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Re: Kentucky anyone?
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2005, 07:10:48 AM »
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And....if there were ever a stereotype NOT debated the add on the page said....and I quote " I always thought it was the luck of the Irish..." Is that not a stereotype too???
I guess I get a double whammy for that one...I am an Irish Southern American, single mother, and God forbid, I lived in a trailer for a short time saving money to purchase my home while in my undergrad program!  :P
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Re: Kentucky anyone?
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2005, 10:15:11 AM »
excellent posts and too too funny

 ~ here's another one, some Americans truly do understand irony as Nanady has so eloquently demonstrated  ;D
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Re: Kentucky anyone?
« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2005, 11:46:26 AM »
First of all, I wound sincerely like to thank this forum for responding to my post. Next, I would like to say that I am sorry if I gave anyone the wrong impression of anything I remarked on.... it was simply not my intention.  I appreciate a joke in good taste now and then, and as a matter of fact, I have been told that I am a complete nut in that respect as well as been accused of never being serious! LOL.....I believe there is a time and a place for all things.

On the contrary, I was simply defending the southern people of the United States of America. You see, as you may have guessed, I am a southerner. I am from Memphis, Tennessee originally, now living in Kingston upon Hull for the last two years.  However, I certainly know a joke when it is in good taste and one that is outright uncouth. I know the difference.

In response to New-Dawn's quote:

Welcome Southern Boy and thank you for your sermon.

I do think however, you have the wrong forum jumping into a  light-hearted thread this way and preaching to us- it's really not on old chap, no-one here is blindly following any sort of stereotype, the people here have responded from their own viewpoint and I am more than capable of making my own mind up when I get the opportunity to visit.

In the meantime, there are a great many well travelled, educated and intelligent people on this forum and I appreciated their responses.

Now, would you like to start again?



My intention was not to impress upon anyone the tone of a sermon, but merely to express my opinion, just as I am sure you and everyone else does everyday in this forum. Obviously, I would suppose my opinion made you feel personally like there was a sermon being 'preached' to you. Further, my opinion expressed was meant for this forum in response to the remarks made here, regardless of their intent. So, no absolutely not, I do not have the wrong forum.

As far as starting over?.....what on earth for?...apparently, I have fueled the imaginations of people and their opinions for a really interesting discussion, despite giving you the wrong impression. So, in answer to your question, no, I believe my 'start' is adequate.

Contrarily, I believe it's 'really not on old dear' to suddenly and erratically reach definite conclusions based on just a few mere sentences of one's opinion, especially one that just 'started' expressing their opinion here in this forum or indeed anywhere.

Instead, would you like to start over?
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Re: Kentucky anyone?
« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2005, 11:52:11 AM »
Thank you Nanady for your response. I really appreciated everything you had to say. I admire you for being a southern woman and the fact that you have struggled so hard through life's hardships and still managed to come out on top with your studies. My hat is off to you.

As I stated, my point was, 'Never judge a book by its cover'. My response was due to the degrading remarks made to the people of Kentucky and southern people in general. These remarks in no way had any level of comparison to the much-enjoyed 'Foxworthy'. As I mentioned I am southern too, and I like most southern folk love to joke about their culture and idiosyncrasies! But I say this to you and to anyone on the planet, there is such thing as a joke in good taste and one that is not, especially when it is done about a race.

I like you believe in the celebration of being southern. Obviously, I am extremely proud of the south and the United States.

To be honest, I came to this forum to see if anyone else was in the same boat as me! LOL
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Re: Kentucky anyone?
« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2005, 01:22:30 PM »
In response to New-Dawn's quote:

My intention was not to impress upon anyone the tone of a sermon, but merely to express my opinion, just as I am sure you and everyone else does everyday in this forum. Obviously, I would suppose my opinion made you feel personally like there was a sermon being 'preached' to you. Further, my opinion expressed was meant for this forum in response to the remarks made here, regardless of their intent. So, no absolutely not, I do not have the wrong forum.

As far as starting over?.....what on earth for?...apparently, I have fueled the imaginations of people and their opinions for a really interesting discussion, despite giving you the wrong impression. So, in answer to your question, no, I believe my 'start' is adequate.

