EEA Family Permit for the spouses of British Citizens (Surinder Singh Route)

Dear Members,

I have been researching many options for British spouses who can't meet the 18600 GBP financial requirement.

I believe this could be a great information to share for US/Canadian/Australian/New Zealander/Japanese citizens who are spouses of British Citizens and would like to move to the UK with their British Spouses


There is a Surinder Singh Route Where you are a spouse of British Citizen but you would like to enforce the EU Immigration laws rather than British laws that enforces your spouse to be making 18600 GBP or having almost 62500 GBP Savings which is too much
https://www.gov.uk/family-permit/surinder-singh


This is a work around to skip going through 18600 GBP also the hefty fees to reach becoming British Citizens

to Summarize you should live with your British spouse for 3 months (100 days) in any other EU country and then from there apply for an EEA Family Permit rather than spouse visa.

Here you are the best way to apply for this route

If you are US/Canadian/Australian/New Zealander/Japanese citizens
I would advise you to get an IRISH J1 Visa (Working Holiday) from your own country
https://www.dfa.ie/irish-consulate/newyork/our-services/us-ireland-wha/

I got this visa myself when I took a study break from my University in the UK
This is visa is very fast and issued literally in 24 hours.
This visa allows you to live , work or study in Ireland for 1 year.

You just need to enroll in any university anywhere , get an enrollment certificate , show $4000 access , book a roundtrip flight and thats it.

Get this visa and go live with your British Spouse in Ireland for 100 days.
Make sure you both get PPS Number (SSN in the US/NINO in the UK)
Open a Bank Account for you , your British Spouse and Joint account
Try to get an apartment lease for 3 months you and your spouse.

Live in Ireland for 100 days and then you can apply for EEA Family permit Surinder Singh route and then move to the UK

This route will save you almost 1800 GBP the spouse visa fee and also you don't need to show the 18600 GBP financial requirement.

I know there will be concerns because of the BREXIT but maybe by this time you can switch into FLR/ Spouse visa and I am sure there will be route for spouses of EU to settle in the UK or to keep their residence.

This could be very useful to many of you to genuinely consider.

Dear Members,

I have been researching many options for British spouses who can't meet the 18600 GBP financial requirement.

I believe this could be a great information to share for US/Canadian/Australian/New Zealander/Japanese citizens who are spouses of British Citizens and would like to move to the UK with their British Spouses


There is a Surinder Singh Route Where you are a spouse of British Citizen but you would like to enforce the EU Immigration laws rather than British laws that enforces your spouse to be making 18600 GBP or having almost 62500 GBP Savings which is too much
https://www.gov.uk/family-permit/surinder-singh


This is a work around to skip going through 18600 GBP also the hefty fees to reach becoming British Citizens

to Summarize you should live with your British spouse for 3 months (100 days) in any other EU country and then from there apply for an EEA Family Permit rather than spouse visa.

Here you are the best way to apply for this route

If you are US/Canadian/Australian/New Zealander/Japanese citizens
I would advise you to get an IRISH J1 Visa (Working Holiday) from your own country
https://www.dfa.ie/irish-consulate/newyork/our-services/us-ireland-wha/

I got this visa myself when I took a study break from my University in the UK
This is visa is very fast and issued literally in 24 hours.
This visa allows you to live , work or study in Ireland for 1 year.

You just need to enroll in any university anywhere , get an enrollment certificate , show $4000 access , book a roundtrip flight and thats it.

Get this visa and go live with your British Spouse in Ireland for 100 days.
Make sure you both get PPS Number (SSN in the US/NINO in the UK)
Open a Bank Account for you , your British Spouse and Joint account
Try to get an apartment lease for 3 months you and your spouse.

Live in Ireland for 100 days and then you can apply for EEA Family permit Surinder Singh route and then move to the UK

This route will save you almost 1800 GBP the spouse visa fee and also you don't need to show the 18600 GBP financial requirement.

I know there will be concerns because of the BREXIT but maybe by this time you can switch into FLR/ Spouse visa and I am sure there will be route for spouses of EU to settle in the UK or to keep their residence.

This could be very useful to many of you to genuinely consider.

Unfortunately, your plan will not work.

