FLR(UP) Extension - Questions before we submit the application

Hi all,

It's hard to believe 2.5 years have gone by since we moved across the pond and all the VFS Gold Settlement "Premium Service" package shenanigans with @Dani618. So here we are again to ask for your expert help and advice - particularly @ksand24, @larrabee and @KFdancer - really glad you're still around!

Apologies in advance for the length of this post - just wanted to get everything laid out clearly!

We had the help of a solicitor the last time but after joining the forum we realized we really didn't need a lawyer with a straightforward case. As we're going solo this time, before we submit the application for the 2.5 year extension, I wanted to run a few things past the experts on this forum just to make sure we're not making any obvious mistakes. The entry stamp on my entry clearance vignette shows 1 Feb 2018. My current BRP card expires 12 Oct 2020. I believe we're at the start of the extension application window (i.e. 30 months post entry minus 28 days) but want to get this sent off as soon as possible. Question: could someone confirm we're okay to send off the application now, if the evidence below all checks out?

There are a couple of sticking points that I'd like to highlight to ask for your opinions and these are in bold below, amongst the list of evidence we're planning to upload:

Mandatory ID documents of applicant

• The passport issued by USA for applicant;
• UK Biometric Residence Permit Card issued to applicant.

Declarations and Third Party Consent Forms

• PART 1: Consent for the Home Office to verify application information;
• PART 2: Consent for the Home Office to verify third party information;
• PART 3: Consent for the Home Office to verify information from third party sponsor;
• Declaration for spouses, civil partners, proposed civil partners, fiancé(e)s, and unmarried partners.

Evidence of sponsor’s immigration status in the UK

• Sponsor’s UK passport

Evidence of applicant's English Language Competency

• Applicant's US passport

Evidence of council tax costs for the accommodation in the UK where you live or will live

• Derby City Council Tax Bill, jointly addressed, dated 11 March 2020;

Financial Requirement
Last time we used our cash savings to apply. This time, we've got money split into US/UK accounts and the US ones don't have our UK address on so we're going the employment route this time. We're both over the £18k threshold but we're only including one set of payslips, bank statements and letters to keep this as simple as possible:

• Letter from University of Nottingham, confirming sponsor’s employment under a permanent contract, a start date, current position and annual salary, dated 15 July 2020;
• Letter from University of Nottingham, certifying the supplied payslips, dated 15 July 2020;
  Question: the letter doesn't list the payslip dates/amounts, just saying the payslips are genuine but they've stamped each payslip as a certified true copy with a wet signature - is this okay or do we need to get a new letter from HR listing each payslip and confirming each payment amount?
• Certified payslip of sponsor from University of Nottingham, dated 30 January 2020;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement of sponsor showing payroll deposit, dated 12 February 2020;
• Certified payslip of sponsor from University of Nottingham, dated 27 February 2020;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement of sponsor showing payroll deposit, dated 12 March 2020;
• Certified payslip of sponsor from University of Nottingham, dated 30 March 2020;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement of sponsor showing payroll deposit, dated 12 April 2020;
• Certified payslip of sponsor from University of Nottingham, dated 29 April 2020;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement of sponsor showing payroll deposit, dated 12 May 2020;
• Certified payslip of sponsor from University of Nottingham, dated 28 May 2020;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement of sponsor showing payroll deposit, dated 12 June 2020;
• Certified payslip of sponsor from University of Nottingham, dated 29 June 2020;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement of sponsor showing payroll deposit, dated 12 July 2020;

From looking at previous posts, we saw the the dates on the payslips need to match the deposit dates - we've confirmed this is the case for all of the above.

List of Correspondence
We realize this is overkill but thought it'd be better to over do it; the first couple were to cover the entire 2.5 year period.
Question: Which of these would you suggest including/omitting?

