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Unusual ILR question
« on: February 01, 2018, 06:31:07 AM »
Hi guys.
I remember reading something before I moved here to the UK that in order to apply for citizenship, you have to cut all ties to the States. Residency, DL, bank accounts, credit cards...even library cards.
I don't remember where I read it...although it might have been on this website. I was just wondering if I am remembering this correctly. I also cannot remember if this was a requirement for citizenship or for ILR. I'm really hoping that its not ILR....I have a ton of student loans that I have been sending money home to my American bank account to pay every month. I also have a life insurance policy to protect my parents as co-signers of those loans. It would be a nightmare to have to figure out how to deal with all of that before 2020. Also...that would be incredibly unfair of the UK to require you to break all ties with your home country before you were granted IRL. What if it got denied????
Anywho...does anyone know anything about this? I am just trying to look ahead. Thanks!
Engaged: June 2014
Married: July 30 2014
Visa Application Received in UK: Nov. 27 2014
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Re: Unusual ILR question
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2018, 06:47:21 AM »
Nope, that's completely untrue - I've NEVER heard that before, not for ILR or for citizenship.

In fact, I remember a few years ago that a couple of people on the forum applied for citizenship, then moved back to the US as soon as it was granted and actually attended their UK citizenship ceremony in the US.


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Re: Unusual ILR question
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2018, 06:53:43 AM »
For both FLR(M) and ILR, the application forms asks what ties you have to your home country (family, friends, businesses, property etc.) - this is to see whether, if the visa was refused, it would be possible for you and your spouse to move back to that country to live instead of staying in the UK, or if it would be physically impossible for you to return which means they may have to grant the visa because your life would be in danger otherwise (i.e. your country is war-torn or corrupt, or has no infrastructure, or you would end up destitute and homeless if you had to leave the UK).


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Re: Unusual ILR question
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2018, 07:34:58 AM »
I think you are remembering reading about how to cut all ties with your state in order that you are not still liable to have to file state taxes once you have moved to the U.K. .  Some states are very difficult to get out of the clutches of.
As ksand points out, it’s not an immigration requirement.
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Re: Unusual ILR question
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2018, 03:02:45 PM »
In fact, I remember a few years ago that a couple of people on the forum applied for citizenship, then moved back to the US as soon as it was granted and actually attended their UK citizenship ceremony in the US.

Wait, that's an option?!  Naturalizing as a UK citizen in the US is even better than trying to get it done at Wooky Hole... (which I have sadly concluded I cannot do... but cheese caves!  How awesome would that be?)
9/1/2013 - "fiancée" (marriage) visa issued
4/6/2013 - married (certificate issued same-day)
5/6/2013 - FLR(M)#1 in person -- approved!
8/1/2016 - FLR(M)#2 by post -- approved!
8/5/2018 - ILR in person -- approved!
22/11/2018 - Citizenship (online, with NDRS+JCAP) -- approved!
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Re: Unusual ILR question
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2018, 03:04:07 PM »
Wait, that's an option?!  Naturalizing as a UK citizen in the US is even better than trying to get it done at Wooky Hole... (which I have sadly concluded I cannot do... but cheese caves!  How awesome would that be?)

You crack me up.  You know the ceremony is approximately 3 minutes long if a private ceremony, right?


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Re: Unusual ILR question
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2018, 03:15:45 PM »
You crack me up.  You know the ceremony is approximately 3 minutes long if a private ceremony, right?

I know, but I would make them draw it out.  I mean, paying a premium, I should get my my sister's* money's worth.  ;)

* I was going to make her pay for it.

But I think I've decided to just do the Swansea Civic Centre regular (not even private!) ceremony and not spend any extra.  I don't have to worry about impatient children for the 90-minute ordeal, so I can't really justify the extra fee.  But it would be amusing to do it in a cheese cave, or in the US, just to be different.  If I could afford to do it without slowing down getting a kitchen and fixing my house...  :P
9/1/2013 - "fiancée" (marriage) visa issued
4/6/2013 - married (certificate issued same-day)
5/6/2013 - FLR(M)#1 in person -- approved!
8/1/2016 - FLR(M)#2 by post -- approved!
8/5/2018 - ILR in person -- approved!
22/11/2018 - Citizenship (online, with NDRS+JCAP) -- approved!
14/12/2018 - I became a British citizen.  :)


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Re: Unusual ILR question
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2018, 03:20:48 PM »
The cheese cave idea is the best idea I've ever heard if, if I'm honest.