If the UK finds that you are using Singh to circumvent the UK immigration rules, your application will fail.
As I understand it too, people in this situation are not permitted to apply for FLR(M) within the country, rather the are being asked to return to their country of origin and apply correctly using UK rules.

And a few years ago, they tightened the belt on Surinder Singh and now want proof that your "centre of life" has moved.  It was then recommended to be away at least a year, ensure you got a local license, local bank account, lease, job, involved in the community, a church (or other religious outlet), schools, etc.  And the refusals under SS were thick and fast.  It's already virtually impossible to do anymore.  And early Brexit talks are NOT providing any recourse for those here who used SS.  It's pretty bad.     Which is why we no longer recommend this.   

Unfortunately, your plan will not work.

If the UK finds that you are using Singh to circumvent the UK immigration rules, your application will fail.
As I understand it too, people in this situation are not permitted to apply for FLR(M) within the country, rather the are being asked to return to their country of origin and apply correctly using UK rules.

Even some of those who apply for PR after 5 years under the Singh Ruling, are getting refused now the European Court of Justice has finally confirmed that their Singh Ruling cannot be used to avoid the immgiration rules of that country. The UK government has already stated that they consider non-EEA citizens who do that, to have used "fraud" to enter the UK.

On Brexit, there is no offer to be allowed to remain in the UK for those who used the Singh Ruling. When asked why that was missing from the agreement the EU has with the UK, the EU said these (and some on other ECJ Rulings) will use UK domestic laws. There aren't any UK immigration laws for this.

And early Brexit talks are NOT providing any recourse for those here who used SS. 

That wasn't the early talks, it was the final agreement on free movement and ECJ Rulings part. The 28 EEA countries are only concerned about EEA citizens. Now the UK and EU move onto the trade deal part of the agreement.

No EEA country will fight for non-EEA citizens using Singh, even if there are a rare few who used it correctly, as no EEA country agreed with that Ruling. The same for all the non-EEA citizens who used EEA derived rights to be in the UK, nothing for them in the UK/EU agreement for the same reason.

No EEA country agreed with the European Court of Justice 2008 Metock Ruling against the Republic of Ireland, which was the one that then allowed non-EEA citizens to enter any EEA country. It's one the few things that all the EEA countries are united on.  Why do you think Ireland is making it so difficult for these non-EEA citizens who try to use their country as a platform for Singh fraud to other EEA countries?

I believe this could be a great information to share for US/Canadian/Australian/New Zealander/Japanese citizens who are spouses of British Citizens and would like to move to the UK with their British Spouses.

All of those apart from the US, have reciprocal agreements with the UK for their age 18 to 30s to have a temporary work visa. In the UK, it is a Tier 5 visa. They can then switch (in country) to a spouse visa using their salary too to meet the £18.600.

Canada, Australia and New Zealand are Commonwealth countries and if they have a grandparent born in the UK, then their citizens can have a cheap to buy, Ancestry work visa, that leads to settlement after 5 years.

 

This route will save you almost 1800 GBP the spouse visa fee and also you don't need to show the 18600 GBP financial requirement.

I know there will be concerns because of the BREXIT but maybe by this time you can switch into FLR/ Spouse visa and I am sure there will be route for spouses of EU to settle in the UK or to keep their residence.

Nope, no switching (in country). Those on Singh who have then applied from the UK, have been refused as they don't have Limited Leave to Remain. EU laws and UK immigration laws are not interchangeable. Those on Singh who now want to use UK immgratation laws instead, have to go home and apply for a UK spouse visa and then do what everyone else has to do, wait 5 years for ILR.

Nothing offered on Breixt, to those in the UK on Singh.

Unfortunately, your plan will not work.

If the UK finds that you are using Singh to circumvent the UK immigration rules, your application will fail.
As I understand it too, people in this situation are not permitted to apply for FLR(M) within the country, rather the are being asked to return to their country of origin and apply correctly using UK rules.