Contrarily, I believe it's 'really not on old dear' to suddenly and erratically reach definite conclusions based on just a few mere sentences of one's opinion, especially one that just 'started' expressing their opinion here in this forum or indeed anywhere.

Instead, would you like to start over?


My point was clearly missed here. It is customary and indeed shows good manners, for one's first post to be an introduction of some sort, not to just jump in and tell people not to judge books by their covers, when absolutely no-one here was doing so and if that wasn't your intent, then why the post?

You jumped into a thread without so much as a "Hi, I am so and so",  and proceeded with how it "kills you that people blindly believe in shallow stereotypes", the only people you could be referring to would be the responders on this thread.  That is what I mean't by starting over and the not on, old chap was a friendly way of expressing, "hey, back off a little, you've got the wrong end of this stick".

Well, one more sterotype shattered ~ southern people have good manners ;)


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Re: Kentucky anyone?
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2005, 02:45:06 PM »
My point was clearly missed here. It is customary and indeed shows good manners, for one's first post to be an introduction of some sort, not to just jump in and tell people not to judge books by their covers, when absolutely no-one here was doing so and if that wasn't your intent, then why the post?

You jumped into a thread without so much as a "Hi, I am so and so",  and proceeded with how it "kills you that people blindly believe in shallow stereotypes", the only people you could be referring to would be the responders on this thread.  That is what I mean't by starting over and the not on, old chap was a friendly way of expressing, "hey, back off a little, you've got the wrong end of this stick".

Well, one more sterotype shattered ~ southern people have good manners ;)





As I said, my intent was only to express my opinion, just as you or anyone else has done in this forum.
 
So, excuse me, but who are you or anyone else to say how this forum is to be directed? Or what etiquette is to be used? And indeed who are you to speak on everyone's behalf? I believe you are just a person like anyone else here.  I owe neither you nor anyone else to act or be a certain way they deem to believe is the right or wrong way to post a reply whether it is my first or one hundredth.

At any rate, I have obviously already started replies in post here in this forum that have apparently received good responses, even yours, regardless of your need to control who you think may deem to have good manners or not. I believe it is my point that you have missed once again.

Furthemore, I am well aware of the saying of, 'not on old chap' and I am also well aware of that British phrase and certainly many others which can be used in a friendly connotation or in your case unfortunately, negative.

Finally,  you did not shatter my perception stereotype of some southern British people, instead only bolstered my belief that most of you are simply rude.
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Re: Kentucky anyone?
« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2005, 04:06:01 PM »
Err, SouthernBoy, you do know that this forum is comprised mainly of Americans living in the U.K.?  Why then would you judge "most southern British" people by American expats living there?  I think you're guilty of perpetuating your own stereotypes.

Also, there is a board for introducing yourself here, and most folks do at least put in a, "How do you do, my name is..." before jumping into the fray.  I like to do so on any discussion board I participate in, simply because it tends to show I'm not just a "troll" jumping in to stir up controversey, with no intention of actually cultivating thoughtful discussion.  It's just good "netiquette."

Before you go off half-cocked at me, I am a southerner, born and bred.  I currently live in PA since that is where my husband is from.  Thus, the screen name, which I'm sure you'd understand. 

I do get how you feel regarding a lot of people's ideas about southerners.  I've come across a lot of rudeness and condescenscion towards those residing below the Mason-Dixon.  Mostly, in the form of comments regarding the "backward" nature of the south, in the form of racism and poor education.

I would like to say that living here for four years in PA has greatly heightened my awareness of the fact that racism exists everywhere, here as much or more so than I ever encountered when living in TX or NC.  In fact, neighboring Boyertown has more Confederate flags (flown for nothing but racism, as they obviously have no historical/cultural claim on the symbol) than I have ever seen flown in the South.  In Philly, racism not only runs along "black/white" divides, but also Italian, Irish, and Jewish lines.  I would say racism exists in far more abundance up here than down South.  When I lived in TX, almost all my friends were black--actually, truly African-American as most were immigrants from Liberia.  Up here, although I have a few friends from different races, I'm the minority.  I've heard Hispanics get bashed particularly hard around here since there has been such an explosion in their numbers up here.  It really burns me up when I hear ugly racist remarks, especially since my brother-in-law, who just got done serving a year in Iraq for his country, is 100% of Mexican descent.

