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Dollar vs. Pound
« on: July 13, 2005, 02:43:02 AM »
Does anyone have any ideas or insights into what the future months hold for the exchange rate between the two currencies.  Strangely, the dollar has been rising against the pound over the last month, and Im really getting tempted to start buying pounds or transferring my money to a British account where they would be stored in Pounds rather than Dollars (how exactly does one do this though?).  But I am not sure if the Dollar will keep rising for the next few months, or if it is going to suddenly begin depreciating again.

I expect in the long-run that the dollar will lose against the Pound, but I'm not sure when this will begin, and this is very important to me, as slight fluctuations in the exchange rate affect my tuition by hundreds of dollars.



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Re: Dollar vs. Pound
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2005, 03:22:55 AM »
I noticed this too (thank God).

Personally,  I am not an economist, however I think it will continue to improve; The exchange rate was abysmal, it can do little but improve, or so let us hope!

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Re: Dollar vs. Pound
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2005, 12:01:15 PM »
Oh great.  Before I get a job, and have to live off US savings and money from my American family, the relative value of the dollar is low.  By the time I get a job, and will be earning money in pounds, the relative value of the pound will drop.


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Re: Dollar vs. Pound
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2005, 12:57:34 PM »
You are right that the dollar does seem to be doing well right now against the pound, but it seems to have dropped again in the last few days.  The pound was the lowest it has been since March  on July 8 , the day after the attacks (.578 to 1, i.e. for every £57.80 you get $100), but it's gone back up in the last few days to .566 to 1.  I would say that if you want to hedge your money against the currency rate that you better do it quick.  Otherwise you probably don't stand to gain any real advantage.  One thing to consider is that since you are not dealing in particularly large investment you aren't going to get the rates listed above, but rather inflated ones from a high street bank.  Then tack on service fees and you really do reduce your gain once more.

You have a few options for transferring larger sums of money from one currency to the next.  Using travellers checks and Cash just aren't great options.

1.)  Wire Transfer - For this you would need to have a UK bank account set up and a US one.  The money gets automatically taken from one account and deposited to the other using the exchange rate from that day.  It can take up to 5 days to see the money in the receiving account, but the rate used is from the day initiated.  Check out the exchange rates your bank offers to convert dollars to pounds.  Also factor in any transaction fees.  I use a small bank in the US and they get absolute crap rates for foreign exchanges, not to mention charge about $40 min transaction fees.  Because of this, it's not really worth transferring any money with them.  Which leads to my second option, which is good if you don't have a UK bank account...

Bank Drafts - A  bank draft is a check issued in another currency.  You could easily get one of these issued for any amount and then just keep it in a safe place until you have a place to deposit it.  Alternatively you could have it issued in the name of your University so you could just give it to them as payment.  I generally use a bigger bank like Bank of America to buy a Bank Draft as they offer more competitve rates.  You should be able to get one of these issued without holding an account.  The problem with these is that it again takes about 5 days before you have the issued check in your hand, so not a last minute solution. 

Like any form of investment, you could stand to loose money.  No one can predict how the market moves, for instance the big drop in the pound and the UK market on Thursday and Friday of last week, could never have been predicted as it was due to an unforseen event.   These are the kind of things that make investing fun, but also make it devastating if the market turns against your personal investments.

Just a thought before you enter into currency trading, does your university offer any way to "lock" in an exchange rate, knowing you are a foreign student?   Is paying the full tuition in advance now while the dollar is up an option?

I hope this helps.


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Re: Dollar vs. Pound
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2005, 05:15:54 PM »
I'm looking into whether or not my university will let me "lock" the rate.

How does one go about opening a UK account from the US, is it even possible?  I was thinking of stopping by HSBC or Citibank on my next trip to New York and finding out if it was possible to do so from there.



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Re: Dollar vs. Pound
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2005, 05:28:02 PM »
Does anyone have any ideas or insights into what the future months hold for the exchange rate between the two currencies.  Strangely, the dollar has been rising against the pound over the last month,....

