Hatred in the UK

There is supposedly an English town somewhere near the Welsh border which has never repealed an old local by-law which made it legal to shoot without question any Welshman seen within the city walls after dark.

That would be Chester.  There's supposedly another about being able to shoot a Welshman with a longbow within Durham Cathedral on a Sunday.  And something about a Scotsman within site of York.

Let's just say that I wouldn't want to use those as a legal defence!

The English just like to make fun of everyone not English. 

as for the Scots,could you really hate a guy in a skirt?

Dave

Hate them?  No.  Date them?  You betcha!!     I love the sight of a man in a kilt.  Too bad I only get to see that at the company Christmas party.  *sigh*  Where's a kilted smiley when you need it?  I guess I'll just have to think about men in kilts and smile.    

Scots and the Irish both equally hate the English because they think they're so much better than everyone else...

If there is any hatred... this is not the reason for it.

My husband wears a kilt - and he's Welsh! 

Of course it's a sports kilt and not a *proper* kilt....

My husband wears a kilt - and he's Welsh! 

Of course it's a sports kilt and not a *proper* kilt....

Whats a sports kilt? Could it be an idea for hubbys xmas present? lol

What's the saying (or something) about a true Scotsman is to wear nothing under the kilt...no matter how cold it is, it's all in working order?

I think there would definitely be shrinkage.

. it has not been unknown for English tourists to go into a shop in Wales and find the people pretending not to speak English, even though they were heard doing so a few seconds before and switched to Welsh when they saw strangers come in.  

As a Welshman I'm tired to death with that urban myth. I'm not saying that there are some truly obnoxious and anti-social people in small towns in Wales. I know there is, but it's the "even though they were heard doing so a few seconds before and switched to Welsh" that gets me. It implies that Welsh is not really a language, just a load of gibberish affected just to annoy the English, and that everybody really speaks English.

Is it unimaginable that if you speak Welsh as a first language, and you go into a shop and the owner also speaks Welsh as first language that you'd speak Welsh to them?

It all has the sniff of the attempts of the English in previous centuries to wipe out the Welsh language and culture. If you're googling, look up "Welsh Knot".

My husband wears a kilt - and he's Welsh! 

Of course it's a sports kilt and not a *proper* kilt....

There are Welsh kilts. You see people wearing them on their wedding days. I'm not sure why there are kilts in Wales (too lazy to do any Googling right now!), but there are.

The only time I have ever heard Scottish/Welsh/English/Irish speaking badly about each other is when they were friends from the different countries joking around.  As was said earlier, good-natured ribbing. I have a friend who is originally from the southeastern US, who delights in calling me a "damn yankee". Same thing.

I suppose someone might overhear the middle of a conversation and not realise that the people who were speaking were just good friends, and that they weren't serious.

As a Welshman I'm tired to death with that urban myth. I'm not saying that there are some truly obnoxious and anti-social people in small towns in Wales. I know there is, but it's the "even though they were heard doing so a few seconds before and switched to Welsh" that gets me. It implies that Welsh is not really a language, just a load of gibberish affected just to annoy the English, and that everybody really speaks English.

Is it unimaginable that if you speak Welsh as a first language, and you go into a shop and the owner also speaks Welsh as first language that you'd speak Welsh to them?

In New York, this is said about people speaking various non-English languages: Spanish, Russian, Chinese, etc.  I have heard workers in shops talk to customers in English, then quietly insult them in Spanish (I understand both), so it's not such a far-fetched idea.

Whats a sports kilt? Could it be an idea for hubbys xmas present? lol

These are called Utilikilts. Very sexy. In all sorts of fabrics and colors. Even in leather. *kinky*

http://www.utilikilts.com/

"I just put on my first utilikilt. I know I don't have to tell you how great it feels.......so I will just say thank you."
~Andy Davis
Bloomington, IL

Well, there ya go!  Sorted.   

Almost sounds like an ad for a woman's... 

I cant imagine my little Frank wearing one of those things. He's just 5'5" and I doubt they would go well with his Adidas trainers!

As a Welshman I'm tired to death with that urban myth. I'm not saying that there are some truly obnoxious and anti-social people in small towns in Wales. I know there is, but it's the "even though they were heard doing so a few seconds before and switched to Welsh" that gets me. It implies that Welsh is not really a language, just a load of gibberish affected just to annoy the English, and that everybody really speaks English.

No offense intended, but the very situation I described did actually happen to my mother many years ago in North Wales.    She heard the people speaking English but they changed to Welsh as soon as she walked in the door, then pretended not to understand English.      

That's not intended to be an attack on all Welsh people or to try to imply that Welsh is somehow not a "proper" language, just a statement of fact that there are obviously a few people with some deep-seated grudge, just as there are a few obnoxious English people too.

I have a friend who is originally from the southeastern US, who delights in calling me a "damn yankee". Same thing.

From my time in Georgia I got the impression that "damnyankee" was all one word down there!  

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001URDYK/102-0466756-1816141?v=glance

This is the one my husband wears.  He *loves* it...and he does wear it the *Scottish way* <grin>