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Re: Can we get by without a car?
« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2008, 08:55:22 PM »
Ditto!!!

How can this not be allowed??? You're leaving work for the day,  the company doesn't own you and you can wear whatever you want on your way home!

It was the same company that I worked for in New York, just an office in a different city. Who knows?


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Re: Can we get by without a car?
« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2008, 09:04:15 PM »
I imagine she meant that it was more "taboo" than actually not allowed- at least I would hope so!
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Re: Can we get by without a car?
« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2008, 09:05:44 PM »
I used to work for a conservative securities firm and go and get changed for my Bikram yoga class after work, as the ashram was just a couple of blocks down and had a changing room the size of a stamp.


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Re: Can we get by without a car?
« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2008, 02:40:09 AM »
Maybe you can go without a car or maybe not. ;D
Just to get back to the thread.


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Re: Can we get by without a car?
« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2008, 11:16:42 AM »
I couldn't get by without a car because I live 20 miles from where I work and theres no easy means to get there by public transport (I once checked it out and figured it would be at least 2 hours each way)

So it depends on where you are located in relation to work, leisure etc, I'd say that if I actually worked in the town where I live that I could get by without a car. I'm a 5 min walk from the town centre, a little further to the train station. I walk to the supermarket, occasionally when I want a lot of bulky items then I'll do a trip in the car, but then you could either have an online delivery for those occasions or supermarkets have a phone near the exit, I've seen ones that have a phone which is just straight through to a local taxi firm, and many people get a taxi to get back home with their groceries, so that's an option if you suddenly find you've bought so much that you can't carry it!
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Re: Can we get by without a car?
« Reply #50 on: May 17, 2008, 08:51:35 PM »
Why don't people live close to were they work?
I know the answer and there are many but with the cost involved maybe people should consider that option.
It use to be that way 50 years ago.
On the farm, in Lancashire I went to, the farm laborer lived 200 feet from the farm.  He looked like he was 80 years old but he was able to walk home after work.
2008 isn't 1908 thats for sure.


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Re: Can we get by without a car?
« Reply #51 on: May 17, 2008, 09:35:12 PM »
Why don't people live close to were they work?

Because there may not be any jobs for which they are qualified near where they live, and they may not be able to afford to live where the jobs are.



Re: Can we get by without a car?
« Reply #52 on: May 18, 2008, 12:04:50 AM »
Why don't people live close to were they work?
I know the answer and there are many but with the cost involved maybe people should consider that option.
It use to be that way 50 years ago.
On the farm, in Lancashire I went to, the farm laborer lived 200 feet from the farm.  He looked like he was 80 years old but he was able to walk home after work.
2008 isn't 1908 thats for sure.

because we can't afford rents close to places of employment and the difference is so great, especially when you factor in council tax, that it's cheaper to run the old banger. 

and the schools are better out here without having to go private or pay thousands/month in rent or mortgage.  no need to worry about little Johnny going to Thug High to earn a diploma in knife-dodging and drug-dealing.

in 2008, that farmer is a tenant whose margins are being cut into by supermarkets demanding he provide to them at lower and lower costs or be unable to get rid of his commodity at all.  his kids have seen him struggling to eek out an existence and emigrated to Australia, after all, there's nothing to inherit in the vast majority of cases since 70+% of British farmers are tenants.

after he dies, Mr Landlord realises he can try to find another sucker willing to do the job and that he, Mr Landlord, may have a tough time getting the rent out of him if foot and mouth or blue tongue comes in again or there's a wet year or floods.

or he can sell the land off to Mr Developer who just got picked up to be showcased on Property Ladder or Grand Designs to build 4 exclusive f*^& off huge luxury homes on the same parcel of land.  Mr Developer will pay the landlord millions for this parcel.

which do you suppose Mr Landlord will chose?

or let's move to the city of 2008.

Mr Developer there realises he can earn far more profit on flats instead of housing built to accommodate more than a talking Potbelly Pig and his pet rabbit, even if those flats sit empty.

Mr Councillor also realises there's something in it for him, too.  So instead of being strict about building housing for families so they can live closer to areas of work, he takes a thick brown envelope and Mr Developer gets permission to build 200 flats on a postage stamp and call them an opportunity in apartment living.

Mr BTL landlord also realises there's something in this for him, too.  So he buys some of these flats from Mr Developer.  His mortgage won't allow anyone who's even in partial receipt of housing benefit or whose income comes partially from Working Tax Credit or Child Tax Credit, so Mr and Mrs Working Poor won't be letting from him.  Doesn't matter, even if it sits empty, it probably won't lose money so long as Mr BTL can pay the mortgage or business loan.

so Mr and Mrs Working Poor, who are ineligble for the limited amount of social housing available or face wait lists of years and possibly decades because they work and are together, need to start looking farther and farther afield for a place to live and join the trail along with Mr and Mrs Just Getting By and Mr and Ms We're-sick-of-living-with-inconsiderate-neighbours-on-all-four-sides-of us and Mr and Mrs-we-downsized-but-still-can't-afford-a-decent-ground-floor-flat/home-to-do-us-for-our-upcoming-old-age.

that, in a nutshell, is why more and more people no longer live so close to work.


Re: Can we get by without a car?
« Reply #53 on: May 18, 2008, 06:46:14 AM »
Why don't people live close to were they work?
I know the answer and there are many but with the cost involved maybe people should consider that option.

if you know the answer, then why did you ask?

If it were that easy, I'm sure more people would live close to where they work.


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Re: Can we get by without a car?
« Reply #54 on: May 18, 2008, 06:02:22 PM »
I'd love to live closer, you wanna give me 850+ a month so that I can?


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Re: Can we get by without a car?
« Reply #55 on: May 18, 2008, 06:51:49 PM »
if you know the answer, then why did you ask?

If it were that easy, I'm sure more people would live close to where they work.
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