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Starting new job - can't find biometrics card
« on: June 23, 2014, 08:59:37 AM »
I've misplaced my biometrics card, apparently. Normally wouldn't be a problem, it'd just take me a few days to find it. But I'm starting a new job today. I'd thought I'd already scanned a copy of my biometrics card for them, but I can't find it in the scans folder.

Will I still be able to start this job without having the card with me?

EDIT: I do have the card's number and the letter that came with the card.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2014, 09:34:07 AM by ptork66 »
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Re: Starting new job - can't find biometrics card
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2014, 09:43:59 AM »
I've worked in HR in the UK and we required a copy (that we made) of the BRP/visa. We usually took it sometime in the first week of the new hire, but we couldn't take a copy without viewing the original.

It's not likely to happen, but if the company is audited, they could get a fine if they don't have the immigration docs proving all their employees are legally allowed to work in the UK (BRP/visa + passport or just UK/EU passport for every employee).

Best to check with the HR department of your new job - they may be able to wait a few days after you start for you to find your BRP.

Today, I'd take everything you can relating to your BRP (card number, letter that came with the BRP and FLR/ILR approval letter if you've got it).

Good luck on your first day! ;D
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Re: Starting new job - can't find biometrics card
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2014, 10:21:01 AM »
Thanks!

They don't really have an HR department, and I've been volunteering there, which is why I was certain I took a scan for them not long ago. I also had it with me while filling in the application the other day, so I'm hoping I just accidentally left it there.

Thanks for the info. I really hope I find it (I can't afford to get a replacement).
01 Sep 09: Entered UK on T4.
27 Jul 10: Married.
30 Oct 10: Back to US.
08 Sep 11: Entered UK on 2nd T4.
07 Jul 12: Mailed off FLR(M) app.
11 Jul 12: FLR(M) app signed for by UKBA.
22 Oct 12: Rec'd biometrics letter.
31 Oct 12: Biometrics given.
26 Feb 13: Approval letter/documents rec'd (dated 20 Feb)
05 Mar 13: BRP arrived
21 Jan 15: Life in the UK test - Passed!
20 Feb 15: Mailed SET(M) app
20 May 15: ILR approved
22 Aug 23: Naturalisation app submitted
13 Sep 23: Biometrics
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Re: Starting new job - can't find biometrics card
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2014, 10:37:55 AM »
They don't really have an HR department, and I've been volunteering there, which is why I was certain I took a scan for them not long ago.

If you've been volunteering for them, they should have a scan already, right?
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Re: Starting new job - can't find biometrics card
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2014, 01:59:10 PM »
You say you can't afford to replace it? It's only £40. What you should consider is that you cannot afford to NOT replace it:

From gov.uk website:
Replace your BRP if you’re in the UK
You must apply for a replacement BRP within 3 months if it was lost, stolen or damaged while you were in the UK, or within 1 month if you’re returning to the UK on a ‘replacement BRP visa’. A replacement BRP costs £40 if you apply from inside the UK.

You may be fined up to £1,000 and have your permission to stay removed if you don’t apply for a replacement in time.

https://www.gov.uk/replace-brp


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Re: Starting new job - can't find biometrics card
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2014, 09:42:09 PM »
You say you can't afford to replace it? It's only £40. What you should consider is that you cannot afford to NOT replace it:

From gov.uk website:
Replace your BRP if you’re in the UK
You must apply for a replacement BRP within 3 months if it was lost, stolen or damaged while you were in the UK, or within 1 month if you’re returning to the UK on a ‘replacement BRP visa’. A replacement BRP costs £40 if you apply from inside the UK.

You may be fined up to £1,000 and have your permission to stay removed if you don’t apply for a replacement in time.

https://www.gov.uk/replace-brp

That's within three months, though. I'm sure I'll be able to save up £40 if I can't find it within three months. What I meant was, I can't afford to replace it NOW. And since I need it now, now is the only time I'm thinking about, especially since I have a tendency to temporarily misplace it.

The volunteering only relatively recently started, but, as it turned out, I was right about thinking I'd made a scan for them. So it all worked out in the end - except for the fact I haven't found it yet.
01 Sep 09: Entered UK on T4.
27 Jul 10: Married.
30 Oct 10: Back to US.
08 Sep 11: Entered UK on 2nd T4.
07 Jul 12: Mailed off FLR(M) app.
11 Jul 12: FLR(M) app signed for by UKBA.
22 Oct 12: Rec'd biometrics letter.
31 Oct 12: Biometrics given.
26 Feb 13: Approval letter/documents rec'd (dated 20 Feb)
05 Mar 13: BRP arrived
21 Jan 15: Life in the UK test - Passed!
20 Feb 15: Mailed SET(M) app
20 May 15: ILR approved
22 Aug 23: Naturalisation app submitted
13 Sep 23: Biometrics
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Re: Starting new job - can't find biometrics card
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2015, 07:47:32 PM »
Hi. Sorry to butt in on this thread, but I was browsing topics to try and educate myself more about my upcoming move (spousal visa from US) and I am quite confused now. Could someone please explain to me about needing a copy of your biometrics card in order to work a job? I never received a copy of my biometrics - neither here when I had it done nor when I received my documents and passport/visa back from Sheffield. When I went to my biometrics appointment, I only received my letter from the agency stating my appointment and the file number of my fingerprints that were sent to Sheffield electronically. This is what I sent to Sheffield with my documents, and its the only thing concerning my biometrics that I got back. Is this what you are all referring to?
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Starting new job - can't find biometrics card
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2015, 07:55:12 PM »
No, this discussion isn't relevant to your visa at all.

You won't have a biometrics card and you don't need one because your visa was issued outside the UK.

If you apply for a visa from outside the UK it is issued as a sticker in your passport... So you just show your passport with visa inside as proof of eligibility to work.

If you apply for a visa from inside the UK, it is issued as a biometrics residence card and is not a sticker in your passport. Therefore your only proof of your visa and eligibility to work is the biometrics card.

So this is not something you need to worry about as your visa is in your passport.

You will be issued with a biometrics card when you apply for your next visa in 2.5 years.


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Re: Starting new job - can't find biometrics card
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2015, 03:02:59 AM »
Ok. Thanks for the clarification!
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