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Re: Applying to grad school in London
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2009, 03:21:28 PM »
You can indeed work up to 20 hours (at least now, though they change immigration rules all the time). It can be hard to get a really good job however, even in London, since a lot of places don't want to deal with either student workers or applicants with visas. You should check out temp agencies, an office job would probably pay 8-10 pounds/hr. A retail or restaurant job would be 6-8 pounds/hr. I don't think it's too hard to get a restaurant job in London (pubs are more fun to work at but you don't get any tips). I actually found it really helpful waitressing during my masters because while the base pay was only about 6 quid/hour I also got tips, free food, very flexible shifts, etc.

If you want to try to get any kind of editorial work here (which I do now, and which pays much better!) you'll have to show you can deal with British English spelling, punctuation, etc. (it is really easy to pick up, you can use it for your academic papers so you have written examples to show people)

I really wouldn't worry so much about showing that you're "unique". I think that's more a concern for American schools, finding unique and well-rounded individuals, etc. Here, I think it's more about -- can this person do the work? are they really interested in this subject? what would they do with this degree? what would they add to the program?

As a TA I constantly tell students the first rule of an essay is: answer the question. I know it seems obvious, but if you find yourself struggling to come up with something brilliant, go back and really look at the question posed to you. If it's something like, why do you want to join this program and what do you hope to get out of it, then they probably don't want 500 words on your personal trajectory since high school -- you can sum up very briefly your ability to overcome personal challenges and/or mistakes and go on to a more forward-looking statement.

Forgive me if I'm overstepping but -- while I do have a great deal of admiration for the way you have worked so hard and come so far, I don't think it's necessarily helpful to think this is the only "unique" thing you can present about yourself. Your posts show a great deal of enthusiasm and curiosity about the wider world, a desire to fully immerse yourself in a foreign culture, a great interest in your academic field, etc. I think these are the kind of positive qualities that would be great to highlight -- and then you can say that you are confident in your motivation and ability to do the work given how hard you have worked previously to overcome the challenges in your life.

(I say this as someone who came from a rather poor/dysfunctional background myself, I think even when it's a really important part of your story you still need to make it relevant to people. What have you learned from that experience that you would apply to future studies? Does it have any particular relevance for what you're studying? Basically, why do you think it's important that people know this about you? Obviously it shows great strength of character, but you're still applying for an academic post, and I think for UK postgrad they care a lot more about your capabilities than your overall character.)

Anyway, I say, why not apply to Oxford? I told myself there was no way I would get in, and then when I got here and met students both at my uni and at Oxford I thought, geez, I totally should have applied...


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Re: Applying to grad school in London
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2009, 07:36:47 PM »
As far as I'm aware, the student visa allows full-time students to work up to 20 hours, and I intend on getting a job wherever I can. I can stay in a tiny shack if I have to as well, that doesn't bother me; I'll be at the library all the time anyways. Then there's my savings, which "should" be at $25,000 before I leave. So I'm thinking/hoping that my savings + a couple of loans + working should be more than enough, and look that way for everyone concerned as far as admissions and visas goes.

While you can work while you are studying, in order to be granted the visa in the first place, you must show that you meet the maintenance requirements for the visa without needing to work - for London, you need a minimum of £7,200 ($12,000) for living costs plus one year of tuition fees... about £13,500 ($22,000) for UCL - so you'll have to show evidence that you have at least $34,000 available to you  on the day you apply for the visa (i.e. personal savings and/or loans).

Once you arrive in the UK you can work up to 20 hours a week during term-time, but this must be supplemental money on top of the maintenance funds you will have already proved for the visa.

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And thanks to everyone for the positive notes about being accepted; you make me almost want to give Oxford or Cambridge a shot just for the hell of it. Although I don't think I'd go even if I got in, since it'd be hard to maintain a healthy medium between social life/academic life at those schools, as fine as they are, I want a multi-faceted experience. But damn, it'd be awesome to frame an acceptance letter.

