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The new UK dividend tax regime and US dividends
« on: March 22, 2016, 02:24:25 PM »
I have just had an interesting phone conversation with an HMRC tax advisor about a wrinkle in the new dividend tax regime from April 6, 2016, as regards the application of foreign tax credits. This is somewhat an esoteric post - but I thought it might interest experts.

In the new regime, dividends have a  £5,000 nil rate band and above that are taxed 32.5% for the higher rate tax payer. I could not find any advice on the HMRC web pages as regards "how does the new regime work with US dividends on which one has paid a 15% withholding tax?" It used to be easy, in that £90 US dividends were grossed up to £100, creating £32.50 tax, minus 10% tax credit (£10) and US foreign tax credit (£13.50), leaving £9 UK tax owing.

But under the new regime, suppose one had £6,000 UK and £1,000 US dividends. Apparently it will work like this: the key idea is that the nil rate band will be used first for UK dividends, preceding any foreign dividends. Doing this to the £(6,000-5,000), creates UK tax of 32.5% of £1,000 UK div (£325), and 32.5% of £1,000 US div (£325). From this we can subtract the 15% US tax (£150) to arrive a UK dividends tax bill of £500.

If one had £4,000 UK and £2,000 US, then only £1,000 US div would be UK taxable, for a bill of £325. But only half of the US tax paid could be used as a foreign tax credit, so 325-150 = 175 would be left owing to the UK.

In the above example, the US tax payer can owe 15% of £6,000 = £900 (on qualified dividends). The UK tax of £175 can be claimed as a tax credit on Form 1116, but will fall a long ways short of reducing the US tax liability to 0.
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Re: The new UK dividend tax regime and US dividends
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2016, 05:46:46 PM »
Nice post.


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Re: The new UK dividend tax regime and US dividends
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2016, 07:57:15 PM »
Nice post.

+1

Always good when folks share real time experiences and/or conversations with the tax authorities.
Dual USC/UKC living in the UK since May 2016


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