ILR - Timing Question - HELP!

Congratulations!

Thank you!

Congratulations to her .

Yes, that should be fine.

The October payslip just needs to be dated no more than 28 days before the date you submit the online application, and the first payslip (April) needs to cover the first day of the 6 months.

You should cover the entire 2.5 years, so you’ll need to go back to April 2020 so that the beginning of the 2.5 years is covered too… otherwise you’re only showing 2 years and 1 month (Sept 2020 to Oct 2022).

So you’ll want:
April 2020
September 2020
February 2021
July 2021
December 2021
May 2022
October 2022

You should be okay to upload it straight as it is.


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Thank you Ksand. I've started gathering the mail items so I'll post a list of what I have once I have these ready, noting the fact that I'll have to wait till October for some of these documents.

For the pay slip thing and covering 6 months, I recall doing 8 month's worth of pay slips last time. My April pay slip covers the pay period from 01/04/2022 to 30/04/2022. So will that be OK if I submit pay slips from April to October with the corresponding bank statements? This bit is the bit that has always confused me and I recall you advising me last time, so appreciate it!

For the pay slip thing and covering 6 months, I recall doing 8 month's worth of pay slips last time. My April pay slip covers the pay period from 01/04/2022 to 30/04/2022. So will that be OK if I submit pay slips from April to October with the corresponding bank statements? This bit is the bit that has always confused me and I recall you advising me last time, so appreciate it!

Yes that should be fine, but you’ll just need to check that every single day between 30th April and 31st October is explicitly covered on the payslips

Basically, what you need to do is take the date of the last payslip and then count back to the date exactly 6 months prior, and make sure that the first payslip covers that date.

For example,
- the last payslip is dated 31st October
- 6 months prior to 31st October is 30th April
- so the first payslip must explicitly cover 30th April


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Yes that should be fine, but you’ll just need to check that every single day between 30th April and 31st October is explicitly covered on the payslips

Basically, what you need to do is take the date of the last payslip and then count back to the date exactly 6 months prior, and make sure that the first payslip covers that date.

For example,
- the last payslip is dated 31st October
- 6 months prior to 31st October is 30th April
- so the first payslip must explicitly cover 30th April


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Thanks Ksand. Another basic question has popped up. Can my wife travel after we've submitted the application online? I.e. can she leave the country between then and the biometrics appointment? Or is she restricted as soon as we've submitted the application and paid?

Congratulations to her .

Yes, that should be fine.

The October payslip just needs to be dated no more than 28 days before the date you submit the online application, and the first payslip (April) needs to cover the first day of the 6 months.

You should cover the entire 2.5 years, so you’ll need to go back to April 2020 so that the beginning of the 2.5 years is covered too… otherwise you’re only showing 2 years and 1 month (Sept 2020 to Oct 2022).

So you’ll want:
April 2020
September 2020
February 2021
July 2021
December 2021
May 2022
October 2022

You should be okay to upload it straight as it is.


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Hi Ksand and everyone else. I just wanted a quick sense check to see if I've got everything and the variety of documents are sufficient?!
So we have the following docs:

April 2020: Wife - Virgin Media Phone Bill (Bill date 21 April 2020), Me - HSBC Bank Statement (16 March - 15th April)
September 2020: Wife - Barclays Bank Statement (14th August - 11th September 2020), Me - Barclays Bank Statement (28th August - 30th Sept)
February 2021: Affinity Water Bill (Joint names)
July 2021: Need to fill this gap but worst case scenario we'll go with Barclays bank statements individually like September 2020
December 2021: Wife - NHS Letter from Department of Health & Social Care asking her to participate in Covid research (Will this suffice?) Me - HSBC Bank Statement (16th November - 15th December)
May 2022: Wife - Virgin Media Phone Bill (Bill date 23 May 2022) Me - DVLA letter regarding driving licence renewal (23rd May 2022)
October 2022: Wife - HSBC Bank Statement (3 September - 2 October) Me - Letter from Santander confirming online banking (6th October)

OK found some further docs now:
April 2020: Wife - Virgin Media Phone Bill (Bill date 21 April 2020), Me - HSBC Bank Statement (16 March - 15th April)
September 2020: Wife - Barclays Bank Statement (14th August - 11th September 2020), Me - Barclays Bank Statement (28th August - 30th Sept)
February 2021: Affinity Water Bill (Joint names)
July 2021: Letter from Halifax informing us that our fixed rate mortgage was coming to an end (Joint Names)
December 2021: Wife - NHS Letter from Department of Health & Social Care asking her to participate in Covid research (Will this suffice?) Me - HSBC Bank Statement (16th November - 15th December)
May 2022: Wife - Virgin Media Phone Bill (Bill date 23 May 2022) Me - DVLA letter regarding driving licence renewal (23rd May 2022)
October 2022: Wife - HSBC Bank Statement (3 September - 2 October) Me - Letter from Santander confirming online banking (6th October)