• Leeds City Council Tax Bill, jointly addressed, dated 25 February 2018;
• American Express Credit Card Statement, jointly addressed, 05 May 2018;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 July 2018;
• American Express Credit Card Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 September 2018;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 November 2018;
• Leeds City Council Tax Adjustment Notice, jointly addressed, dated 10 December 2019;
• American Express Credit Card Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 February 2019;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 March 2019;
• Derby City Council Tax Bill, jointly addressed, dated 31 May 2019;
• Severn Trent Water Bill, jointly addressed, dated 19 June 2019;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 July 2019;
• American Express Credit Card Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 August 2019;
• Severn Trent Water Bill, jointly addressed, dated 04 November 2019;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 November 2019;
• American Express Credit Card Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 January 2020;
• Tesco Bank Car Insurance Policy, jointly addressed, date 28 February 2020;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 March 2020;
• Derby City Council Tax Bill, jointly addressed, dated 11 March 2020;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 July 2020;

Accommodation Requirement

• Evidence of monthly housing costs for the accommodation in the UK where you live or will live;
  Question: We have a tenancy agreement (digital PDF only; there was never a paper original) but it ended in May and we've gone onto a month-to-month lease. We didn't renew it because we're in the process of buying a house (we've not made any mention of this in the application but could include it in a covering letter). We have a letter saying "we write to confirm that the tenancy will become statutory periodic and as such will continue on a monthly basis until notice is received from either party," but they've not signed it! Technically the tenancy agreement has a clause specifying that we would continue month-to-month after May 2020. Would it be best to ignore the extension letter entirely? Should we just go ahead and include the unsigned letter (it has the property management company phone number/email address). Or would you suggest that we request a signed version of the letter instead, perhaps asking them to include the monthly cost as well? 

Other documents/evidence

• Question: For our initial FLR(UP) application, the solicitor had us include a ton of pictures of us as a couple, supporting letters from family and friends, copies of our tickets/joint holiday bookings, etc. We really think this was mostly unnecessary but we followed the advice we were given. We're not including any of these things this time around and don't see any requirement to do so... Is this the right call, particularly since this is just for an extension?
• Question: We're not planning to include a covering letter, unless the experts here suggest we should? Perhaps because of the tenancy agreement having lapsed or the pending house purchase?
• Question: We know the Covid situation will cause delays and we're not too concerned about that at the moment. We paid for expedited service the first time but don't need to this time around - given section 3C of the Immigration Act 1971. Is there anything we should be aware of that has changed other than the possible re-use of biometrics and that we're now uploading everything instead of mailing originals?

Hey,

The entry stamp on my entry clearance vignette shows 1 Feb 2018. My current BRP card expires 12 Oct 2020. I believe we're at the start of the extension application window (i.e. 30 months post entry minus 28 days) but want to get this sent off as soon as possible. Question: could someone confirm we're okay to send off the application now, if the evidence below all checks out?

If you entered the UK on 1st Feb 2018, you will reach 30 months on 1st August 2020, so the earliest date you could submit the online application was 4th July 2020... which means you're fine to submit now.

In regards to your documents:

Declarations and Third Party Consent Forms

• PART 1: Consent for the Home Office to verify application information;
• PART 2: Consent for the Home Office to verify third party information;
• PART 3: Consent for the Home Office to verify information from third party sponsor;
• Declaration for spouses, civil partners, proposed civil partners, fiancé(e)s, and unmarried partners.

In regards to the consent forms, no one should be signing Part 3: Third Party Sponsor consent, because you are not allowed a third party sponsor for your application.

So, you have:
Part 1: signed by applicant
Part 2: signed by sponsor
Sponsor Declaration: signed by sponsor

(Part 3: not signed by anyone)

Evidence of applicant's English Language Competency

• Applicant's US passport

This shouldn't need to be uploaded separately because you are exempt from the requirement, so you just leave this upload section blank.

Evidence of council tax costs for the accommodation in the UK where you live or will live

• Derby City Council Tax Bill, jointly addressed, dated 11 March 2020;

This goes with your accommodation evidence.

List of Correspondence
We realize this is overkill but thought it'd be better to over do it; the first couple were to cover the entire 2.5 year period.
Question: Which of these would you suggest including/omitting?

