ILR 2018/2019 Docs

OK, thanks. We're using my husband's income to meet the threshold this time, so, I'm guessing they wouldn't need one from my employer?

No, if your husband's income meets the requirement, you only provide his employment documents, and you don't even mention your employment on the application form.

I took maternity leave for a big chunk of the year preceding my application, so I don't actually have six consecutive months that meet the income threshold!

Just for information, if you have been on maternity leave for part of the qualifying period, you can use your income from the 6 months before you went on maternity leave for the visa.

From Appendix FM 1.7:

5.5.19. Where the applicant’s partner (and/or the applicant if they are in the UK with permission to work) is in receipt of maternity, paternity, adoption or sick pay, or has been so in the 6 months prior to the date of application, the relevant date for considering the length of employment and the income from the employment can be either:
- The date of application; or
- The date of commencement of the maternity, paternity, adoption or sick leave.

But the specified time periods for any other sources of income that are being combined with the employment income will remain as otherwise set out in Appendix FM-SE and this guidance.

Just for information, if you have been on maternity leave for part of the qualifying period, you can use your income from the 6 months before you went on maternity leave for the visa.

From Appendix FM 1.7:

Good to know! Thanks.

OK, thanks. We're using my husband's income to meet the threshold this time, so, I'm guessing they wouldn't need one from my employer?

I took maternity leave for a big chunk of the year preceding my application, so I don't actually have six consecutive months that meet the income threshold!

That's correct.  If your husband's income meets the requirement alone, there's no need to provide details of yours.  Less work!  Yay!

So I've started to fill out the online form for the ILR with the thought that I'm just waiting on one last thing to come through the post for my documents and once I have that, I'll double check everything and the application will already be filled out and ready to go. I've just done the first qualifying part and they have something at the very start that states:

"You must include all your reasons for wanting to stay in the UK on this application.
You need to tell us any reasons why you should be allowed to stay as soon as you can. If you apply later giving these reasons you may lose the right to appeal a refusal of that application.
You can give additional information in the space provided at the end of this application if needed."

Is it preferable to have this one a separate page do you know? It mentions you can provide additional info at the end in the notes if needed but are they expecting to see this in a letter-type format? Or will I be answering this through the application itself?

Anybody that has filled out this new application that can advise what they did would be greatly appreciated

Sorry - also just had this question pop up "Do you have any family in your country of birth, nationality or any other country where you have lived for more than 5 years?" but they only give you 500 characters....unsure how I'm suppose to list out my entire family that still live in the US..? I can try grouping them together based on where they live but even that will go over 500 characters I'm sure.

Did anybody find a good way to go about this? Can I just say "All of my family live there and I maintain regular contact with them via WhatsApp, social media, and yearly visits for 2 week periods. They all live in Massachusetts" or do I truly need to list out everybody (assuming this is also just about immediate family)?

Sorry - also just had this question pop up "Do you have any family in your country of birth, nationality or any other country where you have lived for more than 5 years?" but they only give you 500 characters....unsure how I'm suppose to list out my entire family that still live in the US..? I can try grouping them together based on where they live but even that will go over 500 characters I'm sure.

In the past, all you've had to say is something like:
'Parents and siblings in X state'
'Cousins in Y state'

In the past, all you've had to say is something like:
'Parents and siblings in X state'
'Cousins in Y state'

It's asking now for specific names as well as how you're related and info for each so I've just put it like this:

1. name - USA - mother - weekly calls, social media, yearly visits, etc.
2. name - USA - father -  weekly calls, yearly visits, etc.
3. name - USA - sister - etc. etc. etc.
4. name - USA - sister - etc. etc. etc.


and then I stopped there. I didn't include my BILs or my neices/nephews and I definitely didn't include extended family like aunts/uncles/nieces because I have so much family that I stay in contact with or visit when I make my yearly visit home that it would NEVER fit but they are asking for specific names so I'm not sure I'll be in trouble if I just put "parents/siblings all living in MA " with how we stay in contact.

It's asking me for all my friends as well (but that would also include UK friends as I've now lived here more than 5 years). I honestly just getting overly stressed because it seems pretty stupid to ask what they are asking with a limit of 500 characters... They even want you to include how you're related (which I'm clearly not, it's obvious they are a friend as they are asking about friend).