OK found some further docs now:
April 2020: Wife - Virgin Media Phone Bill (Bill date 21 April 2020), Me - HSBC Bank Statement (16 March - 15th April)
September 2020: Wife - Barclays Bank Statement (14th August - 11th September 2020), Me - Barclays Bank Statement (28th August - 30th Sept)
February 2021: Affinity Water Bill (Joint names)
July 2021: Letter from Halifax informing us that our fixed rate mortgage was coming to an end (Joint Names)
December 2021: Wife - NHS Letter from Department of Health & Social Care asking her to participate in Covid research (Will this suffice?) Me - HSBC Bank Statement (16th November - 15th December)
May 2022: Wife - Virgin Media Phone Bill (Bill date 23 May 2022) Me - DVLA letter regarding driving licence renewal (23rd May 2022)
October 2022: Wife - HSBC Bank Statement (3 September - 2 October) Me - Letter from Santander confirming online banking (6th October)

Those all look good to me.

They're evenly-spaced, you have enough documents in each name, and you have 5 different sources .

Those all look good to me.

They're evenly-spaced, you have enough documents in each name, and you have 5 different sources .

Thanks Ksand.

We seem to have found ourselves in a bit of a pickle. Unfortunately the company I work for is restructuring and I know for sure that my job will be impacted. It's likely that my last day will be before the end of the month, I haven't received official notice yet but I work in HR so I know it's happening unfortunately.

Now we plan to apply this weekend (all being well documents wise and also from a priority appointments perspective). As long as we've applied while I'm employed, I assume we're OK? We have the employer verification letter detailing the salary earned, full time position, and all the pay periods and pay dates and all other relevant dates.

Are you aware of the UKVI contacting the employer? We are a remote organisation and the people who have provided the verification letter are also impacted by the restructuring. We're concerned just in case they do contact the employer after I've left. Again, hoping that we can get priority (fast track) appointments and we'll be paying the £800.

Please help!

We seem to have found ourselves in a bit of a pickle. Unfortunately the company I work for is restructuring and I know for sure that my job will be impacted. It's likely that my last day will be before the end of the month, I haven't received official notice yet but I work in HR so I know it's happening unfortunately.

Sorry to hear that .

Now we plan to apply this weekend (all being well documents wise and also from a priority appointments perspective). As long as we've applied while I'm employed, I assume we're OK? We have the employer verification letter detailing the salary earned, full time position, and all the pay periods and pay dates and all other relevant dates.

The thing is, you need to continue to meet the visa requirements throughout the ILR processing time, right up until the visa is issued. Part of the employment requirement is that your current job is expected to continue for the foreseeable future (I.e. permanent contract with no specified end date).

While I haven’t heard of employers being contacted in general, if UKVI do discover during the visa processing time that you no longer have the job you are relying on for the finances, they can refuse the visa on the grounds that you no longer meet the visa requirements.

If you can apply with Super Priority, attend a biometrics appointment, and get the visa before your last day at work, you should be okay, as you will still be employed by your company on the day the visa is granted.

Alternatively, do you have any other way of meeting the financial requirement that doesn’t involve using your income?

For example, does your spouse have a job that can meet the requirement on its own? Or do you have £34,600 in cash savings (held for at least 6 months) that you could use?

Sorry to hear that .

The thing is, you need to continue to meet the visa requirements throughout the ILR processing time, right up until the visa is issued. Part of the employment requirement is that your current job is expected to continue for the foreseeable future (I.e. permanent contract with no specified end date).

While I haven’t heard of employers being contacted in general, if UKVI do discover during the visa processing time that you no longer have the job you are relying on for the finances, they can refuse the visa on the grounds that you no longer meet the visa requirements.

If you can apply with Super Priority, attend a biometrics appointment, and get the visa before your last day at work, you should be okay, as you will still be employed by your company on the day the visa is granted.

Alternatively, do you have any other way of meeting the financial requirement that doesn’t involve using your income?

For example, does your spouse have a job that can meet the requirement on its own? Or do you have £34,600 in cash savings (held for at least 6 months) that you could use?

Hi Ksand,

My spouse does work but she's been on maternity leave and returned to work in June. She's been working part time since her return. That being said she received a pay increase effective September and the pro-rated part time salary is above £18,600. I'd need to check if the previous salary was above the threshold so I doubt it. Worst case scenario could we push our application back until March (BRP expiry date) and include everything from September to February 2023?