• Leeds City Council Tax Bill, jointly addressed, dated 25 February 2018;
• American Express Credit Card Statement, jointly addressed, 05 May 2018;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 July 2018;
• American Express Credit Card Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 September 2018;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 November 2018;
• Leeds City Council Tax Adjustment Notice, jointly addressed, dated 10 December 2019;
• American Express Credit Card Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 February 2019;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 March 2019;
• Derby City Council Tax Bill, jointly addressed, dated 31 May 2019;
• Severn Trent Water Bill, jointly addressed, dated 19 June 2019;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 July 2019;
• American Express Credit Card Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 August 2019;
• Severn Trent Water Bill, jointly addressed, dated 04 November 2019;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 November 2019;
• American Express Credit Card Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 January 2020;
• Tesco Bank Car Insurance Policy, jointly addressed, date 28 February 2020;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 March 2020;
• Derby City Council Tax Bill, jointly addressed, dated 11 March 2020;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 July 2020;

DO NOT overdo the correspondence evidence. You ONLY cover 2 years, not 2.5 years. And you ONLY include 6 documents in each name (7 at most if you are including July 2020).

So, you need 1 document in each name from the following months:
July 2018
1.  Joint: HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 July 2018 (Source 1)
November 2018
2. Joint HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 November 2018
March 2019
3. Joint: HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 March 2019
July 2019
4. HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 July 2019
November 2019
5. Joint: Severn Trent Water Bill, jointly addressed, dated 04 November 2019 (Source 2)
March 2020
6. Joint: Derby City Council Tax Bill, jointly addressed, dated 11 March 2020 (Source 3)
Optional extra July 2020
7. Joint: HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 July 202

Accommodation Requirement

• Evidence of monthly housing costs for the accommodation in the UK where you live or will live;
  Question: We have a tenancy agreement (digital PDF only; there was never a paper original) but it ended in May and we've gone onto a month-to-month lease. We didn't renew it because we're in the process of buying a house (we've not made any mention of this in the application but could include it in a covering letter). We have a letter saying "we write to confirm that the tenancy will become statutory periodic and as such will continue on a monthly basis until notice is received from either party," but they've not signed it! Technically the tenancy agreement has a clause specifying that we would continue month-to-month after May 2020. Would it be best to ignore the extension letter entirely? Should we just go ahead and include the unsigned letter (it has the property management company phone number/email address). Or would you suggest that we request a signed version of the letter instead, perhaps asking them to include the monthly cost as well? 

You're making this too complicated. DO NOT mention your house purchase at all - it is not relevant to the application because you do not own it yet.

You include:
- original tenancy agreement (which states you are now month-to-month)
- 2020/2021 Council Tax statement
And that's it.

Other documents/evidence

• Question: For our initial FLR(UP) application, the solicitor had us include a ton of pictures of us as a couple, supporting letters from family and friends, copies of our tickets/joint holiday bookings, etc. We really think this was mostly unnecessary but we followed the advice we were given. We're not including any of these things this time around and don't see any requirement to do so... Is this the right call, particularly since this is just for an extension?

None of what you sent before is needed for this application. The only documents you need for relationship are your marriage certificate and your correspondence documents listed above.

• Question: We're not planning to include a covering letter, unless the experts here suggest we should? Perhaps because of the tenancy agreement having lapsed or the pending house purchase?

Nope. You should not send a cover letter. None of those things need to be mentioned.

• Question: We know the Covid situation will cause delays and we're not too concerned about that at the moment. We paid for expedited service the first time but don't need to this time around - given section 3C of the Immigration Act 1971. Is there anything we should be aware of that has changed other than the possible re-use of biometrics and that we're now uploading everything instead of mailing originals?

Not really.

I missed a bit:

Financial Requirement

• Letter from University of Nottingham, certifying the supplied payslips, dated 15 July 2020;
  Question: the letter doesn't list the payslip dates/amounts, just saying the payslips are genuine but they've stamped each payslip as a certified true copy with a wet signature - is this okay or do we need to get a new letter from HR listing each payslip and confirming each payment amount?

Stamping the payslips will not meet the requirement, they MUST be accompanied by a letter on official letterhead, signed by a senior official, confirming that each payslip is genuine.

The letter MUST list every payslip, including:
- the payslip date
- pay period
- gross pay
- net pay
- date paid into bank account.
If any dates or amounts are different from the bank statement deposit, this must be explained.

