have lived in the UK for the last 5 years.


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Re: Moving marketing undergraduate
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2012, 02:14:17 AM »
You can get federal financial aid to study abroad.  Go to the FAFSA page and under "state", it gives you an option to select "foreign country".  The results are the schools that accept FAFSA funds. 

https://fafsa.ed.gov/FAFSA/app/schoolSearch?locale=en_EN
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Re: Moving marketing undergraduate
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2012, 01:16:18 PM »
Unfortunately, even if you were to come here and study at a UK university, it's very difficult to stay here once you finish your studies. I'm sure someone else has more information on exactly why this is, but I've known a lot of American students in Edinburgh, and a few years ago several of them were able to stay and work after graduation, but recently, due to some immigration changes, none of them have been able to stay and work. All but two have had to move back to the US. One is now engaged to a UK citizen, and the other was fortunate enough to be asked to be a lecturer, but I know the latter is a very rare case.

The best advice would be to do a semester or two in a study abroad programme, or once you complete your degree, a master's degree programme. You only have a year left, so there's no point in trying to transfer to a UK university now. Your credits won't transfer into the OU, and you can't move to the UK on a student visa while doing distance learning with the OU. If you study here, you'll have a chance to live here for a while and find out if it's where you really want to be. You could then explore certain career paths where international assignments are normal. The oil industry is a good place to look. However, it can take years with a job to be eligible for international relocations. You won't be able to do that with an entry-level job. The only people I know who worked abroad right after graduation went to Asia to each English or entered the Peace Corps.


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Re: Moving marketing undergraduate
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2012, 09:56:15 AM »
Unfortunately, even if you were to come here and study at a UK university, it's very difficult to stay here once you finish your studies. I'm sure someone else has more information on exactly why this is, but I've known a lot of American students in Edinburgh, and a few years ago several of them were able to stay and work after graduation, but recently, due to some immigration changes, none of them have been able to stay and work. All but two have had to move back to the US. One is now engaged to a UK citizen, and the other was fortunate enough to be asked to be a lecturer, but I know the latter is a very rare case.

That's because the Post-Study Work Visa (which is discontinuing this April) is only valid for two years. After that, you must find another way to stay in the country, and that's often difficult. Getting engaged or married is one way to do so, and getting sponsored by a company or organization is another (the university lecturer is a good example of this).

I looked into moving abroad after college for a long time. Getting my Master's is how I have accomplished that. The other options I looked into mainly involved working in the US for a few years at the least, saving money and getting a fairly good wage, then applying for a work permit, but I don't know if that's an option anymore with the recent changes, and it's not a very quick solution.

My MA was expensive, but I got complete support from US Federal Student Loans, which I'm now slowly starting to pay back (ugh!). However, I don't know if I'll be able to stay long-term if I want to. Years spent on a Post-Study Work Visa (which I'm waiting for now) do not count towards your years working toward citizenship or any other residency status, if I'm correct. Plus, as I mentioned, the PSW Visa will not be an option after April 5th, 2012, so would not be available to you unless they bring it back while you're over here (not very likely in my view, although I think it's a mistake).

My friend was working in the US at an international marketing firm for about a year, and just now got transferred to their London office since she is fluent in Mandarin and can work with Chinese clients here. I'm pretty sure this is a case of her company sponsoring her, and they can justify doing so since fluent Mandarin is probably something a bit more difficult to find in marketing professionals.

My last advice: If you're into government stuff, look into the Foreign Service. The FS staffs American embassies across the world. I thought about doing it, but I don't really think you get a choice where to live and I was set on England because of a boyfriend. My friend's grandparents met in the foreign service and travelled the world together. They say it was always an adventure. Here's the website: http://careers.state.gov/officer

Good luck with everything!


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Re: Moving marketing undergraduate
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2012, 03:07:34 PM »
To understand marketing jobs in the UK and look at postgraduate options, this may help:
http://www.prospects.ac.uk/industries_advertising_overview.htm

You may also want to look at Masters in Translation if you are fluent in Spanish. The above link will allow you to search postgraduate options.

Does your university offer any student exchange schemes, as mentioned previously?

What about an internship?
http://www.bunac.org/usa/interninbritain/

Or thinking a little further away, what about a working holiday in Ireland?
http://www.dfa.ie/home/index.aspx?id=80991

Hope you find a path that works for you!  :)


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