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When to start visa process for husband...how soon is too soon?
« on: February 03, 2005, 09:58:23 AM »
OK...so we finally got here to the UK officially and now it is time to start plotting how we're going to get back to the US! We would like to move back in a year or so (I've given myself up to 2 years. If my 16 year-old comes over and finishes her two more years of school here then there is no problem, but she really doesn't want to move here if she doesn't have to, but doesn't want to spend any more time than she needs to with my mom, as it is quite tense...as is any relationship with a teenage girl!) and we're wondering when to start the process to obtain a visa for my husband. He will need documentation from the former USSR (he left right after graduating from university and sought asylum in Hungary before the dissolution of the USSR. He still has his mom living in Moscow) and also documentation from Hungary. So, we moved this way as it was the fastest solution to getting together as we had already had two years of transatlantic relationship angst and know it is going to take some time for the US visa process to be completed.

I guess my question centers around my remembering a post that mentioned it is frowned upon to move to the UK and then seek a settlement visa for your spouse to move to the US right away. Any info or comments will be greatly appreciated!


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Re: When to start visa process for husband...how soon is too soon?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2005, 04:55:14 PM »
It looks like they're trying to institute a rule (albeit an unwritten one, from what I can tell!   ::)) that limits the DCF process to people with ILR.  So, you'll need to be here at least two years before you start the process.  I would guess that you could start it when you're pretty close to the two years. 


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Re: When to start visa process for husband...how soon is too soon?
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2005, 12:32:20 PM »
Hmmmm...I am really going to have to dig up as much as I can on this. If it weren't for my teenage daughter I wouldn't worry about the time scale....I hope she decides that she wants to move once she comes to visit this spring! It is just that we're figuring that it is going to take atleast a year for the process under the circumstances (we could be wrong) so if we do have to wait 2 years from my official move here, then it takes another year, it won't be an issue as she'll be out of highschool anyway! I just miss her (and my other two) horribly.


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Re: When to start visa process for husband...how soon is too soon?
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2005, 12:33:27 PM »
Don't quote me on this, but I don't think DCF takes a year.  It's more like 5-6 months.  I'm sure there's a timeline (I'll bet Marlespro did one!) over in Repatriation.


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Re: When to start visa process for husband...how soon is too soon?
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2005, 12:37:40 PM »
We need to get police records from Russia...which could take months I guess (from what I have read.)  Also records from Hungary, but he can fly there more easily to obtain those if need be. Just getting originals translated CORRECTLY into English is a hurdle as his name was misspelled several times in the translations from Russian into Hungarian. So, I think it will take a bit longer than someone getting records from the UK. Hopefully wrong, but like I said...there is no issue if we can't move back while she is still in highschool.


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Re: When to start visa process for husband...how soon is too soon?
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2005, 12:40:41 PM »
Also, about your daughter - kids finish up school here at 16.  So if she moved here you'd probably have to put her in one of the American schools (like onetiger works at).  
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Re: When to start visa process for husband...how soon is too soon?
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2005, 12:46:04 PM »
we've spoken with Newcastle College and there are some programs there she is interested in.

In a way it is a good time for her to move schools, but she really wants to stay in her hometown for the last two years of high school and graduate with them...prom...etc. My son is going to Northumbria University next year, so he will be here! My eldest son is still going to university in the states. Guess I just need to get used to the fact that they would be "scattered" even if I hadn't moved. So, that is why I worry about my daughter however...plus her dad is heaping tons of guilt on me (I am selfish etc.) If he had stayed in the same town instead of moving 5-6 hours away to marry a woman then she could have stayed with him and there wouldn't be as much trauma for the two of us!