• Certified payslip of sponsor from University of Nottingham, dated 30 January 2020;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement of sponsor showing payroll deposit, dated 12 February 2020;
• Certified payslip of sponsor from University of Nottingham, dated 27 February 2020;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement of sponsor showing payroll deposit, dated 12 March 2020;
• Certified payslip of sponsor from University of Nottingham, dated 30 March 2020;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement of sponsor showing payroll deposit, dated 12 April 2020;
• Certified payslip of sponsor from University of Nottingham, dated 29 April 2020;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement of sponsor showing payroll deposit, dated 12 May 2020;
• Certified payslip of sponsor from University of Nottingham, dated 28 May 2020;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement of sponsor showing payroll deposit, dated 12 June 2020;
• Certified payslip of sponsor from University of Nottingham, dated 29 June 2020;
• HSBC UK Bank Statement of sponsor showing payroll deposit, dated 12 July 2020;

Okay, at the moment, your payslips and bank statements DO NOT meet the requirements because you are 1 month short.

If the first payslip is dated 30th January, then your 6 months is 30th January to 30th July... so your payslips and bank statements must cover every single day between 30th January and 30th July.

This will either mean:
- delaying your application to August in order to be able to include the end of July payslip and the early August bank statement
OR
- instead, you use 29th December to 29th June as your 6 months and include the December payslip and bank statement as well, giving you 7 months of each in total.[/list]

So, to put all your documents in the correct upload sections, you should have:

PROOF OF IDENTITY / TRAVEL HISTORY
- Sponsor's UK Passport
- Applicant's BRP

PROOF OF APPLICATION
- Applicant's US passport
- Signed declarations and consent to checks forms (Part 1, Part 2 and Sponsor Declaration)

RESIDENCE IN THE U.K.
Accommodation
- Tenancy agreement
- 2020-2021 Council Tax Bill
Correspondence
1.  Joint: HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 July 2018 (Source 1)
2. Joint: HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 November 2018
3. Joint: HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 March 2019
4. Joint: HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 July 2019
5. Joint: Severn Trent Water Bill, jointly addressed, dated 04 November 2019 (Source 2)
6. Joint: Derby City Council Tax Bill, jointly addressed, dated 11 March 2020 (Source 3)
Optional extra:
7. Joint: HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 July 2020

FINANCES: Category A: Employment Income
Mandatory
- 7 months of payslips dated 29th December to 29th June
- Letter from the university verifying each payslip
- 7 months of original bank statements dated 12th December to 12th July (if printed from online banking they must be stamped by the bank on EVERY page)
- Letter from University of Nottingham, confirming sponsor’s employment under a permanent contract, a start date, current position and annual salary, dated 15 July 2020
Optional but recommended:
- job contract
- May 2020 P60

OTHER
- Marriage certificate
- any divorce decrees if either of you has been married before

You leave the following sections empty as they are not relevant to your application:
- PROOF OF BUSINESS,
- LIFE EVENTS,
- MEDICAL INFORMATION,
- SPONSOR'S/EMPLOYMENT
- EDUCATIONAL.

We can't thank you enough for this thorough review @ksand24! There are definitely a few things that would have caught us out...

PROOF OF APPLICATION
- Applicant's US passport
- Signed declarations and consent to checks forms (Part 1, Part 2 and Sponsor Declaration)

Got it - we hadn't actually read/signed these declaration forms yet! Thanks for pointing out that Part 3 doesn't apply.

RESIDENCE IN THE U.K.
Accommodation
- Tenancy agreement
- 2020-2021 Council Tax Bill
Correspondence
1.  Joint: HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 July 2018 (Source 1)
2. Joint: HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 November 2018
3. Joint: HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 March 2019
4. Joint: HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 July 2019
5. Joint: Severn Trent Water Bill, jointly addressed, dated 04 November 2019 (Source 2)
6. Joint: Derby City Council Tax Bill, jointly addressed, dated 11 March 2020 (Source 3)
Optional extra:
7. Joint: HSBC UK Bank Statement, jointly addressed, dated 05 July 2020

Brilliant -  you're right we were making this too complicated! Presumably it's okay that the tenancy agreement was only ever issued to us as a PDF? We'll upload that along with the Derby City Council Tax bill dated 11 March 2020 for the accommodation section and only the correspondence you've suggested.

