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Re: Journey to Dual Citizenship
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2003, 09:50:37 PM »
One of the benefits is also that with British citizenship you are eligible for posts in certain government-type agencies.  Such as the Crown Prosecution Service, serving as a Police Officer, working for the Home Office (  ;) ), and a few other places I would have liked to apply for but can't because of the citizenship requirement.  The fact I couldn't apply for a perfect position with the CPS just gutted me.  But in just a few short years...!   ;D
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Re: Journey to Dual Citizenship
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2003, 11:53:49 AM »
I think we're all waiting with baited breath to find out if barbara_g has gotten her naturalisation yet. She posted on Aug 27 stating that she'd received the oath papers in the post on the 14th.

More so I think *I* am waiting to find out because I took the bold step to do this as well. My oath did not come through as quickly as Barbara's. My initial paperwork was with them for about two weeks...despite saying they were now serving people who'd applied in Dec 2002, and that it would take eight months at least.

I received my oath on Wednesday, Oct 8, and posted everything back straight away. The next step is to get a form back from them stating I am now a naturalised citizen and include documents to allow me to apply for a British passport.

Might be interesting to know abit more about how to do it and what goes on...

This was my experience and it seems to parallel for the most part what Barbara has done/discovered/experienced.

I'd lived here longer than the minimum three years, but the paperwork only needed to be filled in for the past three years (the "qualifying" years). Good news in that I didn't have to detail as much as I thought I would. For instance, I had to list all my visits in and out of the country, the dates and the purpose. Other things the form needs are dates and places of your parents' birth, your spouse's birth, your divorce(s), your spouse's divorce(s). You will also need to find two British people "of good character" who have known you at least three years. You'll have to report any criminal pasts, or court judgements. If you brought children with you and they are under 18, you can include them in this one application.

It cost me £120.

Having gathered all this information, references from two people, plus originals of passports (both), marriage certificate and birth certficate (spouse's), I sent all this with the money to the Home Office.

I have to add that for being another round of red tape that you have to go through, the instructions are very clear and relatively easy-to-follow.

Also, as Barbara mentioned, you can go to a solicitor's office and have "certified" copies made of documents you don't want sent through the post. All they do is photocopy them and them stamp each page and sign as being official copies. We walked into a solicitor's office, one we've used before but we didn't say that so we could have been strangers off the street, and we were not charged at all. Not even for the copies.

A couple days after I sent off the application, I got a note (look for the plain envelopes from Liverpool in your post) from the Home Office stating they'd received my things (and listed what they had) and that they were working on the application, but not to get too excited because these things take time and they had a lot of applications before mine. That if I needed to have any documents sent back, they could be requested in the meantime. (I suspect in this case they'd do what the solitors did and take photocopies and mark that they were genunine.)

Within 10 days or so beyond that I got the oath. It's a piece of paper that gives you a couple options to read. Take it to a solicitor and read your choice there in front of him/her. Then he/she signs, you sign, he/she stamps it and then you drop it in the post. They even send you a mailing label to use.

As I mentioned, you're given two options to read. One is an oath that you give to God giving your allegiance to the Queen. The other is an affirmation that you give your allegiance to the Queen. In other words, one's religious, the other isn't.

Well, I posted it off Wednesday, as I wrote earlier. The next day I received all of my documents back with a note that everything seemed to be fine and that barring any last-minute discoveries up until they actually send the naturalisation papers, that my application has been approved and all I need do now is wait.

So this is why I've been waiting for Barbara to let us know if she got her papers through yet. If she got her oath on Aug 14, is she still waiting (almost two months later)?

I'll let you know what happens during the next stage. But I suspect the REAL paperwork begins once I get the papers to apply for a British passport. That requires two photos, a reference from someone of great standing, etc. And then who knows how long that whole process will take. I'm going to go out on a loose limb and predict the whole thing, from filling out papers to getting a British passport will have taken me four months. But I don't think the Home Office wants that advertised too loudly, considering the warnings of delays in processing.

I suspect that it was made much easier for them because my application was a no-brainer 'married a Brit' application, and that I'd been here a while and I've got credit established.
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Re: Journey to Dual Citizenship
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2003, 01:08:38 PM »
:-[ With utter embarassement and apologies, things have been pretty hectic around here!  I received my "Certificate of naturalisation" on the 6th of October (although it is date 4 September 2003 and that's when it is valid from).  Painless procedure to go through and it seems like, from what I've read on other sites, that the applications are being processed fairly quickly. Just answer all the questions and there shouldn't be any problems!

