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What happens to points when you don't have a license (yet)?
« on: November 28, 2004, 07:23:13 PM »
My husband received two points for a speeding violation.  We are still within the time period for our US license (to let us drive legally here).

The Magistrate said nothing about this and he wanted to get the hell out of there.

Have points, no license - now what?



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Re: What happens to points when you don't have a license (yet)?
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2004, 08:35:26 AM »
There's a thread on here somewhere...I just can't find it!   :-\\\\

I vaguely remember someone complaining about having to pay an exorbitant fine for a violation whilst on their US license.  If that holds true, your DH will likely have to pay a lot, but I don't think his chances of getting a UK license will be affected.  Anybody know for sure?


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Re: What happens to points when you don't have a license (yet)?
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2004, 04:15:50 PM »
I can't recall a thread that covers exactly this question and I don't know the answer which is why I didn't jump in when it was posted ... but it's been up a while now an no=one has come up with anything.

The other thread mentioned a heavy fine as points weren't going to be applied, I think. I'm not sure whether Muse's husband will "get away with" the points or have them applied to his first UK license when he gets it.   The DVLA site doesn't answer the question as far as I can see!   One of the things it does say is that once you get 12 points, you're disqualified but if you get 6 points before you've held a full UK license for 2 years you're also disqualified and have to retake your test.  In other words - if the points are applied, he's already 1/3 rather than 1/6 of the way to a need to retake.
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Re: What happens to points when you don't have a license (yet)?
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2004, 07:31:36 PM »
I got a ticket while still on my Florida license...well actually I was over the time limit...anyhow...

When I got the summons or whatever they call it - I plead guilty (I went the wrong way on a one way street - long story but I was lost and got chased by two policemen on foot for a bit.... ::) )

Anyway...I sent off the paperwork with a certified copy (got a "certified as a true copy of the original" by Lloyds TSB) of my Florida license.  The summons said to send my driving license with the paperwork.  I sent the certified copy with a note saying I was going to Florida in two weeks and needed my license and plus I didn't want the original out of my possession as I couldn't replace it here.

SO...I get the information back with the fine - £95 and it stated penalty points assessed.  I got my UK license this February and there are no points on my license.

So I think the answer is "it depends"....
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Re: What happens to points when you don't have a license (yet)?
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2004, 07:38:38 AM »
This has nothing to do with the subject other than a correlation coming to mind. I was a visitor here when I got a really bad earache. I went in to the local surgery, and although they treated me, no question, they didn't quite know how to charge me. "Uhhh, let's call it five quid," is basically the reaction I got. And I left with the nurses still scratching their heads as to how to handle an American tourist needing medical treatment.

That was a few years ago, and I think as more and more circumstances arise, these questions become more easily answered.

What makes sense to me, but is by far NOT the answer to rely on as being correct, it's not new that American tourists do something that causes a traffic problem. I think the solution has always been to charge a steep fine and then be done with it. What is new/different is that the same American will get a UK driving license as a resident. And I think this is the issue that's been left unanswered. My conclusion: the stiff fine covers it for the infraction made on an American license. On a newly issued UK license, the counter starts back at Zero. And that seems to be the easiest answer..."Uhhh, let's call it five quid".
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Re: What happens to points when you don't have a license (yet)?
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2004, 05:25:41 PM »
Thank you all for the stories and 'it depends' does seem to be the rule here on this issue. :)

My husband paid 40 quid, that's it.  Besides the hassle of the magistrate and filling out forms which asked for how much we spend on ciggies, alcohol, clothing.  To determine his fine amount, I assume.

We've heard nothing since and assume it's resolved though it will be interesting to see what happens upon receiving his UK licence.  That and paying UK taxes after a full tax year.

Thanks again.


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Re: What happens to points when you don't have a license (yet)?
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2004, 05:41:08 PM »
This has nothing to do with the subject other than a correlation coming to mind. I was a visitor here when I got a really bad earache. I went in to the local surgery, and although they treated me, no question, they didn't quite know how to charge me. "Uhhh, let's call it five quid," is basically the reaction I got. And I left with the nurses still scratching their heads as to how to handle an American tourist needing medical treatment.

That was a few years ago, and I think as more and more circumstances arise, these questions become more easily answered.

Ugh.. lucky you Lisa!  I got an ear infection in Oxford last summer when I was a tourist.  The doctor's office charged me £50 due in cash before I could see the doctor.  And my prescription was £12.
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Re: What happens to points when you don't have a license (yet)?
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2004, 06:56:56 AM »
I really threw my surgery off guard. This area wasn't used to Americans...but they're getting used to me now. In Oxford, yes, I can understand they had a policy in place. Lots of Americans, both students and tourists. BUT, £62 to get it sorted? No wonder the doctor wanted his/her part in cash...me thinks there's a racket going on. And Americans not living here permanently wouldn't think to report that.
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Re: What happens to points when you don't have a license (yet)?
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2004, 11:43:24 AM »
It does seem a lot but it is probably not too unreasonable ... I once went to one of those private GP clinics they have at some of the big train stations in London and I paid £45 to see the doctor and about another £20 for tests on top of that. It was free to see a nurse though.


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