FINANCES: Category A: Employment Income
Mandatory
- 7 months of payslips dated 29th December to 29th June
- Letter from the university verifying each payslip
- 7 months of original bank statements dated 12th December to 12th July (if printed from online banking they must be stamped by the bank on EVERY page)
- Letter from University of Nottingham, confirming sponsor’s employment under a permanent contract, a start date, current position and annual salary, dated 15 July 2020
Optional but recommended:
- job contract
- May 2020 P60

Thank you so much for picking up on that. We will include the December payslip and the Dec-Jan bank statement showing that deposit in addition to the others we listed previously. We'll draft a letter with the details you've specified below and send the text to HR so they can review it and add it to a new letter:

The letter MUST list every payslip, including:
- the payslip date
- pay period
- gross pay
- net pay
- date paid into bank account.

If any dates or amounts are different from the bank statement deposit, this must be explained.

Fortunately, all the payslip dates/amounts match the deposit dates/amounts on the bank statement exactly.

OTHER
- Marriage certificate
- any divorce decrees if either of you has been married before

As it happens, after 8 years living together in the US and UK - we're still unmarried partners and have never been married before. This is where we would have uploaded photos of us as a couple or letters of support etc, if you'd suggested that was needed. Just to confirm - although we're applying as unmarried partners, we should just leave this section blank?

We can't thank you enough for this thorough review @ksand24! There are definitely a few things that would have caught us out...

No problem . Just realised that the title of your thread is FLR(UP) - I didn't realise you were Ummarried Partners when I replied, so ignore the Marriage Certificate part.

Just to let you know that there is actually no such visa called FLR(UP)... it's simply FLR(M), which covers ALL partner visas, married or not.

Got it - we hadn't actually read/signed these declaration forms yet! Thanks for pointing out that Part 3 doesn't apply.

Part 3 catches a lot of people out. It is only for the situation where a third party (not you or your partner) is supplying financial support to meet the visa requirements. However, third party support is not allowed UNLESS you are exempt from meeting the financial requirements due to the sponsor receiving certain UK benefits, and you are relying on 'Adequate Maintenance' instead.

Brilliant -  you're right we were making this too complicated! Presumably it's okay that the tenancy agreement was only ever issued to us as a PDF? We'll upload that along with the Derby City Council Tax bill dated 11 March 2020 for the accommodation section and only the correspondence you've suggested.

If the PDF is all you have, then it's all you can provide. Others have been fine with providing an electronic tenancy agreement.

Thank you so much for picking up on that. We will include the December payslip and the Dec-Jan bank statement showing that deposit in addition to the others we listed previously. We'll draft a letter with the details you've specified below and send the text to HR so they can review it and add it to a new letter.

Fortunately, all the payslip dates/amounts match the deposit dates/amounts on the bank statement exactly.

Great .

Normally, the payslip verification would be included in the main employer letter so that you only have to provide the one letter. It's fine to have 2 letters if the payslip verification is done separately, but they can both be combined into 1 letter if you want/if that's an option.

As it happens, after 8 years living together in the US and UK - we're still unmarried partners and have never been married before. This is where we would have uploaded photos of us as a couple or letters of support etc, if you'd suggested that was needed. Just to confirm - although we're applying as unmarried partners, we should just leave this section blank?

Yes, leave the OTHER section blank, unless you have any other types of documents you need to include, such as police records if you have any convictions, evidence of your children if you have any kids etc.

As unmarried partners you just ignore the marriage certificate part and just include the 6 items of correspondence for your relationship evidence.

In fact, as you applied as Unmarried Partners last time, and since you had been living together for several years already when you applied, a lot of the extra relationship documents the solicitor told you to send should NOT have been included (you were correct to think it was overkill).

For your initial Unmarried Partner visa, the ONLY relationship documents you actually needed were:
- 1 or 2 photos of you and your partner together to prove you had met in person (no more than 2 photos should be sent)
- 24 months of evidence of living together continuously <- this is the important part

Letters from family/friends CANNOT be considered at all and will not be looked at. The ONLY letter that would have been considered was the mandatory one from the UK sponsor (which is not needed for FLR(M)).

Thanks again @ksand24!! I think we're nearly there! Hopefully we'll be able to hit 'submit' by next weekend...

If the PDF is all you have, then it's all you can provide. Others have been fine with providing an electronic tenancy agreement.

