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I don't mind schooling, I like opening my mind however, when you have to pay back the loans, that's when you have to open your wallet.  That being said, I already have a Grad degree.  Would they go for a person getting another one?

If you have the money to pay for it, sure (for a 1-year masters degree, you'd need about £25,000-30,000 available to you for tuition and living costs) .

You may find that a Tier 4 student visa ends up being your only option to move to the UK because Tier 2 work visa can be extremely difficult to qualify for.

Unless the job is listed on the Tier 2 Skills Shortage list, the UK company has to prove they could not find a single suitable candidate in the UK or any of the other 26 EU countries before they will be allowed to hire you (known as the Resident Labour Market Test - RLMT).

With 500 million people in the EU, and unemployment still relatively high, the job would have to be very highly skilled or specialised in order for there not to be anyone else qualified for the job.

However, if you have a degree from a UK university, the UK company can hire you without needing to complete the RLMT first.

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I don't mind schooling, I like opening my mind however, when you have to pay back the loans, that's when you have to open your wallet.  That being said, I already have a Grad degree.  Would they go for a person getting another one?

What I can say is higher education still isn't cheap, but it's MUCH cheaper than the US!**  I wish I had just applied to go to uni over here! lol I don't see why you couldn't go for a second grad degree but using it just to come over here - in that case - probably isn't worth it lol the idea of one graduate course is making me stressed! Forget about two! Lol

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However, if you have a degree from a UK university, the UK company can hire you without needing to complete the RLMT first.

Exactly this! This is why I was suggesting student visa (before seeing you already had degrees)


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What I can say is higher education still isn't cheap, but it's MUCH cheaper than the US!**  I wish I had just applied to go to uni over here! lol I don't see why you couldn't go for a second grad degree but using it just to come over here - in that case - probably isn't worth it lol the idea of one graduate course is making me stressed! Forget about two! Lol

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Tell me about it,

And you're right about the cost of education in the States.  While I do miss the late nights and the coming home picking up a pizza every now and then, I don't think I'll get another degree. 

Well, there's always that millionaire thing someone mentioned, I guess I'll have to play the lotto or something LOL.

Tell me about it,

And you're right about the cost of education in the States.  While I do miss the late nights and the coming home picking up a pizza every now and then, I don't think I'll get another degree. 

Well, there's always that millionaire thing someone mentioned, I guess I'll have to play the lotto or something LOL.

I'd prefer just getting a late night pizza with no classroom strings attached! LOL


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I lived in Japan for over a year, and don't speak Japanese. I also lived in the Czech Republic and Azerbaijan without speaking Czech, Azeri, or Russian. Obviously, you pick up some words and phrases just by living in a place, and it's possible to find classes or language exchanges if you really want to learn the language. Definitely something to think about if you just want the experience of living outside the US. The UK is not a great place to be an immigrant right now, TBH, and visa prospects are grim.

If you're under 30 you might look into a working holiday visa to Australia or (I think) New Zealand. Those visas are only for a year, but again, experience, and maybe once you've been abroad for a while you'll run into some other opportunities.

I lived in Japan for over a year, and don't speak Japanese. I also lived in the Czech Republic and Azerbaijan without speaking Czech, Azeri, or Russian. Obviously, you pick up some words and phrases just by living in a place, and it's possible to find classes or language exchanges if you really want to learn the language. Definitely something to think about if you just want the experience of living outside the US. The UK is not a great place to be an immigrant right now, TBH, and visa prospects are grim.

If you're under 30 you might look into a working holiday visa to Australia or (I think) New Zealand. Those visas are only for a year, but again, experience, and maybe once you've been abroad for a while you'll run into some other opportunities.

I'm over 30, I'm in my 40s truthfully.  Are things difficult because of the resent goings on? 

To be totally fair, it's sort of *unfair* because -at least in my experience - it's not that hard to be an immigrant if you're American. Yes, you catch some flack and get teased about about the president, but there's not really *hostility* like if you're coming from elsewhere. It's like there's a "ugh immigrants!! ....but not you. You don't count." Thing that happens (which I hate because it isn't right). So in that particular sense it's not an issue.