Also what happens if I do manage to secure a new job say immediately. I'm sure this happens generally speaking but would I be able to show pay slips from two sources of employment? (explaining that I was made redundant but highlighting how my new job and salary exceeds the requirements)?

Hi Ksand,

My spouse does work but she's been on maternity leave and returned to work in June. She's been working part time since her return. That being said she received a pay increase effective September and the pro-rated part time salary is above £18,600. I'd need to check if the previous salary was above the threshold so I doubt it. Worst case scenario could we push our application back until March (BRP expiry date) and include everything from September to February 2023?

Also what happens if I do manage to secure a new job say immediately. I'm sure this happens generally speaking but would I be able to show pay slips from two sources of employment? (explaining that I was made redundant but highlighting how my new job and salary exceeds the requirements)?

With your wife’s income and/or a new job from you you could probably make it work by applying under Category B instead of Category A.

Category B is when:
- you have been with your current employer for LESS than 6 months
and/or
- you have been earning at least £18,600 for LESS than 6 months (I.e. a recent salary increase to take you above £18,600)
and/or
- your monthly income is variable (some months it’s above the threshold, some months it’s below).

For Category B you need to show the following:
- a total of £18,600 or more (before tax) earned in total between you in the last 12 months
AND
- one of you has a current job paying at least £18,600 per year, even if you have held that job and/or earned that salary for less than 6 months

And you provide
- 12 months of payslips and bank statements showing at least £18,600 earned (yours and/or hers
- letter from current employer confirming at least £18,600 income per year (either hers, or yours if you get a new job)
- current job contract
- latest P60
- if any payslips from a previous employer were electronically issued, you would also need a letter from them confirming their authenticity.

If you can meet Category B using your wife’s current income plus the last 12 months of your income or both your incomes combined, you could likely apply now without having to wait until next year… you’d just need to make sure you got all your wife’s documents sorted first.


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Thank you Ksand

That gives us a back up plan if worst comes to worst.

I know it's a bit of a calculated risk but my preference is to go with our original plan. I'll try to negotiate for a later exit date to give us that buffer time. I've seen a few threads where if you apply after midnight on Saturday nights, priority slots become free? I've always had this weekend in mind.

I will come back to this issue though, I still need to gather some bank statements from the HSBC branch as they went paperless for two months this summer.

One last question and this is regarding the house title deeds. The original one we got with the house is what we used for FLR and I still have the digital scanned version of that. We have remortgaged and it's with a different lender so the charge has been updated. When I went to Land Registry and ordered a soft copy for the most recent one, it did say in big letters This is not an official copy. It does not take into account if there’s a pending application with HM Land Registry. If you need to prove property ownership, for example, for a court case, you’ll need to order an official copy of the register.

Does that mean that this version can't be used and we have to order it in the post? Or can we use the original version used previously?

I've seen a few threads where if you apply after midnight on Saturday nights, priority slots become free? I've always had this weekend in mind.

Slots are released every night at midnight (12am).

The mention of Saturday that you may have seen was me posting about the clocks changing last weekend. During daylight savings time, the slots were released at 1am every night, but when the clocks changed last Saturday night, it should have gone back to the slots being released at midnight (because we believe the UKVI website system is set to GMT/UTC time year-round).

One last question and this is regarding the house title deeds. The original one we got with the house is what we used for FLR and I still have the digital scanned version of that. We have remortgaged and it's with a different lender so the charge has been updated. When I went to Land Registry and ordered a soft copy for the most recent one, it did say in big letters This is not an official copy. It does not take into account if there’s a pending application with HM Land Registry. If you need to prove property ownership, for example, for a court case, you’ll need to order an official copy of the register.

Does that mean that this version can't be used and we have to order it in the post? Or can we use the original version used previously?

No, you can use either the original digital version from when you bought the house, or you can use the £3 downloaded copy from the Land Registry website.


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Ksand I'm hoping for a positive update job wise in that my exit date might be December rather than November which should hopefully be enough time to get everything done fingers crossed!

I wanted to check something with you regarding HSBC Bank statements. Unbeknown to me HSBC decided to enforce paperless bank statements this summer so my May and June bank statements didn't come through the post. I turned these back on for July. So I went into my local branch and got these printed off there.

I asked the bank to provide me with a statement from 15th October to today's date but they said they're not able to do that. So I had the statement effective date changed to the 4th. If it's not available on Saturday it will be available on Monday but I'll have to go and print it.

Just wanted to check that statements printed in branch are OK to be used? The fonts used are different to the ones I receive in the post so wanted to check!

Ksand do you think we're good on the bank statements?

Or do you suggest ordering them in the post from HSBC? Basically three of them will be printed in branch from the machine with no stamping/verification.