Chris Brown and Rihanna: your thoughts on this

I am sure most people have already seen this. But this morning I went looking for the actual affidavit. This guy needs more than help. I can't even imagine how scary this was for her.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0305093brown1.html  (the affidavit)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7892119.stm(the story)

I am just wondering what everyones thoughts are on this subject.
Do you think he will get the correct sentence, or do you think he will/should get lienency because of his celebrity status.
Personally I see him as another OJ Simpson, and Rhianna was just lucky enough he didn't take it to the next level.
I think he should be locked up for a long time, given some anger management counseling...and sent on his way.
As much as I would want it not to, this will probably help his record sales.

Isn't she back together with him?

It took my SIL 12 years to leave her abusive partner, the father of her 2 sons.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_7890000/newsid_7891900/7891937.stm (the story)

It might be worth linking to the story here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7892119.stm, as the link you posted above is the one for the Children's BBC news site which is aimed at 6-12 year olds and only gives a watered-down, child-friendly version of the story (i.e. CBBC: 'Singer Chris Brown has said he's sorry after he was arrested because police think he attacked a woman' vs. BBC: 'Chris Brown is "sorry and saddened" by his arrest on suspicion of attacking a woman and is seeking counselling, he has said in a statement.') .

It might be worth linking to the story here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7892119.stm, as the link you posted above is the one for the Children's BBC news site which is aimed at 6-12 year olds and only gives a watered-down, child-friendly version of the story (i.e. CBBC: 'Singer Chris Brown has said he's sorry after he was arrested because police think he attacked a woman' vs. BBC: 'Chris Brown is "sorry and saddened" by his arrest on suspicion of attacking a woman and is seeking counselling, he has said in a statement.') .

Thanks ..I completely didn't even check to see which site it was on...
Changed it...

Anyways.. She says she will not testify against him. I am assuming that means she might be back with this jerk, or she has sympathy for him. I think her family or friends need to step in and remind her that he didn't care while he heat the "crap" out of her.

I'm sorry, but I just don't see the basis for making judgments about someone "famous" based solely on whatever has been reported in the media.

The only two people in this situation who know what really happened and what's really going on are the two people in the relationship.  In this case we're talking about two very young, famous, and monied people.   With all the publicity surrounding this case, I'm quite certain that Rhianna has been inundated with "advice" from those looking to be helpful who have simply no idea what they're talking about.

I'm not condoning his actions in any way shape or form.  But statements like these:

Anyways.. She says she will not testify against him. I am assuming that means she might be back with this jerk, or she has sympathy for him. I think her family or friends need to step in and remind her that he didn't care while he heat the "crap" out of her.

make a series of dangerous assumptions about the situation as well.  What if there is enough evidence against him that there is no need for her to testify?  What if testifying would cause her more emotional trauma?  What if she's been counseled by her legal team not to testify for fear of incriminating herself somehow?  How is judging that bit of information one way or the other productive?

We don't know them or their relationship.  Inevitably we color our view of what's going on through the lens of our own personal experience.  We're also talking about someone who certainly has the resources and likely now the education about domestic abuse to make an informed decision, but is young and famous and rich with all the trappings and pitfalls attached.

We've all made our own decisions in our own lives that might not have been the best for our mental, physical or emotional health.  Why should one person be pilloried for the same kind of mistakes (if it indeed turns out to be true and a mistake) that we ourselves have made simply because they are famous?  Being rich and/or famous doesn't get you out of being human - and that applies to both people involved here.

I'm sorry, but I just don't see the basis for making judgments about someone "famous" based solely on whatever has been reported in the media.

The only two people in this situation who know what really happened and what's really going on are the two people in the relationship.  In this case we're talking about two very young, famous, and monied people.   With all the publicity surrounding this case, I'm quite certain that Rhianna has been inundated with "advice" from those looking to be helpful who have simply no idea what they're talking about.

I'm not condoning his actions in any way shape or form.  But statements like these:

make a series of dangerous assumptions about the situation as well.  What if there is enough evidence against him that there is no need for her to testify?  What if testifying would cause her more emotional trauma?  What if she's been counseled by her legal team not to testify for fear of incriminating herself somehow?  How is judging that bit of information one way or the other productive?

We don't know them or their relationship.  Inevitably we color our view of what's going on through the lens of our own personal experience.  We're also talking about someone who certainly has the resources and likely now the education about domestic abuse to make an informed decision, but is young and famous and rich with all the trappings and pitfalls attached.

We've all made our own decisions in our own lives that might not have been the best for our mental, physical or emotional health.  Why should one person be pilloried for the same kind of mistakes (if it indeed turns out to be true and a mistake) that we ourselves have made simply because they are famous?  Being rich and/or famous doesn't get you out of being human - and that applies to both people involved here.

You did click on the link with the afadavit right? Do you need pictures too, to  believe he beat her up? And being rich and famous will more than likely get him out of a tougher sentence.
He might even end up in Lompoc Prison aka "The Countryclub."
 In my opinion, I think the courts should be tougher on celebrities now-a-days. Maybe if the abuser thought he would lose everything, the abuser would be less likely to ball up his fists next time.
He should be charged a second time as well, for disobeying a protection order when he decided to text her, however appologetic he was.

As for her making her own decisions. You're right she has every capability to make whatever decision she wants to in regards to her well being. But I am sure at points in everyone's lives, in hindsite you wished someone would have stepped in and reasoned with you. Someone telling her to stear clear wouldn't just benefit her, but him as well.

My thoughts are that this thread has 'internet libel' written all over it, and is best avoided like the plague!

Vicky

worse than say the prince harry thread that everyone was so keen on replying on...

Give me a break.

Being in an abusive relationship kills the soul and takes a long time to get over completely (if ever). For the abuser, it takes years of therapy and anger management to fully be able to enter into another relationship and not be considered a 'risk'. All of this 'I'm sorry, I won't do it again' is nonsense and is just part of the 3 phases of abuse (honeymoon phase). He'll beat her again, as is the norm in these situations.

My heart goes out to all victims of abuse, as it's so difficult to leave (physically and mentally). It doesn't normally start with full on violence, but more a gradual demeaning of the person until they are under the abuser's control and feel that they aren't worthy of anything better :\\\'( Very, very sad that there are millions of victims in every society and social class.