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Hatred in the UK
« on: August 24, 2005, 02:50:56 AM »
As we all know, the hatred between the English and the Scots and the English and the Welsh, etc. is very deep routed in the British psyche. I was just wondering, if your significant other is British, if they had ever expressed any seemingly pointless negativity about Scotland and/or Wales if they're English, or vice versa?

I went out to an Irish pub last night in Boston and we met an Irish guy who had been in Boston for 11 years now (he loves it, still has his accent and all) and he and my fiance both mentioned how Scots and the Irish both equally hate the English because they think they're so much better than everyone else... and the English hate them both right back. I really think the whole things pretty ridiculous, but funny in a way.
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Re: Hatred in the UK
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2005, 08:24:59 AM »
Hatred? Never experienced it, to be honest. There certainly are "Scottish jokes" and "Welsh jokes," but I really wouldn't call it hatred. Good-natured ribbing, more like it. I live in Wales. Lots of English people live here too. We get lots of English tourists. I've honestly never once noticed any negative feelings toward us by English people, much less "hatred."
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Re: Hatred in the UK
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2005, 08:28:20 AM »
The only thing I've noticed are Welsh jokes -- but they wouldn't qualify as "hatred".  The English/Welsh relationship is pretty similar, in my opinion, to the US/Canada relationship -- just good-natured ribbing.


Re: Hatred in the UK
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2005, 08:53:20 AM »
Ah, well you should always listen to men you meet in pubs!
Please, "hatred"?? Gimme a break!


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Re: Hatred in the UK
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2005, 08:57:59 AM »
I've heard the jokes from both the English and the Scots, but I've never heard hatred towards the Welsh or Scots down here.  The closest thing I've heard to hatred actually came from a few Scots living up there.
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Re: Hatred in the UK
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2005, 09:01:20 AM »
I have a couple of Scottish friends who cheer for Germany in the Europe/World Cup if they're playing England.   :)  But since they live and work in England and have absolutely no intention of moving back to Glasgow I think 'hatred' is a pretty strong and inaccurate word.  I think Lola's right-it's similar the whole US/Canada thing.  
But as for the English 'hating' the Scots or Welsh-nah, I've never heard anything like that. 


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Re: Hatred in the UK
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2005, 09:04:35 AM »
My husband is English and Wishstar's husband is Scottish and they don't hate each other.

That's good enough for me.  ;D
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Re: Hatred in the UK
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2005, 09:07:18 AM »
I wouldn't call it *hatred* either.  In Bristol there are a lot of Welsh comments - but I think that's because of the closeness to Wales.

It's more like a rivalry than hatred...
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Re: Hatred in the UK
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2005, 09:21:21 AM »
I'd compare it to the North-South divide in the US...for a small number of folks (usually older) there is some deep seated anger, for others there's a bit of looking down on the other and then for others there are just jokes.


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Re: Hatred in the UK
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2005, 09:47:28 AM »
When we were in Texas hubby worked for a large oil service company.  Meaning a lot of ex-pats!  We became great friends with a couple from Scotland.  We joke that they paid him the ultimate compliment-he is 'not that bad' for an Englishman!
There was never any anger, just good natured ribbing.



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Re: Hatred in the UK
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2005, 10:22:09 AM »
reminds me of americans and canadians - it's just friendly joking around. I really doubt anyone actually has pent up hatred for one another. I met a Scottish friend of my bf's and he was quite a good guy and a good friend to my bf. No bad blood btwn them. My brit bf will sometimes mention the differences btwn the cultures of the Welsh and Scottish, but if anything he says how much more they can drink than the English and how they could really kick a** if they want to ;) doesn't sound like anything mean to me.
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Re: Hatred in the UK
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2005, 10:28:51 AM »
Hmm..I've seem more rivalry among opposing Football teams than between neighboring country men...you need to visit  the Strawberry Festival next year or better yet to Glastonbury you'll get to see how friendly and unbordering folks can be here.... ;D
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Re: Hatred in the UK
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2005, 10:29:53 AM »
I dont recall ever hearing anything from my friends.


Re: Hatred in the UK
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2005, 11:23:42 AM »
We have a large Sottish family, with a few who have migrated into England. No hatred. Lots of ribbing and something about how the English people stole the Scottish peoples water.


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Re: Hatred in the UK
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2005, 11:32:17 AM »
I had something funny happen to me recently.  I had a customer complain about Scots.  Now this is a very good customer of mine whom I have helped make great gains in his business and we've become good friends. 

Well after he finished his little rant, he stopped and asked me where I was from.  I told him North Carolina and he replied no where is your family originally from.  After hesitating, beating around the bush and really not wanting to answer I finally told him, Scotland.  You should have seen the look on his face, priceless.

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