I say apply to Oxbridge if you want to - the worst they can do is turn you down :). When I was applying to masters programmes back in 2005, I applied to Bristol, Leeds and UCL and got accepted to all of them (I went to Bristol in the end - UCL was too expensive for me and the department at Bristol was ranked 2nd in the country for research at the time :P)... I'm a UK citizen with a mid-2:1 degree (65% average) - as a comparison, I studied in the US for a year during the degree and had a GPA of 3.3 when I was there.


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Re: Applying to grad school in London
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2009, 09:07:48 PM »
While you can work while you are studying, in order to be granted the visa in the first place, you must show that you meet the maintenance requirements for the visa without needing to work - for London, you need a minimum of £7,200 ($12,000) for living costs plus one year of tuition fees... about £13,500 ($22,000) for UCL - so you'll have to show evidence that you have at least $34,000 available to you  on the day you apply for the visa (i.e. personal savings and/or loans).

Once you arrive in the UK you can work up to 20 hours a week during term-time, but this must be supplemental money on top of the maintenance funds you will have already proved for the visa.

I say apply to Oxbridge if you want to - the worst they can do is turn you down :). When I was applying to masters programmes back in 2005, I applied to Bristol, Leeds and UCL and got accepted to all of them (I went to Bristol in the end - UCL was too expensive for me and the department at Bristol was ranked 2nd in the country for research at the time :P)... I'm a UK citizen with a mid-2:1 degree (65% average) - as a comparison, I studied in the US for a year during the degree and had a GPA of 3.3 when I was there.

Just a quick note, he'll need to show that he has had the funds for 28 days now. http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/howtoapply/infs/inf29pbsstudent

"On a course of more than 9 months you will be required to show that you have the first year of the tuition fees plus either £7200 or £5400 depending on whether you intend to study inside or outside of the Inner London Boroughs (see below). These amounts must be held in your personal bank account or your parent(s) / legal guardians bank account for a minimum period of 28 days. The end of that 28 day period must not be more than one month before the date of your application, for which you must show bank statements / other evidence."
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Re: Applying to grad school in London
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2009, 09:59:52 AM »
Well I'm still working! It's been the hardest thing I've ever had to write! Considering I graduated with an English degree, that's saying something! But, I hear it's pretty common to go through this. I just hope once I finally perfect this first statement for UCL, that it'll be easier to do it for other schools, since the programs are so different and I'll have to tailor them to each. Well, I've been up way too long and can no longer think/write straight.

One last thing: King's College recommends overseas applicants to use the call center when doing their application. Has anyone here applied to King's College? Is it really necessary? How easy is it to mess up a small portion of your application and how badly will it hurt you?

Gosh I'm just getting so excited. I'm glad I made a "mental decision" a few weeks ago, because it's making all the difficult things about leaving get easier as I start to cope with the idea, and I'm just getting more and more excited! I know the difficulty I think I'm overcoming now isn't anything compared to how it'll really be, but I'm betting on the excitement/busy schedule to keep me occupied long enough for me to adapt! How long did it take you all to adapt from being away from family and make new friends and make a new home?


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Re: Applying to grad school in London
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2009, 10:11:35 AM »
I was in university housing with 3 other postgrads at the start of my Ph.D. and joined several societies straight away. I has good friends within a couple of weeks and was with my boyfriend within a month and a half of landing! I think in a university setting here it's quite easy to get involved and meet people.
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Re: Applying to grad school in London
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2009, 04:13:24 AM »
Yey me! I sent in my UCL: English: Issues in Modern Culture application today! My first grad school application is in! I probably should have saved UCL for last, since it's my #1 pick, but I feel great about getting one in! I canceled my GRE test date so I HAVE to apply to 8-10 schools in U.K. since I can't go to school in the United States now.