The UK has created this route and its on their website. There is circumvent in anything. I didn't advise people to lie , withheld or present a false document.
The UK knows that people does that and they call it Surinder Singh based on the man who filed the case against them. Well, As of now the EEA Permit holder can get a permanent residence card after 5 years. If that will be changed after Brexit then they will advise people of other routes. Also, The UK would never kick the settled EEA nationals with their family anyway so who ever got the opportunity to get it should be fine and could become a British Citizen without an issue

And a few years ago, they tightened the belt on Surinder Singh and now want proof that your "centre of life" has moved.  It was then recommended to be away at least a year, ensure you got a local license, local bank account, lease, job, involved in the community, a church (or other religious outlet), schools, etc.  And the refusals under SS were thick and fast.  It's already virtually impossible to do anymore.  And early Brexit talks are NOT providing any recourse for those here who used SS.  It's pretty bad.     Which is why we no longer recommend this.   

I agree with you its not 100% recommended if you are meeting all the other requirements of applying for spouse visa. Spouse visa is a more solid ground than Surinder Sing which is a workaround "Technically"

But the UK government make the tight requirement of 18600 GBP which has jeopardized so many families and children. It was a cause for many broken families and you can't deny that  There has been so many documentary shows on TV talking about that requirement and also they ask people to have 62500 Savings for 6 months in their account. I have a decent job with six figures salary and I don't have $2000 in my bank because I get by with the expenses where I live.

62500 GBP in the UK is a lot of money even to the us its = $90,000.

The UK has created this route and its on their website. There is circumvent in anything. I didn't advise people to lie , withheld or present a false document.
The UK knows that people does that and they call it Surinder Singh based on the man who filed the case against them. Well, As of now the EEA Permit holder can get a permanent residence card after 5 years. If that will be changed after Brexit then they will advise people of other routes. Also, The UK would never kick the settled EEA nationals with their family anyway so who ever got the opportunity to get it should be fine and could become a British Citizen without an issue

I know you weren’t suggesting anything untoward and l’m sorry I’d I sounded a little stern. But you have obviously just discovered this route which is now all but closed and I just don’t want you to get your hopes up for what is not a viable option.

Its not closed as of now. Its still on the GOV UK website and still valid but true it may change or close by March 2019. As of now its still available so people can do it

I know you weren’t suggesting anything untoward and l’m sorry I’d I sounded a little stern. But you have obviously just discovered this route which is now all but closed and I just don’t want you to get your hopes up for what is not a viable option.

How its considered fraud and they write it in their website. Yes , I agree they might red flag people. Home Office usually red flag anyone try to use workarounds but its not fraud because they mentioned everything about it even in detail. They will take a closer look on the application , documents and may request interview as well but you should be fine if you are in a genuine relationship with the spouse and not trying to evade immigration laws to be in the country. If its a real and not sham marriage then you shouldn't worry about getting refused. Its for free then appeal or reapply who cares really as long as you are not paying hefty fees like the spouse visa.

Also, by suggesting this rouse to go to Ireland the people are not losing much anyway.
The foreign spouse along with his/her British spouse can live and settle easy in Ireland and can find a job as well. It not easy to rent an apartment in central Dublin for sure but its easy to live and work there. So they can make a life there and then move to the UK when they have everything set.

Even some of those who apply for PR after 5 years under the Singh Ruling, are getting refused now the European Court of Justice has finally confirmed that their Singh Ruling cannot be used to avoid the immgiration rules of that country. The UK government has already stated that they consider non-EEA citizens who do that, to have used "fraud" to enter the UK.

On Brexit, there is no offer to be allowed to remain in the UK for those who used the Singh Ruling. When asked why that was missing from the agreement the EU has with the UK, the EU said these (and some on other ECJ Rulings) will use UK domestic laws. There aren't any UK immigration laws for this.

Its not closed as of now. Its still on the GOV UK website and still valid but true it may change or close by March 2019. As of now its still available so people can do it

While it’s not closed yet, it will be closing very soon, and it involves uprooting your entire life to a new country for at least 6 months to a year, plus the non-EEA spouse would have to move to that country too so you could live together... so by the time you had done that and could qualify for Surinder Singh, the option wouldn’t be available anymore.

It’s a lot of time, effort and money to go through when you’re just going to have to return to your home country to apply for a spousal visa a few months later anyway. Might as well just apply for a spousal visa in the first place.

Surinder Singh is aimed at UK citizens who have already been living in an EEA country with a non-EEA spouse for a few years and now wish to move back to the UK. It’s not intended for people who live in the UK to decide to move to another EEA country for a few months purely to qualify for Surinder Singh.


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