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Moving from US to UK?
« on: June 27, 2011, 02:08:31 AM »
I didn't know what thread to post this under so if this is the wrong place just let me know and I will move it somewhere new.
Anyways, I live in the US and am currently in my third year of college studying for my bachelors degrees in biology and chemistry, here in the US this is the first step to med school. I have my 3rd and 4th year left for my bachelors, then I would be moving on to med school in the US. However, it has always been a dream of mine to live in the UK, so I have recently been contemplating the move to med school in the UK.
I was wondering what this would entail and if there are any other people who have done this that maybe I could talk to so I can see how it went for them.
Also what does moving from the US to the UK entail? And are people generally happy with their move?
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Moving from US to UK?
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2011, 02:29:56 AM »
I didn't know what thread to post this under so if this is the wrong place just let me know and I will move it somewhere new.
Anyways, I live in the US and am currently in my third year of college studying for my bachelors degrees in biology and chemistry, here in the US this is the first step to med school. I have my 3rd and 4th year left for my bachelors, then I would be moving on to med school in the US. However, it has always been a dream of mine to live in the UK, so I have recently been contemplating the move to med school in the UK.
I was wondering what this would entail and if there are any other people who have done this that maybe I could talk to so I can see how it went for them.
Also what does moving from the US to the UK entail? And are people generally happy with their move?
Thanks!


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Re: Moving from US to UK?
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2011, 03:03:44 AM »
Please help! I can;t get anyone on any forum to help me!


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Re: Moving from US to UK?
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2011, 03:13:12 AM »
It is 3 am in the UK.  You cannot expect to get answers to your questions within the hour in the middle of the night and you won't endear yourself to others if you do demand this level of attention to your query.

Google - international student uk university - to find out how to get a place.
Then google UKBA student visa - to find out how to get a visa.

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Re: Moving from US to UK?
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2011, 03:36:25 AM »
Sorry, guess I didn't think about the time difference   :-\\\\ My bad!


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Re: Moving from US to UK?
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2011, 08:07:40 AM »
US and UK medical schools are vastly different.  UK students basically go straight to med school as an undergrad. 

There are courses you can take after you've done a different degree, but I think there has been some debate on here as to whether people who are not eligible for home fees can take them because they are subsidised. 

 


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Re: Moving from US to UK?
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2011, 08:09:09 AM »
No need to post the same thing in multiple threads.  People will come along shortly.


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Re: Moving from US to UK?
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2011, 08:27:42 PM »
You will also need to keep in mind that a medical degree from England may not allow you to practice medicine in the States if you plan to move back to the states after school. Your first step would be to pick a school and apply.  Then if you are accepted you would need to apply for the Tier 4 student visa.  In order for the visa to be approved, you need to prove that you can pay for the entirety of tuition and have funds available to live while in school (maintenance fees).  In essence, you would probably need to have available $30,000 to $40,000 depending on the cost of the program and geographic area.  I am going through this process right now and it is stressful, to say the least.  But I still think it will be worth the experience. Good luck to you!
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Re: Moving from US to UK?
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2011, 04:42:15 AM »
You will also need to keep in mind that a medical degree from England may not allow you to practice medicine in the States if you plan to move back to the states after school. Your first step would be to pick a school and apply.  Then if you are accepted you would need to apply for the Tier 4 student visa.  In order for the visa to be approved, you need to prove that you can pay for the entirety of tuition and have funds available to live while in school (maintenance fees).  In essence, you would probably need to have available $30,000 to $40,000 depending on the cost of the program and geographic area.  I am going through this process right now and it is stressful, to say the least.  But I still think it will be worth the experience. Good luck to you!

So I won;t be able to pay for school with scholarships or loans? I have a job I may be able to transfer over there.


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Re: Moving from US to UK?
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2011, 04:52:08 AM »
So I won;t be able to pay for school with scholarships or loans? I have a job I may be able to transfer over there.

You can pay with US-based scholarships and loans, but the full amount of your course must be guaranteed in writing before the visa is issued.  A student visa only allows you to work 20 hours a week during term time, and the rules say that work income should be supplementary.  That is, your course, books, and accommodation should be paid for in advance, but you're allowed to use employment to pay back loans or fund extras like entertainment and travel.

They really are doing as much as possible to keep all but the most wealthy (or "best and brightest" according to the politicans) immigrants out of the country these days.
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Re: Moving from US to UK?
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2011, 12:50:39 PM »
You can pay with US-based scholarships and loans, but the full amount of your course must be guaranteed in writing before the visa is issued. 

Also bear in mind that international student fees for medical degrees are extremely expensive - much more so than international fees for other degrees.

- UK/EU students currently pay about £3,300 per year for any degree course, including medicine (this is the current maximum any university can charge UK students).

- International students currently pay between £10,000 and £15,000 per year for most degree programmes.

- However, international student fees for medical degrees are about £25,000 to £30,000 in tuition per year!!

To get a student visa, you need to show that you have access to one full year of tuition, plus a minimum amount of living costs for the first year. Converting to dollars, tuition will probably be somewhere between $35,000 and $50,000 for one year, plus living costs will be $8,100 if you will live in London or $6,100 outside London... so you will need somewhere between $41,000 and $58,000 in order to get the visa - this money either has to be in your bank account for 28 days before applying for the visa, or by way of an approved loan from the US.


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Re: Moving from US to UK?
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2011, 04:07:19 PM »
Have you considered Republic of Ireland? There is a website that encourages North American students to study in Irish medical schools. www.atlanticbridge.com/med/index.htm Don't know any more than that. We did have an (American) doctor who had trained in Ireland -- so must be possible to qualify in the States.
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Re: Moving from US to UK?
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2011, 04:08:14 PM »
Also bear in mind that international student fees for medical degrees are extremely expensive - much more so than international fees for other degrees.

- UK/EU students currently pay about £3,300 per year for any degree course, including medicine (this is the current maximum any university can charge UK students).

- International students currently pay between £10,000 and £15,000 per year for most degree programmes.

- However, international student fees for medical degrees are about £25,000 to £30,000 in tuition per year!!

To get a student visa, you need to show that you have access to one full year of tuition, plus a minimum amount of living costs for the first year. Converting to dollars, tuition will probably be somewhere between $35,000 and $50,000 for one year, plus living costs will be $8,100 if you will live in London or $6,100 outside London... so you will need somewhere between $41,000 and $58,000 in order to get the visa - this money either has to be in your bank account for 28 days before applying for the visa, or by way of an approved loan from the US.

Medical school in the states costs the same...if not more! Does any one know if there is some kind of professional who knows all about this stuff that I can talk to?


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Re: Moving from US to UK?
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2011, 06:12:36 PM »
You know there is or was a fella on this forum who trained as a doc in the US, and is or was practicing medicine here on the NHS - in Scotland, I think it was.  I'll see if I can dig up an old thread.  He might be helpful if he's still around, or maybe you could PM him.  Let's see...

Right, okay, here is a thread he (or she?  but I think it's a he) chimed in on...the convo started on some comparisons between the medical system US to UK, but then an interesting discussion (with insight from the doctor who has worked in both systems) about costs of medical degrees relative to pay once out of medical school, etc (again US vs UK).

Maybe you'll find this helpful?

http://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=63175.msg891067#msg891067
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Re: Moving from US to UK?
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2011, 08:47:15 PM »
Medical school in the states costs the same...if not more! Does any one know if there is some kind of professional who knows all about this stuff that I can talk to?

Most British universities have an international student office.  Figure out where you want to go based on websites and research, then contact the international office at the uni of your choice.
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