Am I silly to be paranoid that the transcripts I uploaded were unofficial (that's the only way to upload them like they want) and that I uploaded a copy of my bachelors? I mean, what's to worry, everyone has to do it that way right? I just feel like they might think people's stuff is fake sometimes if the university happens to have ugly transcripts. Also my passport name is John and my name on all my school is Johnny, it's inconsistent! I am so paranoid lol!

Any recommendations for English or possibly Philosophy schools since I decided I want to apply to 8-10 (hey what the hell, most are free unlike $150 U.S. apps!) I'd love any more suggestions in London in case I missed any Uni's, otherwise I'd like a place that has a big city at least 40 minutes away, but it can otherwise be a pretty calm/small town. Anything like that, like Durham?

I decided I want to apply to Durham for sure, so far I have.

University College London
King's College London
Queen Mary London
City University London
London School of Economics
Durham University

I wouldn't mind even 4-6 more. LSE is about a 1% chance since I'm applying to philosophy, but don't have a philosophy bachelors. Ideally I have the time to fill out all these applications, so I'd want to fill out at least maybe 3 philosophy applications (2 with average schools since no degree) and 3 GOOD English programs like UCL/King's, then at least 2 average english programs and 2 safe programs. At UCL I can apply twice, philosophy and english.

I had another great school that I found on this list, but now I can't remember...

http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_gug/gooduniversityguide.php?AC_sub=Philosophy&x=38&y=14&sub=50

Take a look and throw out some recommendations of places that'd be great to study based on me, would appreciate it from people who know so much more about London/U.K. than I do! I look at this list and have no idea where anything is so I have to randomly click and can't learn about every single one!
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Re: Applying to grad school in London
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2009, 12:55:33 PM »
Yey me! I sent in my UCL: English: Issues in Modern Culture application today! My first grad school application is in! I probably should have saved UCL for last, since it's my #1 pick, but I feel great about getting one in! I canceled my GRE test date so I HAVE to apply to 8-10 schools in U.K. since I can't go to school in the United States now.

Am I silly to be paranoid that the transcripts I uploaded were unofficial (that's the only way to upload them like they want) and that I uploaded a copy of my bachelors? I mean, what's to worry, everyone has to do it that way right? I just feel like they might think people's stuff is fake sometimes if the university happens to have ugly transcripts. Also my passport name is John and my name on all my school is Johnny, it's inconsistent! I am so paranoid lol!

Any recommendations for English or possibly Philosophy schools since I decided I want to apply to 8-10 (hey what the hell, most are free unlike $150 U.S. apps!) I'd love any more suggestions in London in case I missed any Uni's, otherwise I'd like a place that has a big city at least 40 minutes away, but it can otherwise be a pretty calm/small town. Anything like that, like Durham?

I decided I want to apply to Durham for sure, so far I have.

University College London
King's College London
Queen Mary London
City University London
London School of Economics
Durham University

I wouldn't mind even 4-6 more. LSE is about a 1% chance since I'm applying to philosophy, but don't have a philosophy bachelors. Ideally I have the time to fill out all these applications, so I'd want to fill out at least maybe 3 philosophy applications (2 with average schools since no degree) and 3 GOOD English programs like UCL/King's, then at least 2 average english programs and 2 safe programs. At UCL I can apply twice, philosophy and english.

I had another great school that I found on this list, but now I can't remember...

http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_gug/gooduniversityguide.php?AC_sub=Philosophy&x=38&y=14&sub=50

Take a look and throw out some recommendations of places that'd be great to study based on me, would appreciate it from people who know so much more about London/U.K. than I do! I look at this list and have no idea where anything is so I have to randomly click and can't learn about every single one!

If the school has questions about your documentation, they will contact you. No school has ever cared if the transcripts I sent were sealed or what not. Just RELAX!
09/29/09--Visa Approved!
10/05/09--Leave for the UK!!!
06/15/12--Back in the US indefinitely...


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