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« on: January 23, 2018, 04:37:04 PM »
are they considered immediate cash, as would a house sale? As they say at Tesco "every little helps"
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Re: tax refunds
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2018, 05:08:25 PM »
In what context? To use as Cash Savings for a visa?


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Re: tax refunds
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2018, 05:11:22 PM »
If it's for a visa, then:

- any money received from a tax refund would need to be held in an account in your name(s) for a minimum of 6 months before you could apply for the visa. If it's been less than 6 months at the time of application, that money cannot be considered.

- any money from a house sale can be used for the visa immediately upon the money being deposited into your account (without waiting 6 months) PROVIDED you owned the house for at least 6 months before it was sold. There are a number of documents you would need to provide to show that this was the case.


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Re: tax refunds
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2018, 06:25:18 PM »
Thanks! I swear they are making this extra tough because of Brexit!
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Re: tax refunds
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2018, 06:26:18 PM »
Thanks! I swear they are making this extra tough because of Brexit!

Nope, it's been this tough since 2012!  ;D


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Re: tax refunds
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2018, 06:27:59 PM »
Nope, it's been this tough since 2012!  ;D
heck, then who or what can I blame???  ;) ;D :P
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Re: tax refunds
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2018, 06:44:38 PM »
heck, then who or what can I blame???  ;) ;D :P

You can blame David Cameron's government who swore to get net migration to the UK down to less than 100,000 per year from over 300,000.

They couldn't do anything about EU migration, so first they tightened the rules for work visas and student visas and then they targeted settlement visas. Theresa May was Home Secretary at the time and brought in the tough rules in July 2012.

The idea was that the new financial requirement would mean that about 45% of the people who would previously have qualified for a spousal visa, would no longer be able to qualify for one.

More information about it:
http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/reports/the-minimum-income-requirement-for-non-eea-family-members-in-the-uk-2/

The problem was that there was only so much they could do to tighten the rules for non-EEA citizens because EU migration was a big contributor to the high numbers.

Since the Brexit vote, I believe net migration has dropped by 100,000... something that the tightening of the visa rules failed to do (in fact, net migration to the UK actually rose after 2012): http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42178038


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Re: tax refunds
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2018, 02:51:19 PM »
You can blame David Cameron's government who swore to get net migration to the UK down to less than 100,000 per year from over 300,000.

They couldn't do anything about EU migration, so first they tightened the rules for work visas and student visas and then they targeted settlement visas. Theresa May was Home Secretary at the time and brought in the tough rules in July 2012.

EEA citizens wanting to come to the UK to work, was never a problem and net migration to the UK remained at 50,000 a year for decades.

In fact workers from the EU could ask for ILR as soon as they arrived if they were working in the UK. They could even asked to be stamped in "ILR" at the border when they arrived to work in the UK. If they didn't want ILR, any child they had that was born in the UK, was always born British if they had an EU citizen parent who was working in the UK. Even with that open door for any hard workers from the EU, UK net migration remained at 50,000 a year.

However that all stopped for EU citizens in 2000. Blair and his Labour party had been voted in to govern the UK. No grandfathering in either as even those EU workers that arrived before that date, has now lost their chance for ILR. No more of therir child being born British if they were working in the UK, which is a bizare situation as they could have a child born in the UK before 2000 that was born British and child born after that date now not born British.

Then in about 2002/3 came in the invention that Blair called a vote winner for Labour, a welfare payment called "Tax Credits". This welfare payment meant there was now no need for parents to work anymore or to work more than 20 hours a week between them if they didn't want to (that 20 hours a week gave them more of money from their Tax Credits benefit). That benefit money for the children, was given to their parents to spend. The Labour Minister in charge of child welfare, resigned. Net migration to the UK then went to the hundreds of thousands every year.

Easy UK visas were then created for low sklilled non-EEA citizens too and the EEA citizens could claim Tax Credits and all other benefits as soon as they arrived and they didn't have to ever work. We even had a situation where International students could have ILR after 10 years even if they didn't pass an exam. The clever students who firms wanted, had to have a Resident Labour Market Test. That RLMT requirement for international students that firms wanted, ended when Labour was removed from government.


In 2014 the MAC reported that in 2013, 6 billion pounds a year was being given to those who are a foreign national or who were a foregin national when they first applied for a NINo, just in that one welfare payment called Tax Credits alone.
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Re: tax refunds
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2018, 03:00:30 PM »
EEA citizens wanting to come to the UK to work, was never a problem and net migration to the UK remained at 50,000 a year for decades.

In fact workers from the EU could ask for ILR as soon as they arrived if they were working in the UK. They could even asked to be stamped in "ILR" at the border when they arrived to work in the UK. If they didn't want ILR, any child they had that was born in the UK, was always born British if they had an EU citizen parent who was working in the UK. Even with that open door for any hard workers from the EU, UK net migration remained at 50,000 a year.

However that all stopped for EU citizens in 2000. Blair and his Labour party had been voted in to govern the UK. No grandfathering in either as even those EU workers that arrived before that date, has now lost their chance for ILR. A bizare situation as they could have a child born in the UK before 2000 that was born British and child born after that date now not born British.

Then in about 2002/3 came in the invention that Blair called a vote winner for Labour, a welfare payment called "Tax Credits". This welfare payment meant there was now no need for parents to work anymore or to work more than 20 hours a week between them if they didn't want to (that 20 hours a week gave them more of money from their Tax Credits benefit). That benefit money for the children, was given to their parents to spend. The Labour Minister in charge of child welfare, resigned. Net migration to the UK then went to the hundreds of thousands every year.

Easy UK visas were then created for low sklilled non-EEA citizens too. EEA citizens could claim Tax Credits and all other benefits as soon as they arrived and they didn't have to work. We even had a situation where International students could have ILR after 10 years even if they didn't pass an exam. The clever students who firms wanted, had to have a Resident Labour Market Test. That RLMT requirement for international students that firms wanted, ended when Labour was removed from government.


In 2014 the MAC reported that in 2013, 6 billion pounds a year was being given to those who are a foreign national or who were a foregin national when they first applied for a NINo, just in that one welfare payment called Tax Credits alone.

I'd be happy to see scholarly citations affirming all these statements, which seem very oriented to the Tory party point of view.  MAC is not exactly an objective, nonpartisan group.


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Re: tax refunds
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2018, 03:58:36 PM »
I'd be happy to see scholarly citations affirming all these statements, which seem very oriented to the Tory party point of view.  MAC is not exactly an objective, nonpartisan group.

All very easy to find on the web, as is checking your claim above about The MAC-

On the government site I find that - The MAC is made up of a chair and 3 other independent economists.

The present Chairman of The MAC according to my quick search that I just carried out, is Alan Manning.

Lot on hits from my search, such as -

Alan Manning is a Professor of labour economics at the London School of Economics. He is a leading author in his field in the theory of labour economics, particularly through his contributions to understanding of the imperfections of labour markets. His many publications go back to 1985.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Manning

And another on the London School of Economics university site-
http://www.lse.ac.uk/economics/people/faculty/alan-manning

And the other 3 independent economists


Professor Jackie Wahba, Professor of Economics.
On the Southanpton University site
https://www.southampton.ac.uk/economics/about/staff/jew3.page

Dr Jennifer Smith
On the Warwick University site
https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/staff/jcsmith/

And from the Universaity of Oxford website
Madeleine Sumption
http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/about/people/madeleine-sumption/
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