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Update on the cost of things in the UK
« on: August 27, 2010, 03:05:25 AM »
Price of Petrol today in the UK and in US dollars.

£1.14 per litre. Sound about right?

4 litres to a gallon. Not quite that much.=3.785

$1.554 to the £. maybe.

=$6.69

=$80.28 to fill the tank (12 gallon) $33.46 in the US. I'll pay the UK amount and have SHC.

Lots of guesses here?

Answer to the question, can I afford a car? Sure if you want one bad enough and drive about 400 miles a month.

Now to find out about diesel?

Just found this:

"Some things are more expensive in the UK and some things are cheaper and it sometimes depends on how you look at it. With most goods, you can expect them to cost the same in pounds as they do in dollars, ie. cd cost $13.99 in US, and costs IRO £13.99 in the UK, but if you consider the exchange rate, you’re paying over $20 for a cd here. This is not always the case, and things are improving as consumers are demanding to pay the same as other countries. One area in which the UK costs are terrible is petrol (gasoline) prices. They’re currently near £1 per litre. That’s near £4 per gallon, with exchange rate near $7.00 per gallon! These prices are largely due to tax."

($6.20 based on $1.55 to the £.)

Do you agree on these prices?

Prices in general: milk : 87p per 2 litres; bread : 45-75p per loaf; eggs : £1.39 per doz; gas/petrol(sky high for the taxes) Petrol : 93p per litre, Diesel : 81p per litre (5 litres to a gallon); cigarettes : £4.50 pack of 20, give or take 50p depending on your brand of choice; you’ll find utility prices discussed elsewhere in the site (Home and Housing).

Milk about the same.
Bread is cheap in the UK as long as it is fresh loaf.
Eggs about right.
This says 5 litres to the gallon. UK gallon?

Sorry can't get away from comparison shopping.
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Re: Update on the cost of things in the UK
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2010, 02:33:11 PM »
One thing I've found just from our brief 2 weeks here so far with the regards to food costs is that, yes, things are sometimes a bit more expensive here in the U.K. but the quality of food here in the UK is miles ahead of food in the States. Even the basic supermarket brands of foods are of a better quality than any of the low-priced generic goods I bought in the States prior to our move.

I'm happy to pay a bit more for food since I know I'm getting such good quality out of that price.


Re: Update on the cost of things in the UK
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2010, 03:03:17 PM »
I don't know about the own brands being better here, but I may have been spoilt having really good grocery shops.  Most of the places I've lived have had fairly decent grocers with decent own brands, and the last few years I lived in the States I lived in Wegmans territory.  If anything, Wegmans' own brand is better than branded items a lot of the time.  

Here, I avoid a lot of own brand unless I know it's good.  An exception would be the premium own brand (which is something I encountered in the States as well).

As for the original question, I don't know.  Are you planning to move here soon, Cheers?  There are other options than owning your own car like membership clubs (like Zipcar).  We do pretty well without one, but my husband now is leaning towards me getting my UK licence so we can do something like Zipcar for certain errands.  

I guess it depends on where you live, but if you're living in a built up area, there's usually a lot of public transport.  A lot of places deliver.  You might not need a car, and I would figure petrol prices absolutely last in figuring out the cost of living.

Bread here in greater London is usually £1-2.  Gregg's sells it pretty cheap.  You can get deals on sliced bread like Hovis.  I can't give you an idea on milk as I buy organic and we tend to buy small bottles as we don't use it that much.  Butter is around £1 for 250 grams, give or take 20p.  Eggs depend on what you get will probably be more expensive, but the UK is moving away from using battery hens.  And since the standard under the EU for free range are a lot stricter than the US's "cage free", it's not easy to compare.  I am thinking that I spend £2-3 on a dozen free range woodland eggs.  

I do agree that the quality of processed food is slightly better here, but I don't tend to buy a tonne of it.  When we do pick up "American food" it's always shocking to see how fake it tastes.  I would say that a lot of whole ingredients are about on equal footing, although there are some things better here and vice versa.

We are not typical, but I would say our food bill has gone up about 25-30% since moving here compared to when we were both in the US together.  I do, however, buy things like meat from an independent butcher and have to cater to my husband's need for junk food in his lunch (something I never included in the grocery bill at home).

Some things are a lot cheaper.  Cable's cheaper.  The phone bill's cheaper.  Internet's cheaper.  Electric's not. Heating is about the same, but it's not as cold here.  So yeah, heating is probably more per unit. You also have to factor in things like the fact you won't need to pay for insurance.  You won't be covered by Medicare here, so there's no sense in continuing to pay for it.  

Ultimately, you have to decide whether you want to come home enough to make the leap and risk paying a bit more (or less) for your cost of living.
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Re: Update on the cost of things in the UK
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2010, 03:04:03 PM »
Price of Petrol today in the UK and in US dollars.

£1.14 per litre. Sound about right?


£1.14 is a bit lower than what I've been paying, but I am sure thats about right for someone's area.



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Re: Update on the cost of things in the UK
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2010, 03:12:25 PM »
£1.14 is a bit lower than what I've been paying, but I am sure thats about right for someone's area.

The petrol at the ASDA near me is down to £1.10 per litre as of a couple of days ago :)!


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Re: Update on the cost of things in the UK
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2010, 03:21:27 PM »
The petrol at the ASDA near me is down to £1.10 per litre as of a couple of days ago :)!

