2012 US Taxes Filing from UK (with UK Income)

Where do I write my final number from form 2555ez on the 1040x?

Well...I think I got it after sitting down and really working through it. Hope it works.

Anyone know if I'll still have a pay the late fee for filing late? I didn't realize I needed to file and just filed as soon as I realized.

Well...I think I got it after sitting down and really working through it. Hope it works.

Anyone know if I'll still have a pay the late fee for filing late? I didn't realize I needed to file and just filed as soon as I realized.

Here are the IRS late fees description

http://www.irs.gov/uac/Newsroom/Eight-Facts-on-Late-Filing-and-Late-Payment-Penalties

Here are the IRS late fees description

http://www.irs.gov/uac/Newsroom/Eight-Facts-on-Late-Filing-and-Late-Payment-Penalties

So it looks like I won't have anything then as I equalled 0 on amount owed? Sorry really new to taxes. Ended up filing a 2555EZ with the 1040X.



Had a play with turbo tax last night for 2013. Says my son, and step kids aren't able to qualify as dependents because it asks if they're US citizens which they're not (my son isn't yet, but will be). I didn't think that mattered as long as they had ITINs (which I will be applying for for them)? Also to get the form 2555 on there you have to upgrade to the basic version which costs $14.99 ($19.99 normally, but they offer you a discount) when you file. Seemed pretty easy though.

Says my son, and step kids aren't able to qualify as dependents because it asks if they're US citizens which they're not (my son isn't yet, but will be).

And as I said above, your son IS a US citizen. It's just that you don't have the official paperwork confirming it yet - so you will need to get his SSN before you can claim him on your taxes.

What makes him a US citizen is his blood and his DNA, not his passport or SSN (I have a SSN and I'm not a US citizen)... you are a US citizen, therefore he is a US citizen - it doesn't matter that he was born in the UK, he's still a US citizen - but you need to report his birth to the US Embassy so they have a record of him being a US citizen.

He won't be able to get an ITIN, because ITINs are only for people who are not eligible for a SSN. Your son is eligible for a SSN, it's just that you just haven't applied for it yet. His SSN will take about 6-8 weeks to arrive after the embassy appointment, and the ITIN applications can take 6 weeks to be processed.

If he was born in the US, his birth would already be reported to the government and you would already have his SSN - it's no different in the UK... he's still a US citizen, but you just haven't reported his birth to the US government or got his SSN yet.

So, when it asks you whether your kids are US citizens your answer should be that one is a US citizen (so you need to get his SSN first before you do the taxes) and two aren't US citizens (so if you want to claim them you need ITINs for them before you do the taxes).

And as I said above, your son IS a US citizen. It's just that you don't have the official paperwork confirming it yet - so you will need to get his SSN before you can claim him on your taxes.

What makes him a US citizen is his blood and his DNA, not his passport or SSN (I have a SSN and I'm not a US citizen)... you are a US citizen, therefore he is a US citizen - it doesn't matter that he was born in the UK, he's still a US citizen - but you need to report his birth to the US Embassy so they have a record of him being a US citizen.

He won't be able to get an ITIN, because ITINs are only for people who are not eligible for a SSN. Your son is eligible for a SSN, it's just that you just haven't applied for it yet. His SSN will take about 6-8 weeks to arrive after the embassy appointment, and the ITIN applications can take 6 weeks to be processed.

If he was born in the US, his birth would already be reported to the government and you would already have his SSN - it's no different in the UK... he's still a US citizen, but you just haven't reported his birth to the US government or got his SSN yet.

So, when it asks you whether your kids are US citizens your answer should be that one is a US citizen (so you need to get his SSN first before you do the taxes) and two aren't US citizens (so if you want to claim them you need ITINs for them before you do the taxes).

Yea I know that. I was just saying that turbo tax doesn't recognize that yet. I know he's a US citizen, just not officially because he hasn't been reported to the US government yet. I also realize he's not eligible for a ITIN because "he has a claim to US citizenship." He's not a us citizen because he's not registered as one. His application will be accepted if put in because like you said, it's in his blood because of me. It's just a formality and a way of the US government to get some extra revenue in. He's not a US citizen, he has a claim to it, and needs to apply for it. He is British by all accounts, and not a dual citizen until he is granted an approval on his claim for citizenship. I know everything about his claim to citizenship and arguing over this really doesn't help on what the original statement. I was just saying that on turbo tax it doesn't have any options for non us citizens hence what I was saying about the ITINs. I think in order to get them "eligible" on the turbo tax system I'd have to put them through as US citizens in order to be able to put their ITINs in.

Sounds like you are due a good size refund if you get SSNs for US citizen dependents, claim foreign tax credits and then get refundable child credits each year from the IRS.  This is good money and to my mind worth the effort.

Right, so looking into this, you can't get a refund if you file a 2555, even if you had ITINs or SSNs for dependents? Or is this only for US citizens? Any extra info?