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Info on UK born children applying for citizenship
« on: November 16, 2004, 05:00:05 PM »
I have one child (age 12 months) who was born here.  She is a US citizen, as I am a US citizen and my husband is dual Turkey and US citizenship.

My husband is here on the HSMP.  His current HSMP expires in two years but he was told that after that time, he has legal work permit status in the UK forever.

My understanding is that after five years, I can apply for UK citizenship for my daughter.  Am I wrong?  (probably)  I also read on the homepage of this site that after three years, most people can acquire dual citizenship.

Can someone point me in the right directions?  Thank you. :)


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Re: Info on UK born children applying for citizenship
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2004, 05:04:54 PM »
Three years is for those getting citizenship based on marriage to a UK citizen.


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Re: Info on UK born children applying for citizenship
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2004, 05:15:55 PM »
Thank you, that's a huge help right there.  I didn't find the FAQ on the homepage that helpful.

http://www.richw.org/dualcit/

B/c it's not UK specific.  Not to gripe.


Re: Info on UK born children applying for citizenship
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2004, 10:39:28 AM »
My husband is here on the HSMP.  His current HSMP expires in two years but he was told that after that time, he has legal work permit status in the UK forever.

I would advise double-checking whoever told him that.  The normal migration path from HSMP is to FLR; and there's another path to HSMP extension; and another path to WP.   None of those are automatic and none are 'forever'.  Some get ILR after one of those, which would make any newborns you had British from birth, is that helpful?

Based upon what you've said, your 1 yo is on a dependent's path, with the added feature that it can also go for the LTC.


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Re: Info on UK born children applying for citizenship
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2004, 10:55:22 AM »
Thank you, garry, yes, you're right about the questionable 'forever' comment.  Thank you!

My husband's HSMP has been approved for extensino for a further three years (we've been here one year).  After the three years, we can apply to the HO's Initial Consieration Unit for indefinite leave to remain.  Does that make more sense?  That info is from written statement to us from the Home Office themselves.

Thank you for the dependent's path info, I wasn't aware of that.  I will research that further. 

Please help me with acronyms you used:  LTC?  FLR?

Thank you very much again.  I'm reading through every link I can which you provided in the sticky, also contacted Julia Cole Onslow (all emails to her fail, even the hyperlinked on the cmck website, btw)


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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2004, 12:25:58 PM »
Please help me with acronyms you used:  LTC?  FLR?

Thank you very much again.  I'm reading through every link I can which you provided in the sticky, also contacted Julia Cole Onslow (all emails to her fail, even the hyperlinked on the cmck website, btw)

Since the child was born here, it could apply under the Long Term Concession when it reaches 10.  It's an unlikely event, but worth knowing about.  And if your hb already received an HSMP extension, the FLR (Further Leave to Remain - Immigration Employment Document) becomes irrelevant.

I would stay on Julia's case for any remaining issues.  She basically *invented* the HSMP singlehandedly.


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Re: Info on UK born children applying for citizenship
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2004, 01:11:50 PM »
Thank you, garry!  When you say 'unlikely event' wrt the concession at age 10, why is it unlikely?  Unlikely to be approved at that time?

I will be sure to reach Julia for our options.  I'm glad at least we're on the extended HSMP and not tied to a work permit job.  My hb is self employed as well.



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Re: Info on UK born children applying for citizenship
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2004, 01:20:49 PM »
I think Garry means it is unlikely you would need the 10-year concession.

Assuming you all get ILR, you should all be able to naturalise on the basis of residence before the 10-year concession would even become relevant, isn't that what you meant Garry?


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Re: Info on UK born children applying for citizenship
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2004, 01:30:27 PM »
Ah, got it (if that's what garry meant).  Clearly 'neophyte' is a very appropriate title for me. ;)

Seems like the most prudent route is for husband to continue working via HSMP, apply for ILR, apply for naturalisation on the basis of residence.  Just have to make sure husband holds up his end on the HSMP!



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Re: Info on UK born children applying for citizenship
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2004, 01:45:24 PM »
That sounds right.

To naturalise, you have to live here a total of 5 years, the last of which has to be with ILR.

I did this a couple of years back. And by the way, the US does accept dual citizenship under such circumstances. They didn't, once upon a time, but that all changed over a decade ago. I had no problem renewing my US passport after I got the UK one.



Re: Info on UK born children applying for citizenship
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2004, 03:52:52 PM »
the 10-year concession would even become relevant, isn't that what you meant Garry?

Exactly!

The other interesting scenario, unlikely but possible, is the accession of Turkey - in which case they become an EU family - HOPEFULLY without having to reset the immigration clock ticking again at square 1.


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Re: Info on UK born children applying for citizenship
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2004, 04:35:48 PM »
Thank you misch and garry, you have both been tremendous helps to me today.  Cannot thank you enough.

Yeah, it'd be nice if Turkey was allowed to join the EU and that was our 'in'.  It is the only thing Dubya and I both agree on!  Everytime it looks promising, things fall apart again.

Thank you very much.


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