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Bagels
« on: June 14, 2005, 07:24:02 PM »
does anyone know a source for bagels in the uk other than the frozen hockeypucks in ASDA and Tesco?


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Re: Bagels
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2005, 07:31:54 PM »
depends where you are ....I go to bakeries in golders green.  I think Tesco, M&S and Waitrose have OK one too...depends on how large your local one is though.
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Re: Bagels
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2005, 07:46:26 PM »
I gave up (no access to London) and now make my own!  :D
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Re: Bagels
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2005, 07:50:01 PM »
I gave up (no access to London) and now make my own!  :D

ohh they must be yummy then  :) I'm jealous
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Re: Bagels
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2005, 07:51:54 PM »
Well, it's actually Nigella Lawson's recipe but she modified it from a proper Jewish cookbook! I've totally converted DH. Now he knows what a REAL bagel is!  :)
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Re: Bagels
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2005, 07:58:40 PM »
found a recipe...haven't tried it yet  ...thinking of starting a bagel bakery in Broadstairs Kent....

Bagel recipe from: http://www.tastingmenu.com/recipes/favorites/bagels.htm [nofollow]

Ingredients
 
   1 cup lukewarm potato water (This is essentially the water left over from boiling potatoes. Covered, this will refrigerate for up to 3 days or frozen for up to 4 months. You can also dissolve 1½ tablespoons of potato flour in 1 cup of lukewarm water, but I haven’t tried this.)
   1 envelope of yeast
   1 tablespoon beaten egg
   3 tablespoons canola oil
   1 tablespoon malt syrup
   ~3 cups all-purpose flour
   2 tbsp granulated sugar
   1½ teaspoon Kosher salt
Poaching Liquid
   16 cups water
   1/3 cup honey
Glaze
   1 egg yolk
   1 tablespoon water
   poppy or sesame seeds
 
Instructions
 
   In a large bowl, dissolve 1 tablespoon of granulated sugar into the lukewarm potato water.
   Sprinkle the yeast on top and let it stand for 10 minutes or until it gets frothy.
   Stir the tablespoon of beaten egg, canola oil and malt syrup into the yeast/water mixture.
   Stir together 1 cup of the flour, 2 tablespoons of the sugar, and the kosher salt.
   Slowly beat these dry ingredients into the yeast mixture using an electric mixer until smooth. This should take about 2 minutes.
   Use a wooden spoon to gradually mix the remaining flour in to the mixture resulting in a soft sticky dough.
   On a lightly floured surface knead until the dough is smooth and stretchy. Make sure to get all the dry isolated flour spots worked out of the dough. This should take 5-10 minutes.
   Place the dough in a greased bowl, rotating the dough around the bowl so its outside is covered in the grease. Cover with plastic wrap (or wax paper with grease on it and a small towel).
   Allow the dough to rise for 1 to 1½ hours until the dough has doubled and you can poke your finger into it and leave a mark.
   Preheat your oven to 400 F.
   After rising, punch the dough down and knead it several times.
   Divide the dough into 10 pieces (the recipe originally called for 12 pieces, but my bagels were getting even too small for me. I may tweak the recipe to result in an even dozen). Keep the unformed dough and formed bagels covered when you’re not directly shaping them.
   There are two methods for shaping a bagel. One is to make a ball (don’t compress it too much) and poke your thumb through the center. You work your thumb (on the inside of the bagel) and your index finger (on the outside) all the way around the bagel until it’s formed. The other method which I prefer is to roll the dough into a long pipe and then wrap it horizontally around your hand using your fist as well as your other hand to seal it into a ring. The pipe of dough just barely wraps around my hand and I have to stretch it a bit. I like this method because the shapes end up more bagel-like, whereas for me, the first method results in more roll-like creations with small depressions in the middle.
   Place your bagels apart on a floured and covered baking sheet. Let them rise for 15 minutes.
   In the meantime, in a large pot, bring the water to a boil. Add the honey and stir. This is the poaching liquid.
   Gently slide your bagels into the water a few at a time into the water over a medium heat for 1 minute on each side. This is to proof them, they should be noticeably bigger than when they went into the water.
   Carefully remove the bagels onto parchment paper or a foil-lined greased baking sheet using a slotted spoon.
   Stir together the egg yolk and water and quickly brush over the bagels as they come out of the poaching liquid.
   Sprinkle with poppy or sesame seeds.
   Bake in the 400 degree oven for 20 to 25 minutes until the tops are golden brown and the bottoms sound hollow when tapped. Cool on a wire rack.


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Re: Bagels
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2005, 08:27:20 PM »


That sounds like a great recipe but I wonder if it would work in a bread machine?
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Re: Bagels
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2005, 08:34:39 PM »
it is a lot of work to bake 10 bagels  :-)


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Re: Bagels
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2005, 08:37:22 PM »
Twisted, if you want bread machine advise, PM vnicepeeps - she's Queen of breadmaking! But to answer your question, you could probably do everything up to the poaching bit.

Instead of the honey I add a tablespoon of sugar to the boiling water. This gives the bagel the glossy shine you expect. I don't bother with the egg glaze.


TRyan, homemade bagesl are worth every bit of work!! I'll compare my recipe to yours tomorrow and see if I get more bagels. I'm pretty sure I do so if so, will post the recipe. They also freeze very well.
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Re: Bagels
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2005, 08:40:21 PM »
sounds good balmerhon...i can't wait to get poaching and baking...time to get some cream cheese


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Re: Bagels
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2005, 08:47:14 PM »


Cheers! I'll have to give these a whirl this weekend. I LOVE freshly baked bagels.
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Re: Bagels
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2005, 08:55:24 PM »
Too much work for just me, but they sound fantastic!!!  I'll need to get a bagel from the little shop downstairs tomorrow now!

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