I've been in the US for the past 6 weeks.  I'll be here for about another month.  As soon as I get back to the UK the dollar will go back to its previous low against the pound.  Right in time for my tuition payments and Christmas shopping.  Buy now!

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Re: Dollar vs. Pound
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2005, 06:37:16 PM »
I'm looking into whether or not my university will let me "lock" the rate.

How does one go about opening a UK account from the US, is it even possible?  I was thinking of stopping by HSBC or Citibank on my next trip to New York and finding out if it was possible to do so from there.


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Re: Dollar vs. Pound
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2005, 06:38:51 PM »
If you open a US HSBC bank account and keep it active for at least six months, stop in any branch and they will open a UK account for you before you move.  But I think you may need to have an established residence to do so.  But this will be the best way to set one up before landing.
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Re: Dollar vs. Pound
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2005, 06:39:22 PM »
Oh great. Before I get a job, and have to live off US savings and money from my American family, the relative value of the dollar is low. By the time I get a job, and will be earning money in pounds, the relative value of the pound will drop.

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Re: Dollar vs. Pound
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2005, 09:16:08 PM »
If you open a US HSBC bank account and keep it active for at least six months, stop in any branch and they will open a UK account for you before you move.  But I think you may need to have an established residence to do so.  But this will be the best way to set one up before landing.

Thats no good for me, I leave for London at the end of next month, and my moneys with Bank of America right now, does anyone have any experiences with Citibank or even Barclay's, I believe they have a branch in New York somewhere.


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Re: Dollar vs. Pound
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2005, 01:01:19 AM »
If you open a US HSBC bank account and keep it active for at least six months, stop in any branch and they will open a UK account for you before you move.  But I think you may need to have an established residence to do so.  But this will be the best way to set one up before landing.

I think your right you do indeed need proof of UK residence to open most UK bank account.  The UK laws on opening bank accounts are very strict.  HSBC do offer a joint UK/US account but I think you need £5000 to open the account.

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Re: Dollar vs. Pound
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2005, 12:19:01 PM »
Bank of America and Barclay's are hooked up somehow but I have no idea if it would make getting a bank account any easier.  I'm also with B of A and I'm gonna look into it.  I'll let you know if I find out anything.  Also, anytime we've transferred money we've used Global Currency Exchange.  They actually have a B of A account so my money went thru super quick.  They usually have better rates than just using the bank. 


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Re: Dollar vs. Pound
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2005, 12:25:42 PM »
BoA and Barclays have a reciprocal agreement in that they don't charge each others customers to use their ATMs.  Other than that, there are no benefits and you'll have to go through the same process as everyone else when opening a Barclays account (not impossible, just a hassle!).


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Re: Dollar vs. Pound
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2005, 12:27:35 PM »
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Bank of America and Barclay's are hooked up somehow but I have no idea if it would make getting a bank account any easier.  I'm also with B of A and I'm gonna look into it.

It won't make getting an account any easier.  At the moment, the only relationship between Barclays and Bank of America is one of mutal ATM useage at a lower rate.

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Re: Dollar vs. Pound
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2005, 11:09:18 AM »
I think to a large degree the exchange rate is affected by interest rates.  You'll notice in the US Greenspan says there will be gradual rises in interest rates without much end in site.  On the other hand, the Monetary Policy Committee for the Bank of England is nearly ready to lower interest rates.

Raising rates generally tends to inflate the value of its currency, hence part of the reason that the dollar has been doing better lately.  There are other factors, such as current account deficit, ie the US is spending tons of money on wars and terrorism so there's a relatively large amount of borrowing causing a deficit.  This can really devalue a currency if it spirals out of control.

Until recently, China pegged its currency to the US dollar so that when the dollar fluctuated it moved along with it and made their currency very cheap in comparison to the dollar.  This made Chinese goods very cheap and American goods quite expensive.  They've recently modified this so it's not pegged at the rate it was which could help American goods to sell but ironically makes oil prices go up because its cheaper to buy due to the currency changes.

I'm not a finance expert but it's interesting to read some of the effects currency exchange rates have and their effect on the world market.

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