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Do we need a Passport
« on: January 09, 2019, 10:42:17 AM »
My Wife wont have her passport in a few weeks due to it being in for extending her Visa, in that period we were thinking we may go to Dublin.  As a UK citizen I do not need to show my PAssport any form of ID should suffice on the flight ie Driving Licence.   

Has any USA Citizens flown from UK to Dublin or even Guernsey etc and NOT required the passport using a UK driving licence as ID?


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Re: Do we need a Passport
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2019, 10:53:37 AM »
You need a passport to enter the Republic of Ireland.  Some airlines *may* allow you to fly to Belfast without a passport but it’s unlikely you will find one.

Best just to sit tight until the passport and BRP are back.


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Re: Do we need a Passport
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2019, 11:08:58 AM »
You need a passport to enter the Republic of Ireland.  Some airlines *may* allow you to fly to Belfast without a passport but it’s unlikely you will find one.

Best just to sit tight until the passport and BRP are back.

Ive never used one before for Dublin just Driving Licence (UK) as Republic of Ireland are part of COmmon Travel Area for us brits, but your correct I dont think we will risk it with the wife being "foreign!" :-)


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Re: Do we need a Passport
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2019, 11:15:15 AM »
Ive never used one before for Dublin just Driving Licence (UK) as Republic of Ireland are part of COmmon Travel Area for us brits, but your correct I dont think we will risk it with the wife being "foreign!" :-)

Yes, UK citizens are fine using photo ID instead of a passport. However, non-UK/EU citizens must have a passport to enter Ireland.

See here: https://www.ireland.com/en-us/about-ireland/travel-information/visa-passport-and-embassy-information-in-ireland/

From that page:

Passports
To enter the Republic or Northern Ireland, you need a valid passport. While e-passports are commonly used now, they are not a necessity to enter Ireland. UK citizens do not require a passport to enter Ireland, but carriers by air or sea require some form of identification with a photograph (usually either a passport or driving license with photo).

EU citizens are required to have a passport or national identity card; while citizens of all other countries must have a valid passport. ALWAYS check what form of ID is required with your individual airline, ferry company or travel agent before traveling.


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Re: Do we need a Passport
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2019, 11:20:18 AM »
Thanks all I think were going to sit tight, plus were going to be skint with just re-applying for the Visa extension grrrrrrrrr wouldnt mind but she works hard like most of us and pays Taxes / NI etc then get charged the privilege to stay and pay more again!! (moan over) 

I was thinking though her UK Driving Licence may have worked to get her into Ireland. :-)



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Re: Do we need a Passport
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2019, 11:23:26 AM »
There's a bus. It'd take a long time. Not sure if they check passports.  ;) 8)


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Re: Do we need a Passport
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2019, 11:26:40 AM »
nah ive given up on that idea  :)  I also remembered she flies back to California via Dublin at Easter she can enjoy a Guinness during her layover in Dublin then. that way she can say shes been to Dublin and save me having to go  ;D


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Re: Do we need a Passport
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2019, 11:41:14 AM »
You need a passport to enter the Republic of Ireland.  Some airlines *may* allow you to fly to Belfast without a passport but it’s unlikely you will find one.
Unless anything's changed in the last year or so, flights between the UK and Ireland are treated as domestic in both directions (with the exception of Ryanair flights into Dublin) so there's no passport control - so no requirement for a passport there. Other than Ryanair into Dublin I haven't seen any airlines that require passports to fly either - between Belfast and GB I've always used my provisional driving licence with FlyBe.

Why Ryanair is different from everyone else I don't know - they send you through international arrivals in Dublin.


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Re: Do we need a Passport
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2019, 11:44:28 AM »
Unless anything's changed in the last year or so, flights between the UK and Ireland are treated as domestic in both directions (with the exception of Ryanair flights into Dublin) so there's no passport control - so no requirement for a passport there. Other than Ryanair into Dublin I haven't seen any airlines that require passports to fly either - between Belfast and GB I've always used my provisional driving licence with FlyBe.

Why Ryanair is different from everyone else I don't know - they send you through international arrivals in Dublin.

But there is passport control on the way into ROI for non-British citizens.  I have about a dozen Irish stamps in my passport and can vividly describe the passport control area...  see the link above from ksand direct from the government page that you are required to have a passport to enter Ireland if not a British citizen.


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Re: Do we need a Passport
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2019, 11:50:10 AM »
between Belfast and GB I've always used my provisional driving licence with FlyBe.

Why Ryanair is different from everyone else I don't know - they send you through international arrivals in Dublin.

Belfast is in the UK though, so there's no need for a passport anyway.... flying into Belfast from England is no different from flying between England, Scotland and Wales.

Dublin, on the other hand, is in the Republic of Ireland, and is not part of the UK, which means you go through border control when you arrive.


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Re: Do we need a Passport
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2019, 12:48:34 PM »
Yeap, before I became British, I flew to Shannon a lot for work and I have a lot of stamps from Ireland (and at one point, got a lot of questions why I was spending so much time in Ireland, etc) 
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Re: Do we need a Passport
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2019, 02:07:34 PM »


Belfast is in the UK though, so there's no need for a passport anyway.... flying into Belfast from England is no different from flying between England, Scotland and Wales.
I know, I was replying to a post which says "you may be able to to Belfast".

Dublin, on the other hand, is in the Republic of Ireland, and is not part of the UK, which means you go through border control when you arrive.
I know Dublin is in a different country too. Flights to the Republic of Ireland don't go through border control if they departed an airport in Ireland or the UK - except for Ryanair flights into Dublin. Flights from the Republic of Ireland don't go through passport control in the UK either.


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Re: Do we need a Passport
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2019, 02:46:07 PM »
Flights to the Republic of Ireland don't go through border control if they departed an airport in Ireland or the UK - except for Ryanair flights into Dublin. Flights from the Republic of Ireland don't go through passport control in the UK either.

It's this bit that's bothering us - it IS incorrect.  You absolutely go through border control if you fly into the Republic of Ireland on a flight that departs from the UK.  You do NOT go through passport control on flights that depart from ROI to the UK, you bypass Border Control through it's own special lane.  But you cannot enter Ireland from a flight that departed from the UK without a passport if you are not British. 


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Re: Do we need a Passport
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2019, 05:14:33 PM »
Ah ok, looks like I'm mistaken. I was convinced there was no passport control entering Ireland from the UK, but it looks like there is - unless you arrive by land or sea.


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