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Re: What are Brits missing?
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2005, 02:03:53 PM »
Thanks for your replies everyone.... I guess it's hard to understand why you would want to leave US, for example don't you miss the freedoms we have in the US?

Somebody else asked me that question, and I couldn't think of any freedoms that I would be giving up to move to the UK.  Conveniences perhaps, but not freedoms.  Anyone have an example?
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Re: What are Brits missing?
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2005, 02:07:43 PM »
Can't think of any freedoms that you give up- it is just as free, if not more so, than the US.


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Re: What are Brits missing?
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2005, 02:08:06 PM »
Somebody else asked me that question, and I couldn't think of any freedoms that I would be giving up to move to the UK.  Conveniences perhaps, but not freedoms.  Anyone have an example?

Not me.  I'm as free here as I was there.  Possibly even freer - and yet even freer once I obtain citizenship and can have a voice in politics here.

MI_Friend - what freedoms are there that you seem to think exist in the US that don't exist in the UK?  ???
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Re: What are Brits missing?
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2005, 02:11:29 PM »
Hi everyone. One of the US freedoms I'm talking about is to speak out publicly against the government / freedom of speech and freedom to have what is said in the news.

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Re: What are Brits missing?
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2005, 02:15:09 PM »
Got that here in the UK, last time I looked...
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Re: What are Brits missing?
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2005, 02:26:11 PM »
Hi everyone. One of the US freedoms I'm talking about is to speak out publicly against the government / freedom of speech and freedom to have what is said in the news.

Thanks everyone :)

Many people here speak against the government.  I think even more so than in the US.

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Re: What are Brits missing?
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2005, 02:29:00 PM »
Well, if my husband had moved to the US, he would have had to leave his family/friends/what he knew behind - so it wouldn't have been any more "fair."
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Spot on as far as I'm concerned. That's pretty much exactly what my answer would be too.... I also prefer the culture here - the music, the sport, the food. And I actually prefer the weather as well. But it's all relative to you personally....

As for prices, I have 100% stopped converting in my head. I think that's just a way to make yourself insane. Besides, for me that was a big part of assimilating - I'm in the UK, these are UK prices reflective of living here. If I was still living off of my American money that would be different, but I'm not.

And our quality of life wouldn't change at all in that respect - if I were to move back I'd want to be near my family and friends and that would mean the SF Bay Area - one of the most expensive places in the US if not the world....

As for freedoms... that's got me totally perplexed. America doesn't have a corner on freedom - there are rights here too. And there are quite regularly tons and tons of protests, plenty of places to voice your opinion, and I've never felt like I couldn't say what I thought to anyone anywhere over here. And as for freedoms in the news - I know there are people who would disagree with me, but I think the news here is far far less biased and I also think the US govt. is incredibly adept at getting the news to report what they want them to report in order to keep people under control (terrorism warnings as a good example.)

Ironically, my dh would love to live in the US for a while and I'm the one putting up the fight. But he does admit that he really only wants to do it for the novelty of living in a foreign country and that in reality he probably would miss England - he's just stubborn and wants to "see for himself."  ;)
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Re: What are Brits missing?
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2005, 02:32:35 PM »
As for prices, I have 100% stopped converting in my head. I think that's just a way to make yourself insane. Besides, for me that was a big part of assimilating - I'm in the UK, these are UK prices reflective of living here. If I was still living off of my American money that would be different, but I'm not.

Exactly! 

Luckily, my DH never wants to live in the US and that's a good thing b/c that ain't ever gonna happen.


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Re: What are Brits missing?
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2005, 02:52:59 PM »
Hmmm - but don't the monarchy control the people ?

Hope these questions aren't strange - just working through things....

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Re: What are Brits missing?
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2005, 02:54:58 PM »
Hmmm - but don't the monarchy control the people ?

Huh?  No.  At least not up here.  They're too busy collecting public subsidies to be arsed.   ;D


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Re: What are Brits missing?
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2005, 02:55:31 PM »
What United Kingdom are you thinking of?  Have you been here?  Those of us living here do live in an industrialised nation in the 21st century...

Just how do you think the monarchy controls the people?!  Considering what's written about them in the press on their *good* days - I have no idea how someone could think the monarchy control ANYTHING at this point... ::)
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Re: What are Brits missing?
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2005, 02:59:49 PM »
Hmmm - but don't the monarchy control the people ?

LOL. Er... no. How so do you think they control "the people?" I would be genuinely interested in knowing 'cause that seems funny to me. They're figureheads, really.


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Re: What are Brits missing?
« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2005, 03:04:43 PM »
LOL. Er... no. How so do you think they control "the people?" I would be genuinely interested in knowing 'cause that seems funny to me. They're figureheads, really.

Don't they change the law?    I think the difference in freedom is that in US we can be outspoken (speak in public/media) against government and (if we had one) the monarchy, and not just in privacy of our home or worried about action against us.


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Re: What are Brits missing?
« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2005, 03:10:29 PM »
MI Friend- You need to remember that you are probably posting in the wrong place for this question, these answers are from people that have made a very happy move to the U.K, but weren't actually born here.

For people born here, there are differences, but that's all they are differences, not necessarily better or worse. For example as someone who was born here, the opportunity to purchase a property that could be a lot more spacious than what you can afford here is a big deal, but only for someone who actually wants to do that. For example, I am tired of having to rent a place in the part of the countryside I grew up in for the equivalent amount of mortgage I could pay on a 2-3 bedroom home to where I am going.

Depending on your partner's upbringing he also might be sick of living in an overcrowded country on top of people all of the time, but then he might just be totally used to a very metropolitan lifestyle and move to similar in the US.

For me there are other "differences" I am interested in, a general attitude is one of them, I have met many Americans who have a really positive attitude to life and "get up and go"/"can do" attitude  that some of us Brits just don't and thats a huge novelty for me.  I like it when an American who doesn't know you too well actually says "give me a call and I'll show you around" and they mean it. I also like how family orientated americans can be and back to the patriotic thing, I don't understand it myself, but I love how proud Americans (can) be of their country.

The sheer scope of the U.S is another draw, the opportunity to experience so many different areas/landscapes and the value that is in the actual experience of living abroad and providing yourselves as a family and any children the opportunity to work anywhere in the EC as well as the U.S is always a smart move in my book, that said, I also think this can be a double edged sword as you can be constantly weighing up where you might be "better off" and better off doesnt always translate into "happier" and just having the choice can make it difficult to settle in either place as you always know you can go.

I cannot think of any particular freedoms anyone would have to give up though, apart from being able to walk to a lot of places here and not being so dependent on a car! Politically speaking and otherwise, I cannot see any freedom anyone would lose, apart from not being able to vote in the US until you are naturalized.

Can you be a bit more specific about what area youre in what differences your partner might be concerned about?
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Re: What are Brits missing?
« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2005, 03:13:54 PM »
Don't they change the law?    I think the difference in freedom is that in US we can be outspoken (speak in public/media) against government and (if we had one) the monarchy, and not just in privacy of our home or worried about action against us.

No, I think someone's been feeding you misinformation! The government, not the royal family, makes and changes the law in the UK. This might help you understand it all: http://www.britischebotschaft.de/en/britain/ab_4.htm

Regarding freedom of speech, it's protected both in the US and the UK. However, I feel far more free to air my views here than I did in the US -- particularly in the post-9/11 era.
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