Didn't even think about Australia/New Zealand but those are good ideas too. I just always thought visa qualifications were super strict.


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What I can say is higher education still isn't cheap, but it's MUCH cheaper than the US!**  I wish I had just applied to go to uni over here! lol I don't see why you couldn't go for a second grad degree but using it just to come over here - in that case - probably isn't worth it lol the idea of one graduate course is making me stressed! Forget about two! Lol

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I know you said it's based on what you looked at but both my degrees in the US cost a small fraction of the cost of UK degrees (I did stay in-state).  And they've done very well for me.   

I know you said it's based on what you looked at but both my degrees in the US cost a small fraction of the cost of UK degrees (I did stay in-state).  And they've done very well for me.   

Yeah it's definitely based on personal experience as I didn't go to a state school (regretting it now). I went to a private university that I really regret going to now because I'll be paying it off for the next over a decade! And I dropped out in my 4th year because I honestly hated it so much and I had already met my husband and was planning on getting married so didn't want to stick around somewhere I couldn't stand longer (and it didn't even end up being a problem once moving lol). But when I saw the cost of uni here once I moved and was looking to make up some credits, I was like "I should've done this from the start..."

I think it also depends on the state in which you are looking at going to state school in the US as I know there are some that were more expensive than others (the quality is the same, but I think maybe it's to do with different "costs of living" in different states?)

I'm thinking working for an international firm so I can get a Visa that way?

It depends if they want to move you to their UK office for a while and if they can prove that they couldn't find anyone new to do that job. But the UK will no longer allow these visa holders to settle in the UK and they must leave when their visa ends or if their sponsor no longer wants them. They must now be highly skilled to get this Tier 2 Intra-comapany Transfer visa.

You would need to have worked for that company for at least 12 months and be paid at least £41,500 in the UK to qualify. If you would be paid more than £73,900 in the UK, then there is no 12 month requirement.

The maximum you could stay is 5 years 1 month if you are paid less than £120,000 a year, or 9 years maximum if you are paid over £120,000 a year.

https://www.gov.uk/tier-2-intracompany-transfer-worker-visa

Everybody I know that has gone to teach English in non-English speaking countries (like My Japan example) was not fluent (or even relatively close) to speaking Japanese. You don't need to speak Japanese to go there and teach. I've not been there myself but we're planning a trip next year and I'm told it's not difficult to communicate at all of you don't speak Japanese at all. You might find  a lot of other "non-English" speaking countries are actually not too hard to navigate as an English speaker. It might be worth looking into as it will expand your options for moving somewhere new.

Not to backtrack the discussion, but after I finished college I taught English in Japan (as did my sister, and one of my friends went to South Korea). The only Japanese I knew before going was stuff like "I am American", "Do you speak English?", "I don't understand", and "Where is the train station?"  I got by just fine most of the time with only the basics! It was a great experience.

Not to backtrack the discussion, but after I finished college I taught English in Japan (as did my sister, and one of my friends went to South Korea). The only Japanese I knew before going was stuff like "I am American", "Do you speak English?", "I don't understand", and "Where is the train station?"  I got by just fine most of the time with only the basics! It was a great experience.

Everyone I've spoken to has said the same thing about getting by fine most of the time (even those that weren't teaching and were just doing some travelling). The only time they ever  had issues was in very remote areas that are off the beaten path. They told me I had to get pretty far off the beaten path to have trouble. If they couldn't find somebody that could speak even just enough English, charades worked. I'm basing it all off second hand experience from a number of people I've spoken to, so unfortunately I can't vouch one way or another but I do trust these people.

I like to think about it in terms of it likely being obvious that I am not Japanese myself. Even if I was and could speak fluent Japanese, I do not appear that way outwardly so they may expect I'll have trouble and so anything I can say might be a but of a bonus. I think it's harder when I visit other countries in Europe for people to guess whether I am a native speaker to their language or not before I open my mouth.