Yeah, I really begrudged the extra fee.  Oh well.  I got an awesome picture of the baby.


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Re: Unusual ILR question
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2018, 03:25:28 PM »
The cheese cave idea is the best idea I've ever heard if, if I'm honest.

Yeah, I really begrudged the extra fee.  Oh well.  I got an awesome picture of the baby.

Wooky Hole is an approved wedding premises, so I assume I could elect to do my citizenship ceremony there, but I'm not sure if all councils do citizenship ceremonies...?  And, anyway, the cost to book a chamber of the caverns was £1800.  And that's on top of whatever fee the council would've charged for the off-site private location.  £2000+ for something I could do for free was just silly money.  (Not that I looked into this at all!)
9/1/2013 - "fiancée" (marriage) visa issued
4/6/2013 - married (certificate issued same-day)
5/6/2013 - FLR(M)#1 in person -- approved!
8/1/2016 - FLR(M)#2 by post -- approved!
8/5/2018 - ILR in person -- approved!
22/11/2018 - Citizenship (online, with NDRS+JCAP) -- approved!
14/12/2018 - I became a British citizen.  :)


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Re: Unusual ILR question
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2018, 03:28:13 PM »
I could just bring some really stinky cheese wherever you have it.


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Re: Unusual ILR question
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2018, 03:39:12 PM »
Wait, that's an option?!  Naturalizing as a UK citizen in the US is even better than trying to get it done at Wooky Hole... (which I have sadly concluded I cannot do... but cheese caves!  How awesome would that be?)

It was around 10 years ago so I don’t know if it’s possible anymore.

Here’s a couple of threads from several years ago about it:
http://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=49908.msg708507#msg708507
And
http://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=68634.msg958640#msg958640
And
http://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=53615.msg767954#msg767954
And
http://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=54995.msg784888#msg784888


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Re: Unusual ILR question
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2018, 03:46:43 PM »
@jfkimberly I'm both impressed and dismayed at your extensive Wooky Hole ceremony planning.  I'm not sure if I should laugh or back away slowly.

Ah, who I kidding.  It's awesome!  May I please attend?


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Re: Unusual ILR question
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2018, 04:08:13 PM »
I could just bring some really stinky cheese wherever you have it.

It's not the same if it isn't inside a cave!  (Even if the cheese was cave-aged.)

It was around 10 years ago so I don’t know if it’s possible anymore.

Here’s a couple of threads from several years ago about it:
http://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=49908.msg708507#msg708507
And
http://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=68634.msg958640#msg958640
And
http://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=53615.msg767954#msg767954
And
http://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=54995.msg784888#msg784888

Ooh, those are interesting reads.  I need to check out 6.2 to see how it has changed in the last decade.

@jfkimberly I'm both impressed and dismayed at your extensive Wooky Hole ceremony planning.  I'm not sure if I should laugh or back away slowly.

Ah, who I kidding.  It's awesome!  May I please attend?

I did think that if I had an "approved premises" private ceremony, I would have to invite people for it to make sense, and I thought about just blanket inviting the whole forum.  :P

But, again, this is not going to happen because I'm poor and my house is broken!  It would be funny/awesome, though. :)

I wonder how many of us would be granted citizenship near the same time so we could coordinate our ceremonies... it would be really cool if we could do a group private one at a fun location.  A logistical nightmare, but really cool.
9/1/2013 - "fiancée" (marriage) visa issued
4/6/2013 - married (certificate issued same-day)
5/6/2013 - FLR(M)#1 in person -- approved!
8/1/2016 - FLR(M)#2 by post -- approved!
8/5/2018 - ILR in person -- approved!
22/11/2018 - Citizenship (online, with NDRS+JCAP) -- approved!
14/12/2018 - I became a British citizen.  :)


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Re: Unusual ILR question
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2018, 04:38:50 PM »
The cheese cave idea is the best idea I've ever heard if, if I'm honest.

Yeah, I really begrudged the extra fee.  Oh well.  I got an awesome picture of the baby.

That photo of your baby makes it worth every penny!
Married 1966, left UK 1969, returned 1998, left again 2000, returned June 2014 (husband on spousal visa) granted FLR(M) November 30th 2016  and ILR on  24th May, 2019. Yeah!


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