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Pledge Ceremony
« on: February 10, 2005, 05:57:27 PM »
Does anyone know about this "pledge ceremony" which was new starting in 2004 for becoming a British Citizen? I know that we are sent a certificate which provides us the ability to get a British passport. Is there more invloved then just getting a passport for citizenship?

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Re: Pledge Ceremony
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2005, 06:42:52 PM »
You get the certificate at the ceremony.

The first thing you get is the letter from the Home Office telling you that your application is approved.
The next thing you get is an 'invitation' to a ceremony, which you have to arrange with your local council registrar.
Once you've done that, you go to the ceremony for the 'oath of affirmation', and then you get the certificate.
You've got to have the certificate to get your UK passport.

I'm waiting to hear when my ceremony is.... apparently im the only one in my area who is doing this, and they are waiting to see if there are any more takers before the end of the month...


Re: Pledge Ceremony
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2005, 09:26:31 PM »
This is what happens at a citizenship ceremony (or, at least what happened at mine in December).

I got notice from the Home Office that my application was successful (yeah). The next day I got a form from the CIty Counicl telling me that I'd been booked for December 22. In Cov they only do one a month. I had to send in a form listing the names of my four invitees, if I planned to pledge or affirm allegiance to the Queen (the latter is secular) and if I minded shaking the hand of the town's Mayor.

The service was scheduled for 2-4. In reality in began at 2:30 and was over by 3. Coming to the Council, they check your id against the official letter and sit you in an assigned seat. The numbers getting citizenship were around 40. Mostly South Asian of all ages, younger Caribbean/African, and then some East Europeans. It seemed that about 50% were Muslim, judging by the names. I was the only West European/American. Dress varied. I came in a suit and tie, others came in track suit pants. The room was held in the council chambers, very official, but loads of children running around chaotically.

The worst part was for having to listen to Elgar on a CD boom box for 30 minutes waiting for the ceremony to begin.

Then the thing begins, a woman from City Council comes in, we stand for the Lord Mayor in regalia, and the woman tells what's going to happen. The first thing you see in the room is a larger than life-sixe photograph of ELizabeth on a tripod. The UK flag forlornly draped on a pole that seemed randomly placed in the room.

Whenever the woman with the mike mentioned Her Majesty, she turned to look at the photograph and slightly nodded her head. Then the Lord Mayor spoke (a low talker). This was the sort of Vegas like moment: her with the mike, him in Liberace dress.

Then all those who swear do so in a group, followed by those who pledge. Then all say the citizenship thing. Then we sat down and waited to be called by name to come up and receive a scroll with our name on it, like graduation. When you got your scroll, you shook hands with the Mayor and posed so that your friends could take a photograph. One Asian guy came alone but he had a camera and the Vinnie Jones look-alike guard took the photograph for him!

Then you walk over and get a folder with the official certificate and a packet telling you how to apply for a passport. (The packet can be gotten from any Post office incidentally, but not the certificate).

After everyone had their scroll/folder. We went to another room for tea and biscuits. That was it.

One word about the certificate. You have to send it in for the passport and they fold it! to fit in the envelope. It came back even more dissheveled from the UK Passport agency. BTW, it took a week to get the passport through the post office's service. The UK passport is couriered to you. They mailed back my US passport in a regular second class mail envelope (thanks guys, any idiot could have felt that it was a passport).

The day was very British, a bit chaotic and cheesy, but worth doing. It really doesn't take long and there is that frisson when you actually say the allegiance. My girlfriend was worried that I'd start laughing when I affirmed allegiance to the queen, but I just broadly smiled, since after all, Paris is worth a mass.
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Re: Pledge Ceremony
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2005, 09:57:20 PM »

 One Asian guy came alone but he had a camera and the Vinnie Jones look-alike guard took the photograph for him!



That is so sweet.

My husband is going to send in his UKM tomorrow, we are very excited.

Johnnie, if I may ask, did your wife have an expired passport of her mother's to send?  (Ours was lost in tha mail so we're a tad nervous about it.)  Also, how long did it take between the time she mailed the documents and the time you guys got the call you mentioned in your other post?  I assume all went well and she is getting her certificate, or do you not know yet?  (If she is, congrats!  ;D)

This is step one for us-then we have to apply for visas for the children and ILR for me-we've been married 5 years in April so I qualify automatically for ILR!

I have to keep reminding my husband that he is legally entitled to citizenship, he's so nervous.  ;D


Re: Pledge Ceremony
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2005, 10:08:28 PM »
One word about the certificate. You have to send it in for the passport and they fold it! to fit in the envelope. It came back even more dissheveled from the UK Passport agency.

I've already handled one complaint about the folding business.  This person's certificate came back crudely folded across the royal foil and they were absolutely gutted about it. 

Manhandling someone's hard-earned naturalization certification is appalingly out of bounds, and it makes sense to lodge a *vociferous* complaint - given that they are insisting that it's an important event in someone's life.  Next time I'll cc the constituency office.

It really gets me annoyed....
« Last Edit: February 10, 2005, 10:13:09 PM by garry »


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Re: Pledge Ceremony
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2005, 10:12:10 PM »
I was upset about that folding thing too!  Garry, is there anywhere we plebs could complain about this?  I know it may not seem important to others but I was so excited to get my pretty certificate....folding it to sent away for the passport was rather disappointing.


Re: Pledge Ceremony
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2005, 10:20:38 PM »
Garry, is there anywhere we plebs could complain about this?  I know it may not seem important to others but I was so excited to get my pretty certificate....folding it to sent away for the passport was rather disappointing.

Yes!  Ordinary mortals might consider asking Leah or Wishstar to communicate to the Passport Office on behalf of the forum...

I'll be happy to draft it.


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Re: Pledge Ceremony
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2005, 06:14:15 PM »
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We did have an expired passport to send of my wifes mother. Good thing to, it seems to be important. We got a phone call about a week later asking for our marriage certificate. So we fedEx it to Washington. Im watching my credit card statement to see if the money has been charged.

We are located in Minnesota, where do these pledge ceremonie take place? Im assuming at the closest British Consulate?


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Re: Pledge Ceremony
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2005, 09:30:07 PM »
How much did you have to pay for your passport....
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Re: Pledge Ceremony
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2005, 08:55:12 AM »
How much did you have to pay for your passport....

You mean the British one?  I think it's about £45 or so.  Not too much really.

Johnnie, most of the ceremonies I know of have been held here in the UK.  I'd contact your local cosulate to see if they are doing them in the US at all.



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