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Extremely worried girl here...
« on: September 15, 2005, 01:06:36 AM »
Hello everyone,

Here I am again with more questions. I am really worried now. As I posted before I'm planning my holidays for the next month, I want to go to Germany and to London a few days.

The thing is, I dont have a bank account and now that I want to go to London and because I was denied entry 2 years ago I need to apply for an entry clearance and I need bank statements. Like I said before, I have $3,800 in savings,  I'll go and open a bank account next week, so I can show I have the money to go.
But that's all the money that it's going to be in the account, of course when I get paid I'll put the money in the account and all the extra money I get I'll put it there too but that's all.

I am really worried that the people at the consulate think it's weird that I want to spend my savings on a trip, it may be strange to their eyes, but that's exactly the reason why I've been saving this money, This is something I really want to do... yes, my savings will be almost gone but that's ok, that's why I've been working so hard the past months and I really think it's worth it... when I'm back in Mexico I'll have my wage and as I dont have any debts, I dont pay rent or anything, well, things will be fine.

I've asked my boss to write a letter stating my monthly income, I've been working for this company for around 18 months and I have things to finish when I'm back.

I really want to do things properly, I dont want and I won't lie about anything, I understand that's really a bad idea and that's why I am so worried now.

I'd just like to hear what you think about all this  :-\\\\

Mysh


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Re: Extremely worried girl here...
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2005, 05:42:20 AM »
I think an important thing is for your boss to write the letter stating that you are employed and when you are expected to return to work. Also be sure you have your return flight book. The main thing they are concerned about is that you are definately going to go back.


Re: Extremely worried girl here...
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2005, 02:03:56 PM »


Getting clearance as a visitor, showing that you are depleting your reserves for the purposes of a single visit is a profoundly bad idea.  While it can clear the financial hurdle, it totally *destroys* the intentionality hurdle.  I have some live NOR's on file where this was the ECO's *exact* major objection to granting the clearance - although the consulates are places like Minsk, Yekatrineburg, Almaty, etc.  But you really can't blame him.  Or even if the consulate were LA...

So I would suggest bolstering your intentionality.  The letter from your boss is good for a start, but does it give enough transparency to your intentions?

Also, it's helpful towards bolstering intentionality to get very precise and clear about why a visit at this particular time.  If there's a good, solid reason, it can help immeasurably.  Without a reasonable motivation for visiting at that particular time, included with throwing all of your savings into it, then the outcome is not as optimistic as it would otherwise be.




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Re: Extremely worried girl here...
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2005, 08:15:52 PM »
I don't understand why you would want to spend all your savings on a short trip  ???


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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2005, 10:19:40 PM »
I don't understand why you would want to spend all your savings on a short trip  ???

Bingo!

ECOs don't understand it either.  That much is known.

So how does Mysh establish intentionality? 


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Re: Extremely worried girl here...
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2005, 01:53:26 AM »
Bingo!

ECOs don't understand it either. That much is known.

So how does Mysh establish intentionality?

I understand they don't, that's why I wanted to ask about this.

I've been saving this money because I really want to travel, is in this particular time because this is when I can get my holidays from work, it's a short trip because i just have 15 days of holidays. Yes, I know you say life savings because this is all what i've saved so far, i did it in a year and especially for a trip. I am young and if I can't do it now when I don't have the responsability of kids, a house and a husband, then when can I?  :(

My original plan was just going to Berlin 10 days, but a mexican friend who lives in London asked me why I didnt go and stayed with her some days now that I was going to be real close and see the things I didnt get to see the first (and only) time i've been there. She is already planning a dinner with a group of mexican girls who live in London for the time I arrive. I really loved the idea, I didn't get to see lots of things while I was there and I'd really like to. It is a huge amount of money, I know,  but I really think it's worth it.  I've asked her to write a letter of support saying all these things and she agreed.

I don't know what else I can say, this is the truth, no hidden intentions  :( It sounds like it's going to be almost impossible to get this visa  :\\\'(



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Re: Extremely worried girl here...
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2005, 01:54:34 PM »
It's not going to be impossible, you just have to be thorough.