I've just started listing out everybody I'm friends with that I speak to in the same format as my family and will just go until I'm out of characters I guess....just seems like a waste of time as they could be asking for this on a separate page or in a more vague context where it'll actually fit...

ah, kissofdeath, i remember when you were just a few months ahead of me applying for your 2nd FLRM....

i too am interested in the specifics of this new detail-oriented question about friends and family. i'm more or less estranged from the vast majority of my immediate family, and they also all live in states out west i have never visited (i too grew up in massachusetts! but i can't help it if a bunch of my family joined a religious cult after i went to college...)

i *am* close with some extended family and have a wonderful set of close friends/chosen family, though. they're the ones i see every year on visits home to boston.

i wonder what i should put down.

ah, kissofdeath, i remember when you were just a few months ahead of me applying for your 2nd FLRM....

i too am interested in the specifics of this new detail-oriented question about friends and family. i'm more or less estranged from the vast majority of my immediate family, and they also all live in states out west i have never visited (i too grew up in massachusetts! but i can't help it if a bunch of my family joined a religious cult after i went to college...)

i *am* close with some extended family and have a wonderful set of close friends/chosen family, though. they're the ones i see every year on visits home to boston.

i wonder what i should put down.

What I have gone with in the end (unless somebody suggests otherwise before I submit my application this week), is to just list my immediate family with a comment about how I have other family mainly in MA that I am in contact with through my annual visit home. Perhaps you could say something along the lines of "My immediate family does reside in the US, however I have not been in contact with them for x-years. The family I have in the US that I have remained in contact with includes the following: ....." and then list them. For friends I would name a few but leave room for a comment that this is just a few of the people you are friends with and have stayed in contact with in the US but that you couldn't fit them all (that is also what I have done at present).

Best of luck

Sorry to impede on your post but I am in the process of filling out my FLR (M) 1st time and I have run across the family and friends in the my country (USA)
How I filled it out:

Immediate Family (Parents, Aunts, Uncles, Half Sister
Name - Relation- City, State, Country

My father side of the family is fairly big so what I did was put a comment below the immediate family section is "I have numerous cousins on my father side but we do not stay in contact on regularly basis"

Then listed close friends
I put a comment that these are the friends I stay in contact with on a more regular basis
and I have 6 friends listed.
same layout as with family
Name- Friend- City, State, Country

Is this ok...or should i fill up the entire 1000 characters it gives me and list the cousins  and/or more friends
Thanks in advance

Sorry to impede on your post but I am in the process of filling out my FLR (M) 1st time and I have run across the family and friends in the my country (USA)
How I filled it out:

Immediate Family (Parents, Aunts, Uncles, Half Sister
Name - Relation- City, State, Country

My father side of the family is fairly big so what I did was put a comment below the immediate family section is "I have numerous cousins on my father side but we do not stay in contact on regularly basis"

Then listed close friends
I put a comment that these are the friends I stay in contact with on a more regular basis
and I have 6 friends listed.
same layout as with family
Name- Friend- City, State, Country

Is this ok...or should i fill up the entire 1000 characters it gives me and list the cousins  and/or more friends
Thanks in advance

They gave you 1000 characters?! They only gave me 500 characters each! (or is it 1000 characters with a box for everybody? I know that's what it used to be but unsure if it's changed in the last few years.

What I did for mine that I've just submitted is in both, I filled as much as I could but allowed for a note that at the bottom in each that said "My family is all based in the US, mainly in MA, but I've only listed my immediate family due to space provided" / "I have friends across the US but I cannot fit any more due to space provided". I listed the closest ones that I speak to the most outside of just social media first (like the ones I make time to visit with when I'm home vs the ones I only speak to via facebook messenger/comments where we talk about how we SHOULD meet up lol).

They gave you 1000 characters?! They only gave me 500 characters each! (or is it 1000 characters with a box for everybody? I know that's what it used to be but unsure if it's changed in the last few years.

What I did for mine that I've just submitted is in both, I filled as much as I could but allowed for a note that at the bottom in each that said "My family is all based in the US, mainly in MA, but I've only listed my immediate family due to space provided" / "I have friends across the US but I cannot fit any more due to space provided". I listed the closest ones that I speak to the most outside of just social media first (like the ones I make time to visit with when I'm home vs the ones I only speak to via facebook messenger/comments where we talk about how we SHOULD meet up lol).

Its a 1000 character single box. I will have no issue filling it up. so I fill it up with as many family members and friends that i can. i only have about 150 characters left to use

Its a 1000 character single box. I will have no issue filling it up. so I fill it up with as many family members and friends that i can. i only have about 150 characters left to use

Yeah I would just fill it as much as you can and then just make the note that there wasn't enough space to include everybody so you've put all the most important people or something like that. That's what I'd do