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Questions on applying for Primary School
« on: August 05, 2013, 07:33:57 PM »
Hi. I'm new to this site so I apologize if there is another post with this same subject and I missed it.

I'm American, hubby is English, and we still live in the US. We have a 16 month old son born in April 2012. We are planning to move to the UK in the next few years in time for our son to start school. I've been trying to study up on the UK education system, but it just seems to confuse me more the more I read.

At what age/school year does formal education begin? Reception or Year One?

Are Reception classes usually physically in the same school as Year One classes? (ie. Is it the same group of kids that go from Reception to Year One? Or will there be all new kids at Year One?)

When do you apply for school?

Do you have to be living in the UK to apply?

I guess I'm trying to figure out would it be best for our son to start school in the UK at Reception or Year One? Is it more advantageous for him to do Reception in the UK?

From what I've read it sounds like you have to apply a year in advance and that you have to be in the UK. Can you apply from overseas? How does that work? Do you have the same chances applying from overseas as you would applying from the UK for your preferred school? or would it be better to apply from within the UK?

My husband would like to move by the time our son is 3 so we can apply from the UK and have our son start at Reception at age 4. As we're planning to be in the UK long term I'd like another year or two in the US if possible. So I'm curious if it possible to apply for Reception or Year One from overseas (as long as it doesn't hurt our chances of getting a good school).

Thank you!!


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Re: Questions on applying for Primary School
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2013, 08:19:10 PM »
Will you be living in England or Wales? If so, the following applies, but if you'll be moving to Scotland, they have a different education system.

At what age/school year does formal education begin? Reception or Year One?

In England and Wales Reception is the start of formal education (before that, you have 'Early Years' or Nursery which is for children age 3-4) - if attending a state (not private) school, it is compulsory for children to start attending Reception in the year or term before they turn 5, depending on the policies of the local education authority.

So, say if their 5th birthday is between 1 Sept 2013 and 31st August 2014, they must start Reception in either September 2013 or possibly January 2014 (depending on the local council policies).

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Are Reception classes usually physically in the same school as Year One classes? (ie. Is it the same group of kids that go from Reception to Year One? Or will there be all new kids at Year One?)

Yes, primary schools generally house 7 years of classes: Reception to Year 6, although they may be split within the school into Infants and Juniors or First and Middle school.

The different schools are:

Nursery/Early Years: age 3-4 (Nursery class)

Primary: age 4-11 (Reception class to Year 6)

Secondary: age 11-16 (Year 7 to Year 11) (Year 11 GCSE exams are equivalent to a US high school diploma)

Further Education/Sixth Form: age 16-19 (Years 12 and 13 for Sixth Forms) (equivalent to AP classes or freshman/sophomore college classes)

Reception isn't really a separate entity, it's part of primary school - when I started primary school (1987), it wasn't called Reception class at all... the school classes were called Infants 1, 2 and 3 (now Reception, Year 1 and Year 2) and Juniors 1, 2, 3 and 4 (now Years 3, 4, 5 and 6).

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When do you apply for school?

I'm not too sure, actually - I know of some parents who register their children for chosen schools (or put them on the waiting list) 2 or 3 years before they will be attending! I think it will depend on the local area and how in demand the schools are... you would need to contact the local authority of the UK town you will be living in to find out.

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Do you have to be living in the UK to apply?

You need to know what council district you will be living in in the UK, so ideally you need a UK address... because the schools have catchment areas which determine which schools you're likely to get preference for.

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I guess I'm trying to figure out would it be best for our son to start school in the UK at Reception or Year One? Is it more advantageous for him to do Reception in the UK?

If you move to the UK before or during the year that he turns 5 years old, then he must start Reception... you have no choice in that, unless you choose to home-school or send him to private school.

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From what I've read it sounds like you have to apply a year in advance and that you have to be in the UK. Can you apply from overseas? How does that work? Do you have the same chances applying from overseas as you would applying from the UK for your preferred school? or would it be better to apply from within the UK?

The problem with applying overseas is that you need to apply to the local UK council for the schools... and if you are living abroad, then chances are you won't know where you will be living in the UK yet... so you won't have a UK address to use for applying.


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Re: Questions on applying for Primary School
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2013, 09:37:13 AM »
Reception isn't mandatory, but your child needs to be in formal education from the start of the term after they turn 5.   It is still considered to be foundation stage where the kids are supposed to be learning through play and all that, but it is more formal than nursery.

I know people who have kept their child out of reception.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_England
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Re: Questions on applying for Primary School
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2013, 12:45:41 PM »
Not to be confusing but Reception in England and Wales is part of Early Years and under the Early Years Foundation Stage curriculum.

As someone who works in Early Years I have to say I do NOT recommend not sending your child to Nursery or Reception.  While Learning Through Play is not formal learning per se, it forms a foundation that the ability to learn is based on.  In their Nursery year (from sept they are 3, in a school or other private setting) they learn how to work and play with their peers, how to sit, how to listen to others, how to be inquisitive and explore.

Applications for reception will be handled by the local education authority the school year before (ours were due by Jan 15 and we found out mid-April).  For Nursery I'm not sure as ours have both done their Nursery year at the playgroup/nursery I work at so I just filled out an application both times when they were about one to get them on the list for when they were old enough.
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Re: Questions on applying for Primary School
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2013, 08:28:49 PM »
Thanks for the replies everyone! They are helpful. As a follow-up question...say we don't move to the UK until after the applications are due (so in spring or summer), is it still possible to sign him up for school in the autumn?


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Re: Questions on applying for Primary School
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2013, 08:35:24 AM »
yes it should be..but you might get stuck with a school a good distance from where you live if the school in your catchment area is full.
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Re: Questions on applying for Primary School
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2013, 09:02:22 PM »
Just to point out, because it took me forever to realize, that Reception is = to all day pre-k in the US. Year One = Kindergarten.

You probably know that by now, but there was actually a lot of confusion when I looked online
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Re: Questions on applying for Primary School
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2013, 12:55:39 PM »
Just to point out, because it took me forever to realize, that Reception is = to all day pre-k in the US. Year One = Kindergarten.

You probably know that by now, but there was actually a lot of confusion when I looked online

Yep, my 5 year old will be in Year One in September. 
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Re: Questions on applying for Primary School
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2013, 03:11:26 PM »
Thanks for the replies! Yeah, it took me awhile, too, to finally not associate Reception with Kindegarten and Year One with First Grade. I had to print out a little handy cheat sheet :)


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Re: Questions on applying for Primary School
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2013, 12:18:02 PM »
Thanks for the replies! Yeah, it took me awhile, too, to finally not associate Reception with Kindegarten and Year One with First Grade. I had to print out a little handy cheat sheet :)

For the grade numbers equivalencies, I just usually take one year off the UK year to get the US equivalent.

UK school goes up to Year 13, but US school only goes up to 12th grade... however, Year 13 students and 12th grade students are usually the same age (17-18).

The only real difference is that in the UK, students usually stay in the year specified by their age - not many students are moved up or down a year due to their academic ability (it does happen, but it's not very common)... so in general, all the kids in Year 1 will be age 5-6, all the kids in Year 6, will be age 10-11, all the kids in Year 11 will be 15-16, etc..

So in general, based on age groups:
Year 2 = 1st grade
Year 4 = 3rd grade
Year 6 = 5th grade
etc.


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Re: Questions on applying for Primary School
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2013, 01:39:05 PM »
For the grade numbers equivalencies, I just usually take one year off the UK year to get the US equivalent.

That doesn't work in Scotland  ;)
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