Starting Fiancé Visa - Gathering Evidence

Hello again, my fiancé and I are now working through the accommodation evidence.

First Question: Would this be the correct link for obtaining the land registry deed in Scotland or is there somewhere else we should get it:
https://www.ros.gov.uk/our-registers/land-register-of-scotland [nofollow]

Second Question: If that is the correct link, it doesn't have the address we're looking for in their records, and I'm assuming that's because my fiancé's parents bought the property prior to the records being stored in this format.  They do have their deed to the house, so would us scanning this document suffice for proving ownership of the address?

Third question: I know I've seen on many different threads that the property inspection report is not required, but within Appendix FM Section 1.7A, the information below is stated.  I've also seen in many threads that a property inspection report is only needed if you're staying in an HMO.  Our situation will involve living with my fiancé's parents & brother, so that has me worried regarding whether we need to include the property inspection report or not.  Has anyone come across this information in Appendix FM 1.7A and would it mean that we DO need to include the property inspection report?

"A house in multiple occupation (HMO) is defined as ‘a house which is occupied by persons who do not form a single household’. This covers hotels and hostels, as well as houses lived in by 2 or more family units or by a couple (and their dependent children) living with the parents or other family members of one of them."

Apologies for the long question(s) and thank you in advance!

Hello again, my fiancé and I are now working through the accommodation evidence.

First Question: Would this be the correct link for obtaining the land registry deed in Scotland or is there somewhere else we should get it:
https://www.ros.gov.uk/our-registers/land-register-of-scotland

Second Question: If that is the correct link, it doesn't have the address we're looking for in their records, and I'm assuming that's because my fiancé's parents bought the property prior to the records being stored in this format.  They do have their deed to the house, so would us scanning this document suffice for proving ownership of the address?

Third question: I know I've seen on many different threads that the property inspection report is not required, but within Appendix FM Section 1.7A, the information below is stated.  I've also seen in many threads that a property inspection report is only needed if you're staying in an HMO.  Our situation will involve living with my fiancé's parents & brother, so that has me worried regarding whether we need to include the property inspection report or not.  Has anyone come across this information in Appendix FM 1.7A and would it mean that we DO need to include the property inspection report?

"A house in multiple occupation (HMO) is defined as ‘a house which is occupied by persons who do not form a single household’. This covers hotels and hostels, as well as houses lived in by 2 or more family units or by a couple (and their dependent children) living with the parents or other family members of one of them."

Apologies for the long question(s) and thank you in advance!

You definitely do not need a property report in your situation.

This is the link direct from the .gov site so looks like you're in the right place. https://www.ros.gov.uk

But you're right, if the house has not changed hands for long enough, it'll not be there. The deeds are ideal. I actually had them notarised but I would hope that a copy along with an original letter from your parents would be enough.

Hi All,

We are looking into the financial requirement information and the limited company requirements are confusing us a bit.

Appendix FM-SE Section 2.(d) States:
Where the person is a director of a limited company based in the UK, evidence that the company is not of a type specified in paragraph 9(a). This can include the latest Annual Return filed at Companies House.

Appendix FM-SE Section 9.(a) States:
9. In respect of income from employment and/or shares in a limited company based in the UK of a type specified in paragraph 9(a), the requirements of paragraph 9(b)-(e) shall apply in place of the requirements of paragraphs 2 and 10(b).
(a) The specified type of limited company is one in which:
(i) the person is either a director or employee of the company, or both, or of another company within the same group; and (ii) shares are held (directly or indirectly) by the person, their partner or the following family members of the person or their partner: parent, grandparent, child, stepchild, grandchild, brother, sister, uncle, aunt, nephew, niece or first cousin; and
(iii) any remaining shares are held (directly or indirectly) by fewer than five other persons.


My fiancé works for a limited company, but it is NOT a specified limited company according to FM-SE 9.(a).  However, I just want to be sure that we do not need to submit the company's Annual Return filed at Companies House as part of our application.  When reading FM-SE 2.(d), it appears you only need to submit the Annual Return if you are a director (NOT if you are just an employee) of a limited company.

Is this correct?  Or would we still need to submit the Annual Return?

Hi All,

We are looking into the financial requirement information and the limited company requirements are confusing us a bit.

Appendix FM-SE Section 2.(d) States:
Where the person is a director of a limited company based in the UK, evidence that the company is not of a type specified in paragraph 9(a). This can include the latest Annual Return filed at Companies House.

Appendix FM-SE Section 9.(a) States:
9. In respect of income from employment and/or shares in a limited company based in the UK of a type specified in paragraph 9(a), the requirements of paragraph 9(b)-(e) shall apply in place of the requirements of paragraphs 2 and 10(b).
(a) The specified type of limited company is one in which:
(i) the person is either a director or employee of the company, or both, or of another company within the same group; and (ii) shares are held (directly or indirectly) by the person, their partner or the following family members of the person or their partner: parent, grandparent, child, stepchild, grandchild, brother, sister, uncle, aunt, nephew, niece or first cousin; and
(iii) any remaining shares are held (directly or indirectly) by fewer than five other persons.


My fiancé works for a limited company, but it is NOT a specified limited company according to FM-SE 9.(a).  However, I just want to be sure that we do not need to submit the company's Annual Return filed at Companies House as part of our application.  When reading FM-SE 2.(d), it appears you only need to submit the Annual Return if you are a director (NOT if you are just an employee) of a limited company.

Is this correct?  Or would we still need to submit the Annual Return?

Does this apply to his situation?

(i) the person is either a director or employee of the company, or both, or of another company within the same group; and (ii) shares are held (directly or indirectly) by the person, their partner or the following family members of the person or their partner: parent, grandparent, child, stepchild, grandchild, brother, sister, uncle, aunt, nephew, niece or first cousin; and
(iii) any remaining shares are held (directly or indirectly) by fewer than five other persons.

Larrabee,

FM-SE Section 9.(a) does NOT apply to our situation.  The only thing that was tripping us up was that in Section 9.(a) it talks about "director or employee" but in FM-SE Section 2.(d) it only states "director".

Therefore, I believe we would not need to worry about the Annual Return, but wasn't 100% sure due to the differing ways that it is worded throughout FM-SE.

They are saying that if it's a family business, they need the extra info.

Hello Again,

We are working on getting the employer letter for the financial requirement currently, and Appendix FM-SE states that the letter should be signed by a senior official.

Who all counts as a senior official at a company?  My fiancé works for a very large company, so our request for the letter is being handled by a person with the title of "Payroll Officer".  Is this sufficient?  Or, should we also see if we can have one of the senior managers from her department sign the letter in addition to the Payroll Officer?

That should be fine.

Usually employer letters are signed by either HR/Payroll or by the employee's Line Manager.