Wow! I live in the wrong area!


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Re: Update on the cost of things in the UK
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2010, 03:25:01 PM »
Wow! I live in the wrong area!

It's only that one garage that has the price so low (that I know of)... the Tesco round the corner from my house is at £1.16  ::).


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Re: Update on the cost of things in the UK
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2010, 03:42:44 PM »
Kinda of subject but wondering this...
DH went to get petrol.gas at BP and it was £1.18 and I said no way...Morrison's is £1.11 and Asda was £1.12 he said it isn't all real gas...You get less MPG because it is "green" and has some flower in it or something?

Anyone have a clue what he meant and if this is true?


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Re: Update on the cost of things in the UK
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2010, 05:55:08 PM »
Wow! I live in the wrong area!
Yes but you live in a high rent area ;D (a US term)


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Re: Update on the cost of things in the UK
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2010, 06:08:20 PM »
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Prices in general: milk : 87p per 2 litres; bread : 45-75p per loaf; eggs : £1.39 per doz; gas/petrol(sky high for the taxes) Petrol : 93p per litre, Diesel : 81p per litre (5 litres to a gallon); cigarettes : £4.50 pack of 20, give or take 50p depending on your brand of choice; you’ll find utility prices discussed elsewhere in the site (Home and Housing).

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Cigarettes are £6.13 (give or take a smidge) for 20 for name brands.


Re: Update on the cost of things in the UK
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2010, 08:01:31 PM »
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Do you agree on these prices?

Prices in general: milk : 87p per 2 litres; bread : 45-75p per loaf; eggs : £1.39 per doz; gas/petrol(sky high for the taxes) Petrol : 93p per litre, Diesel : 81p per litre (5 litres to a gallon); cigarettes : £4.50 pack of 20, give or take 50p depending on your brand of choice;

No. Our local prices (Derby):

Milk: £1.53 for 2L

Bread: £1.35

Eggs (18) £1.69

Petrol: £1.139/l

Diesel: £1.159/l

Cigs (non name brand): £5.19


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Re: Update on the cost of things in the UK
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2010, 01:28:37 PM »
Hi Cheers,

Lets kick off by straightening a few of your assumptions!

1 UK liquid Gallon = 4.54 litres.
1 US liquid Gallon = 3.78 litres

Now take a look at the much more price variable US fuel pricing map

http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx

We in the UK have a much narrower variance in 'most' parts of the country

http://www.petrolprices.com/

Look at the average price of petrol in the UK £1.15 per litre. A UK gallon costs £5.22. That in USD is $8.09 USD. However, as US gallons are smaller - it means it costs £4.34 to buy the equivalent of a US gallon in the UK. In USD that is $6.73. The most expensive US price of petrol is $3.19 - so less than half price still in the most expensive petrol in the US!! - lets look at an average priced US area/state. That then drops to $2.60 ish and the cheapest being just $2.31 - around 66% cheaper!

Diesel - Not as popular in the USA for passenger cars as yet, but gaining a foothold - just take a look at the reviews of the USA spec BMW 335d. Here in the UK, Diesel is very popular due to the extra MPG gained per litre of fuel cost. Diesel 'really' only makes sense if you do high miles per year - upwards of 15-18K miles to have the best savings. In a small city car, less savings as they tend to do less miles and the MPG isn't as significant as the engine isn't at optimum operating temperature. So in 'real' terms, all these Diesel city cars around, in the real world don't make so much of savings - the adverts shout 60+mpg, but they don't tell you the smaller difference in city driving compared to their petrol equivalent models.

Looks like you are substantially off the price of a packet of 20 ciggies - I don't know those prices as I don't smoke.

Food pricing and daily essentials do and can vary quite a bit up and down the country and where you buy from etc.

Other examples given are higher level - internet is cheaper - could be - depends which service you go for etc. Same with phone service etc. Another mention of food being of a higher quality here - that makes me chuckle, as the UK is well regarded as pretty dire in food standards and quality compared to some of our neighbouring European cousins! Oonablah..  may I suggest you hop on a plane to Amsterdam, and give your taste buds a treat at 'La Place' (pronounced La Plass) - or ask for Orange Juice at a pub ;)

Jennbean - on various other car related forums, there are people who are car nut's like me, who work in the Petro Chemical industry as scientists etc and they'll tell you, the fuel out of the supermarkets is the same as what you'd find in the premium brand places. It's the 'super' or higher octane stuff which does have differences with additives etc as compared to regular petrol.

Cheers, DtM! West London & Slough UK!





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Re: Update on the cost of things in the UK
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2010, 06:34:45 PM »
It's the 'super' or higher octane stuff which does have differences with additives etc as compared to regular petrol.

Cheers, DtM! West London & Slough UK!

So what are octanes in the UK?
Do they add corn??? to the fuel? (forgot what they call it)


Re: Update on the cost of things in the UK
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2010, 06:59:10 PM »
So what are octanes in the UK?
Do they add corn??? to the fuel? (forgot what they call it)

It's Ethanol...and it varies from season to season...you'll often see a spike in US fuel prices (especially in California) when they make the change from winter blend to a summer blend which is supposed to be cleaner burning because of the added ethanol.

At least this is what our fuel distributor told me when I worked at a gas station to pay my way through Uni in Cali.
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