As far as lack of education, again this is more of a "rural versus urban" rather than North versus South or any other regional comparison.  Whether it's in the North, South, East, or West, what I've noticed is rural schools from poorer counties almost always lag behind their surburban and well-to-do city cousins.  Kids in Irving, TX are likely to be better educated and have more resources at their behest than do, say the kids from Oley, PA.  Simply because the schools in the former case come from a community far larger and wealthier than the latter, which is a very rural area, and poorer area.

Another thing: since there is a huge trend of people moving from North to South and from other areas to the South, I really think a lot of these old divides will eventually blur.  I keep telling my dh that if he wants to invest, buy a plot of land around say, Raleigh-Durham, NC because in 10 years, it'll have increased in value five-fold.  Lots of new people moving in, which means a lot of old prejudices both sides have held are going to get re-examined in light of meeting each other, and seen to be what they really are--a lot of unfair assumptions. 

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Re: Kentucky anyone?
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2005, 04:13:28 PM »
Finally,  you did not shatter my perception stereotype of some southern British people, instead only bolstered my belief that most of you are simply rude.

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Re: Kentucky anyone?
« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2005, 05:24:53 PM »
All this generated from one little ole post asking about the "Blue Grass" state of Kentucky...and to think Iwant to give it all up and move to Brighton!!!! :\\\'( :o ;D
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Re: Kentucky anyone?
« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2005, 08:06:05 PM »
I moved to Kentucky from Florida my senior year of high school.  That was in 1990 and I lived there until moving here (Kent) in 2003.  It was quite a culture shock for me at 17 and I never really fit in.  My brother who is 3 years younger than me fit in from the start and loves it.  My parents and brother live in Harrodsburg.  I've also lived in Bowling Green (to attend university), Lexington and Newport (near Cincinnati).  I'll be going back to visit from end of October through mid December.  Can't wait to see my family and also for my twin girls to have a proper Halloween (since they were only 20 months when we moved here).  Should be fun!   ;D


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Re: Kentucky anyone?
« Reply #40 on: July 19, 2005, 08:43:10 PM »
I've also lived in Bowling Green (to attend university

Are you a Hilltoper Alumni???
I got my Masters at Western.

My daughter is 11 so she is youngerthen you were when you moved.  For you, what was the hardest part about relocating and learning to adapt in a new culture?

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Re: Kentucky anyone?
« Reply #41 on: July 19, 2005, 08:51:55 PM »
Southernboy (if in fact you are what you claim),

As a Texan girl, all I can say is 'Boy, you're just embarrassing.'  I wonder what your mamma would think of you spewing a bunch of rudeness like that at total strangers.  Lordy, lordy!  ::)


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Re: Kentucky anyone?
« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2005, 09:03:03 PM »
I wonder what your mamma would think of you spewing a bunch of rudeness like that at total strangers.  Lordy, lordy!  ::)


Better get the switches!!!!

(YIKES that brings back some memories of life in the South)  [smiley=bigcry.gif] [smiley=help.gif] [smiley=smash.gif]
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Re: Kentucky anyone?
« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2005, 09:20:01 PM »
Eastern Kentucky and Eastern Tennessee are very beautiful!! 


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Re: Kentucky anyone?
« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2005, 09:37:21 PM »
Are you a Hilltoper Alumni???
I got my Masters at Western.

My daughter is 11 so she is youngerthen you were when you moved.  For you, what was the hardest part about relocating and learning to adapt in a new culture?



I went to Western but didn't graduate...that was 1991 through 1993.

I think moving at 17 is difficult because it was my senior year of high school.  There were already the clicks and I was just too different.  I was in the skater/punk/new wave or whatever click in my school in Florida and there wasn't such a thing at the small county high school I went to in Kentucky.  They all just thought I was really bizarre.  I did change/adapt a bit but it wasn't quite enough.  So, I didn't have many friends.   :(

Western was a lot better.  The problem there was I had too many friends and partied too much.   :)


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