Now I just need to get a passport, hubby has added me to the electoral roll. Time to plan the "Naturalisation" Party!!


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Re: Journey to Dual Citizenship
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2003, 01:13:44 PM »
Woowoo!!! Way to go! Okay, so I'm guessing it won't come for another month then.

(No need to apologize!)

Have you actually filled in the paperwork for the passport and sent that off? Is it complicated?
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Re: Journey to Dual Citizenship
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2003, 01:52:05 PM »
passport application was sent with certificate, 4 pages, nothing to complicated, list of fees along with application. looks like it takes about 3 weeks for it to be processed. guess i'll do that today.

Oh and the certificate comes in a large plain white envelope!


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Re: Journey to Dual Citizenship
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2003, 03:34:11 PM »
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Well I'm outta luck then, I've only known family members over here for 3 years.  :P

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Re: Journey to Dual Citizenship
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2003, 02:44:01 PM »
wench, I can introduce you to some of our friends - one is a mental health nurse, I figure he'll be a GREAT reference when the time comes...!
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Re: Journey to Dual Citizenship
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2003, 03:10:25 PM »
LOL!  Oi, a mental health nurse, whatcha trying to say???  ;)

I could use my bosses for references, but they've not known me for 3 years.  Or is the time not important?
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Re: Journey to Dual Citizenship
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2003, 06:59:30 AM »
Good luck Wench!  


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Re: Journey to Dual Citizenship
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2003, 06:48:47 PM »
Thank you.  :)
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Re: Journey to Dual Citizenship
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2003, 06:26:15 PM »
We thought that if Mark takes British citizenship, we would ask our upstairs neighbour to be a referee. Not sure who else we could use though.


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Re: Journey to Dual Citizenship
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2003, 11:34:24 AM »
I thought I would fill you in on the rest of the story. When I last left it, I was waiting for the citizenship documents to come in the post. They arrived on 3 November...the only bit of post we had that day because of the striking, but it was a good'un.  ;D

There was a nice document announcing my British citizenship, suitable for framing, looked almost like a diploma. Also enclosed was a packet to apply for a British passport. The paperwork explained that I no longer need the visas and all that stuff to come and go as long as I enter the UK with my British passport. I am still to use my American passport to enter the US since that gives me right of abode. Basically, while I am in the UK, I am treated like a British citizen and when in the US, I am treated like an American, and all that implies, legally and politically, etc.

The last stages to go through I have just put into the works. I put my name on the electoral register so I can vote (too late for this year), and I have applied for my British passport.

The paperwork is also available at the Post Office, so if you make any mistakes, you can pick up another packet. I thought it was a nice gesture that the Home Office sent me the packet along with the certificate.

It's not as long and involved, but still needs some filling in. You do need two photos and you do need someone to vouch for you. Someone of good standing (solicitor, accountant, etc.) who has known you for at least two years. They sign the document and they sign the back of one of your photos. You'll have to submit your US passport. If your passport does not have your name correct (ie still has your maiden if you've since married) then you will need to send proof of that change, like a marriage certificate.

You can post it directly to the Passport office (allow three weeks) or you can take it to your local participating Post Office or Worldchoice centre (allow two weeks) or you can take it in person to the Passport Office (allow one week).

So...here I sit, awaiting the very last leg of a journey that's taken me a few thousand miles and almost six years. I think, I hope this is the very last thing I have to do in order to be fully immersed in my newly adopted home.

Edit: Something I forgot to mention earlier. It costs £42 to apply for a passport and £5 to fast-track it through the Post Office. I don't know the fee Worldchoice charges.
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Re: Journey to Dual Citizenship
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2003, 09:19:34 AM »
GULP.
I got my passport in the post this morning!
I'm...really British now!
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Re: Journey to Dual Citizenship
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2003, 10:50:52 AM »
Way to go, Lisa!!  8),,,another milestone in the journey!


Re: Journey to Dual Citizenship
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2003, 10:55:25 AM »
Dang that was quick!!!  Congrats again!!!


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