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UK Taxes, 101
« on: January 21, 2014, 09:37:05 AM »
Hello everyone,

Please forgive the very basic nature of this question, but I have not found anything in the forum or in my Google searches to help me.

I am a new expat (arrived a year ago) sponsored under a Tier 2 ICT visa. I have noticed billboards all over London about the self-assessment, and am unsure what kind of filing I am required to do here. My company provides me no tax assistance whatsoever.

Could someone please give me - and others in my position - a very basic explanation or checklist of our tax responsibilities as expats in the UK? Do we need to file the self-assessment? What about PAYE?

I hope others out there find this question and anticipated responses useful. Thank you all for your help.


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Re: UK Taxes, 101
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2014, 09:51:07 AM »
Here is a useful starting point: http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/cnr/rdr1.pdf

If you pay taxes through PAYE you may not need to file a Self Assessment return but check the HMRC guidance: http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/sa/need-tax-return.htm

If in doubt you can always call HMRC, lay out your circumstances and ask someone to explain in broad terms what is required. I have found them extremely patient and helpful in the past.

This does not replace professional advice but if you have straightforward tax affairs you may find it answers your questions.


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Re: UK Taxes, 101
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2014, 09:55:30 AM »
Someone else should be able to answer more fully, but if you are on PAYE (your tax is taken out of your monthly pay cheque), and you have no other income or assets, you shouldn't need to do anything regarding taxes (your company may not provide tax assistance simply because it is not required).

I'm a UK citizen, I've been paying tax through PAYE for 12 years, and I've never filed UK taxes in my life.

If you were self-employed, or had more than one job, or had various different assets /income sources/large savings etc. you would probably need to file a self-assessment return of some description.

As US citizens, you do need to file US taxes every year, even if you are not living or working in the US.
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Re: UK Taxes, 101
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2014, 01:02:31 PM »
...more fully


1. You need to know enough to tell HMRC if there is a liability or if they have taken too much tax, so although you may not have to file, in order to comply you have to compute your tax liability (although you never report your conclusions). HMRC have been told to be soft on people who ask for explanations, but hard on people who don't declare.

2. If there is a liability or reclaim you request a Tax Return to file, which can be a short form.

>What about PAYE?
3. This is just a payment on account. HMRC don't say it is accurate, although if there is just one employment in the year PAYE will be good enough.

4. In the UK, people seem to value a simple life more than 300-500 reclaim in tax, and so generally don't make claims against PAYE income that they could. They also tend to ignore gains tax, accrued income scheme, pension relief, don't correct the tax position on a change of job, imagine that basic rate deduction on bank interest covers it, and hope that the employer deals with any complication from moving expenses, share options, FURBS etc. Broadly, they ignore the requirement to self assess and rely upon HMRC to tell them they must fill in a form, but never check HMRC's computations (at last internal survey that I have, 17% of these were wrong). However, it works in a painful kind of way.
 
The tax years in which you arrive in the UK, or change job, or leave the UK are those most likely to throw up a tax reclaim / liability, assuming your annual UK source income is below 40k. Above 50k, most years will need to be filed.

So at the very least, gather your p60 at the year end, plus p11d,  plus moving expenses paid for you, plus interest earned in the UK and use one of the online calculators to check whether you have a tax reclaim. You'll need these figures any for your 10-40.

[Some firms including ours will do the above for no charge, and let you know if it is worth your while for the firm to file a UK return.]


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Re: UK Taxes, 101
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2014, 04:30:44 PM »
Hmmmm I have a question.....

I worked for just over 3 weeks with royal mail in December.  I gave them my NiNo before I started.  I had no taxes taken out of my paychecks, I assume this was because as it was my first job and I would not make enough to be taxed before the end of the tax year.  They did take out for NI.  Do I need to file anything?


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Re: UK Taxes, 101
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2014, 08:56:26 PM »
Hello everyone,

Please forgive the very basic nature of this question, but I have not found anything in the forum or in my Google searches to help me.

I am a new expat (arrived a year ago) sponsored under a Tier 2 ICT visa. I have noticed billboards all over London about the self-assessment, and am unsure what kind of filing I am required to do here. My company provides me no tax assistance whatsoever.


Unless you have assets in the US you probably won't need to do a self assessment. Income tax will be withheld via PAYE and tax on savings accounts will be withheld at source.

You must still file your US taxes.


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