Thank you for confirming that!

Normally, the payslip verification would be included in the main employer letter so that you only have to provide the one letter. It's fine to have 2 letters if the payslip verification is done separately, but they can both be combined into 1 letter if you want/if that's an option.

HR were surprisingly quick with the letters the last time (they opted to send two to cover the employment and then the payslip certification). The May 2020 P60 was available to download so we'll upload that - thank you for the suggestion. We've just sent off an email requesting the revised payslip verification letter and asking for a copy of the employment contract so hopefully we can include that too. Unfortunately a hard copy is in his office at the medical school which is inaccessible at the moment.

Yes, leave the OTHER section blank, unless you have any other types of documents you need to include, such as police records if you have any convictions, evidence of your children if you have any kids etc.

As unmarried partners you just ignore the marriage certificate part and just include the 6 items of correspondence for your relationship evidence.

Thank you - yes, we'll leave this blank.

In fact, as you applied as Unmarried Partners last time, and since you had been living together for several years already when you applied, a lot of the extra relationship documents the solicitor told you to send should NOT have been included (you were correct to think it was overkill).

For your initial Unmarried Partner visa, the ONLY relationship documents you actually needed were:
- 1 or 2 photos of you and your partner together to prove you had met in person (no more than 2 photos should be sent)
- 24 months of evidence of living together continuously <- this is the important part

Letters from family/friends CANNOT be considered at all and will not be looked at. The ONLY letter that would have been considered was the mandatory one from the UK sponsor (which is not needed for FLR(M)).

And that's exactly why we've come to this forum instead of spending any more £££ on a solicitor. Our last application added up to 700+ pages with the vast majority of that likely having been totally unnecessary. The only silver lining was that the VFS staff at the PAC in DC had to scan every last one of those pages. 

Again, thank you very much for lending us your expertise 

HR were surprisingly quick with the letters the last time (they opted to send two to cover the employment and then the payslip certification). The May 2020 P60 was available to download so we'll upload that - thank you for the suggestion. We've just sent off an email requesting the revised payslip verification letter and asking for a copy of the employment contract so hopefully we can include that too. Unfortunately a hard copy is in his office at the medical school which is inaccessible at the moment.

If the P60 is online, it will also need to be verified in the employer letter. Basically, anything that is not an original official financial document must be authenticated.

And that's exactly why we've come to this forum instead of spending any more £££ on a solicitor. Our last application added up to 700+ pages with the vast majority of that likely having been totally unnecessary. The only silver lining was that the VFS staff at the PAC in DC had to scan every last one of those pages. 

Wow, 700 pages?! Yeah, that is massive overkill . Poor VFS staff... at least you didn't have to upload them all yourself though.

Hello again! Ugh we're back at this already?! 

Best of luck! I hope your application process goes smoothly and is less stressful than the previous one by far!

lol thanks @Dani618 at least this time around we won’t be stuck in limbo while we wait! These past couple years have just flow by - hope you and yours are doing well

@ksand24  please help!

HR weren't as quick to get back to us this time around... They've prepared a new letter but it looks like we're only going to be able to get it electronically signed if we want to upload everything this week. Will this be considered acceptable or do we need to implore them to send a hard copy or scan with a wet signature?

I have updated your payslip letter with the table you provided. I have checked the information on it. Please see attached.

Unfortunately, I am unable to print, sign and scan and send the hard copy of the letter due to working from home. I was only able to this last time because I had a pre-authorised one off office visit to complete some urgent work.

If it is essential that it is printed and signed and they are unable to accept this, please let me know and I will see what I can do.

@ksand24  please help!

HR weren't as quick to get back to us this time around... They've prepared a new letter but it looks like we're only going to be able to get it electronically signed if we want to upload everything this week. Will this be considered acceptable or do we need to implore them to send a hard copy or scan with a wet signature?

Technically, it should have a wet signature, however they are making some allowances for the documents due to Covid if you can’t get all the documents in the normal format.

So, what I would do is upload the electronic copy and also include either a note along with it explaining why it does not have the signature, and/or include the email they sent explaining that they are unable to send a hard copy with a wet signature.


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Thank you @ksand24! That’s what we’ll do🤞