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Leaseholds - ever wonder who really owns the land?
« on: August 04, 2007, 11:19:03 PM »
I saw the other topic on leaseholds and thought I'd share this little factoid:  Much of London is still owned by just a handful of families.  When you buy a leasehold, you are merely renting land from these families.  Here's a few:

Gerald Grosvenor, the Duke of Westminster:  owns 100 acres of Mayfair and 200 acres of Belgravia.  When Estates Gazette Group published its first rich list last year, it valued the Duke's London estate at a £5.5 billion.

8th Earl Cadogan:  He can walk from Peter Jones to Harrods on his own land.   The estate, worth £1.275 billion, covers over 90 acres between Knightsbridge and Albert Bridge on the Thames, and includes Cheyne Walk, Cheyne Gardens, Cadogan Square and the newly developed Duke of York's Square on the King's Road. All of this land came into the family through marriage in the 18th century.

Viscount Portman, 45-year-old owner of the £1.07 billion Portman Estate.  His London spread, which dates back to the mid-16th century when Henry VIII gave the land to Lord Chief Justice Portman. The estate consists of 100 acres around Portman Square and Oxford Street (covering all the way from from Oxford Street going North to Baker Street tube).

Can you imagine?  You buy a house and you feel good about getting on the property ladder, some lucky people own one or two that they rent out.  These families own acres of land in central London!

Puts in  all back in perspective, massive amounts of wealth in the hands of just a few.


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Re: Leaseholds - ever wonder who really owns the land?
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2007, 12:02:15 AM »
Just found an article that mapped out the Portman Estate:  in tube terms Marble Arch east to Bond Street north to Baker Street west to Edgeware Road and then south back to Marble Arch.  Not a bad stretch of properties to own.


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Re: Leaseholds - ever wonder who really owns the land?
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2007, 09:58:27 AM »
Wow, that's very interesting.  Thanks for posting that.


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Re: Leaseholds - ever wonder who really owns the land?
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2007, 12:08:52 PM »
WOW! Just wow.

It feels good to know I am up there with them. Not that I am wealthy, just I am a land owner too.
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Re: Leaseholds - ever wonder who really owns the land?
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2007, 01:01:02 PM »
Hiya

I recently read a report in MSN Money ( i think!) and it had a article on how wealth is distributed throughout the UK and the demographics of the owners.

I think something like 55% of all the wealth owned in the UK is by people who live south of Watford!

Another aspect was I think it's 75% of the wealth owned is by the over 55's.

There is definitley a very large divide between the Super rich and the next lot - say the 4 million or so high rate taxpayers. The vast bulk of the UK's workforce and next demographic ie standard rate taxpayers are the ones making the super rich get richer - indirectly of course!

Does make you wonder at all those multi million pound houses that are everywhere and of course how the owners even move up the ladder into an even more expensive place!

Cheers! DtM! West London & Slough UK!


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Re: Leaseholds - ever wonder who really owns the land?
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2007, 03:32:58 PM »
It may not be much, but at least my little 200 x 35 ft. or so piece of land is all mine.   :)
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