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Re: When to start visa process for husband...how soon is too soon?
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2005, 10:59:23 PM »
Heya,

Firstly, according to a Consular officer at the Embassy that I spoke with (the same guy who denied my DCF because we weren't here long enough!), you only need to be here for around a year minimum before you start filing for DCF, but this does depend on your circumstances and how they are feeling when they look at your application!  However, here's what I'd do in your situation (after exploring virtually every option available, I should be relatively accurate!!):

- If you wanna move back to the USA *as soon as possible*:  File your I-130 Petition soon with a US Service Centre that services your mothers address in the US.  So, for example, if she lives on the West coast, file with the California Service Centre.  Put on the I-130 that YOU live at that address in the US and that your husband lives here in the UK.  Don't worry - the form is only asking for your "permanent" address, and since you only just got here, the USA is still your permanent address.  That should get approved within 4 to 6 months (depending on the service centre), and you should use that time to get your police certificates, etc.  After that they will start Administrative Processing at the London Embassy.  That process could take anywhere from 2-4 months, depending how fast you respond, if you have all your docs yet and how busy they are.  So theorectically you could have the visa between 6 and 10 months (subject to immigration delays, and assuming you are a full US Citizen and that your husband has full UK residence).  The fact that your husband only just got here could be frowned upon, but as long as he has good reasons and you can show police reports, etc, for all countries, you should be okay.  All US Citizens have a right to have their spouses with them, no matter how many countries their spouse has previously lived in, or for how long!  ANY US Citizen can file in the US - only the DCF is a "privilege".

- If you want to wait a little longer, you can wait just over a year, then file the DCF.  This will take about 3 months to process the I-130.  However, this method is still a little riskier as they may still see it as "abusing" the privilege as your husband isn't a British Citizen.

Personally, in your situation, I would use the first option above.  It's the surest way to get the visa.  Also, remember that all documents may have a validity - for example UK Police certificates are only valid for 12 months, as are the I-864 Affidavits of Support.

Thanks!

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OK...so we finally got here to the UK officially and now it is time to start plotting how we're going to get back to the US! We would like to move back in a year or so (I've given myself up to 2 years. If my 16 year-old comes over and finishes her two more years of school here then there is no problem, but she really doesn't want to move here if she doesn't have to, but doesn't want to spend any more time than she needs to with my mom, as it is quite tense...as is any relationship with a teenage girl!) and we're wondering when to start the process to obtain a visa for my husband. He will need documentation from the former USSR (he left right after graduating from university and sought asylum in Hungary before the dissolution of the USSR. He still has his mom living in Moscow) and also documentation from Hungary. So, we moved this way as it was the fastest solution to getting together as we had already had two years of transatlantic relationship angst and know it is going to take some time for the US visa process to be completed.

I guess my question centers around my remembering a post that mentioned it is frowned upon to move to the UK and then seek a settlement visa for your spouse to move to the US right away. Any info or comments will be greatly appreciated!


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Re: When to start visa process for husband...how soon is too soon?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2005, 09:48:29 AM »
Emmy...thanks for your input. My husband has lived and worked in the UK for 4-5 years. He has indefinite leave to remain. He was previously going to apply for british citizenship but once Hungary joined the EU last year (he has a Hungarian passport) he decided he really didn't need to since we will ultimately go to the US (we guess!) I am still a full US citizen, and own my home on the east coast outright.  That is where my mom is living with my older kids for now. Well, I can discuss this will hubby tonight. There are so many variables to consider when deciding where we want to live! No job there for him...looks like it will be hard for me to find a job here. I own a large home there...there is a mortgage for our small home here. No family babysitters here! etc...etc...etc...

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Re: When to start visa process for husband...how soon is too soon?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2005, 10:35:31 AM »
No problem! :)

By the way, how long have *you* been in the UK, and what's your status here?

Thanks!

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Re: When to start visa process for husband...how soon is too soon?
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2005, 09:52:47 AM »
I have been in the UK on and off for the past few years...for NIN purposes they used my first part of Sept. of this year date for some reason even though I was only here as a visitor officially, and when I was home over Christmas we went to NY and got a visa as an EEA dependent. Does that make any difference?


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Re: When to start visa process for husband...how soon is too soon?
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2005, 04:45:42 PM »
Doesn't really make a difference if you file with a US Service Centre.  If you only just got your Leave to Remain for the UK at Christmas, you can't really do a DCF filing anyway...

I still recommend filing with the US Service Centre and indicating that your "permanent" address is in the USA.  Your husband could have his visa in a matter of 6-8 months, assuming that everything goes well and you submit all the correct documents and no further requests for evidence are required - it pays to get it right the first time and include as much info as you can.  Remember though that you only have 6 months to use the visa from date-of-issuance!

Thanks!


S.


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