You need to prove that you only intend to visit the UK/Europe for a short period of time, and that you have ties to home which mean that you will return.  The letter from your employer is essential, and I would also provide a letter from the friend you are staying with in the UK.  Have a detailed itinerary of what you plan to do in the UK; where you will visit, what you want to see, anything you can to prove that you have put a lot of effort into making sure that this trip of a lifetime will be as good as it can be.  The more planning you have done, the more plausable it will be to them that you have spent your life savings on this trip. 

Good luck


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Re: Extremely worried girl here...
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2005, 02:44:15 PM »
I don't understand why you would want to spend all your savings on a short trip ???

I guess I'm in the minority that I don't see what's so strange about having a goal - whatever it is - saving the money for it and then spending the money on that goal.

I mean, maybe someone wants to spend their "short trip" living in the lap of luxury.
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Re: Extremely worried girl here...
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2005, 04:20:31 PM »
maybe I am missing something but I just got back from England on the 10th of september. I was there for 7 weeks.  I also spent 3 weeks over christmas there. Neither times did I have any problem getting in at all, and certainly there was no financail questions asked. My boyfriend paid for my ticket both times and I entered that country with very little money, my bf paid for everything except the souveniers I bought for friends and family. I had less than a $100 in my bank account when I went to England this last time. so im kinda confused as to why your financail status and how much money u plan to spend is an issue for you but wasnt for me?


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Re: Extremely worried girl here...
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2005, 04:24:38 PM »
maybe I am missing something but I just got back from England on the 10th of september. I was there for 7 weeks.  I also spent 3 weeks over christmas there. Neither times did I have any problem getting in at all, and certainly there was no financail questions asked. My boyfriend paid for my ticket both times and I entered that country with very little money, my bf paid for everything except the souveniers I bought for friends and family. I had less than a $100 in my bank account when I went to England this last time. so im kinda confused as to why your financail status and how much money u plan to spend is an issue for you but wasnt for me?

Because she's been denied entry once. That can cause a lot of problems when trying to enter the country again.

Also, I find it very unsual that you weren't asked any questions about what money you had on you and what money you had available. Those are pretty standard questions. And, to be honest, I am amazed that you were let in the country for 7 weeks when you only had $100.


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Re: Extremely worried girl here...
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2005, 04:31:41 PM »
I dunno why either. maybe its because the first question asked was what I was doing in the country and I said I was visiting my boyfriend. So they figure I wont be alone and there for wont have much to worry about financially. I was originally only staying for 5 weeks but the hurricane allowed me 2 extra weeks. But I understand now, thnx.


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Re: Extremely worried girl here...
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2005, 08:10:29 PM »
I guess I'm in the minority that I don't see what's so strange about having a goal - whatever it is - saving the money for it and then spending the money on that goal.

I mean, maybe someone wants to spend their "short trip" living in the lap of luxury.

I don't know. Maybe because if something unfortunate happens to her in the future, if she loses her job, for example, she won't be able to buy food or pay her bills without going on public assistance because she has no savings. Saving for a goal is admirable, but that's different from spending all the money you own in the world on that goal. I couldn't imagine living without any savings at all.



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Re: Extremely worried girl here...
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2005, 11:49:37 PM »
It's not going to be impossible, you just have to be thorough.

You need to prove that you only intend to visit the UK/Europe for a short period of time, and that you have ties to home which mean that you will return. The letter from your employer is essential, and I would also provide a letter from the friend you are staying with in the UK. Have a detailed itinerary of what you plan to do in the UK; where you will visit, what you want to see, anything you can to prove that you have put a lot of effort into making sure that this trip of a lifetime will be as good as it can be. The more planning you have done, the more plausable it will be to them that you have spent your life savings on this trip.

Good luck


Victoria

Yep, I've already done that,  not just for my visit to England but also for my visit to Germany, I need to be organized as it would be a short trip.

I don't know. Maybe because if something unfortunate happens to her in the future, if she loses her job, for example, she won't be able to buy food or pay her bills without going on public assistance because she has no savings. Saving for a goal is admirable, but that's different from spending all the money you own in the world on that goal. I couldn't imagine living without any savings at all.



I'm still living with my family and we all help, is not that I have to pay for all the bills or nothing like it. We all support each other, we all work at home. We own the house so we dont have to pay rent, if something unfortunate happens we know we count on each other to be ok.

Thank you everyone for your replies. I appreciate all of them.

Mysh


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