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Ireland..... any advice???
« on: October 14, 2005, 06:59:53 AM »
Can anyone give me any advice abt moving to Ireland (Dublin)? What are the pros and cons compared to living in the USA? or England for that matter..... A friend of mine is planning to move, but has no idea where to start, or even that much about the place. All she knows is that its been a childhood dream for her and she has made up her mind to move.
Any help or advice, or comparisons will be greatly appreciated....

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Re: Ireland..... any advice???
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2005, 10:31:40 AM »
Tell her to come and look at the visa section of our board...she may not be able, legally, to move over here as you can't just 'decide' to move here.


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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2005, 10:55:54 AM »
I'd see the visa section of the board, but be aware that the rules for moving to the UK and those for moving to Ireland are different.  Ireland is a part of the EU, however, so if your pal qualifies for UK nationality, she can also move to Ireland on her British passport.

But it's not just as simple as wanting to move there and picking up and doing so.

Also, Dublin has become very, very expensive property/rent wise. 


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Re: Ireland..... any advice???
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2005, 12:23:14 PM »
First,  a very brief history lesson:   The whole of Ireland became part of the U.K. in 1801, but after a century of British rule and an uprising (sound familiar?   ;) ), the island was partitioned in 1921, the six counties in the north remaining with the U.K. and the other 26 counties becoming a completely independent country.

The result of this is that some things in the Republic of Ireland are very similar to the U.K. while others can be quite different.  Some of the differences are quite trivial and merely act as a reminder that one is not in Britain, e.g. the mixture of familiar British brands and local Irish brands in stores, the different color mailboxes, the road signs (which are a curious blend of British and American with a few local oddities thrown in for good measure), the bilingual name signs, and so on.

There are more far-reaching differences though.  After many years of using the Irish "punt" or pound (which was not the same as the pound Sterling) the RoI adopted the euro currency a couple of years ago.    Ireland has its own tax system, welfare system,  and national health service, which although similar in principle to the British systems each have their own quirks.  Depending upon your circumstances, you might be better or worse off compared to the U.K.    

Real estate prices have soared in recent years across Ireland, but prices in the City of Dublin are absolutely insane (more expensive than London!).    I know someone who has just moved there from his family home in Cork for a short-term work contract and he says it's costing a fortune just for a tiny apartment.   Unless essential for work, I honestly can't see much to recommend Dublin anyway.  There are much nicer places in Ireland to live.

Re visas, it might be worth checking for any Irish ancestry in the family.  I believe that the RoI offers easier immigration in this respect than Britain, even if the Irish link is three or four generations back.  
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2005, 12:31:06 PM »
Re visas, it might be worth checking for any Irish ancestry in the family.  I believe that the RoI offers easier immigration in this respect than Britain, even if the Irish link is three or four generations back.  


For Americans, this opportunity only goes back two generations, to the grandparents.  And even then, Ireland had to change its rules in November of last year due to high immigration levels. 

There are new residency requirements as well.

We have at least one member here who lives in Ulster and is married to an Irish national, she might see this and respond. 


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Re: Ireland..... any advice???
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2005, 12:38:34 PM »
Has your friend visited these places (Ireland, England)?  If not, I would advise he/she to take a serious look before going any further.  I'm not saying these places aren't great, but it is extremely difficult without family or friends around and being on your own.  It's good if he/she has people who are nearby.


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Re: Ireland..... any advice???
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2005, 02:35:08 PM »
We were seriously looking at moving to Ireland a while back (since Micky has duel citizenship) and I would suggest that your friend visit this site Oasis. It is VERY  helpful and will give her all of the info she needs to get started :)
 I also agree with American Fox, if she hasn't been to Ireland for a visit yet I suggest she do so :)
 
 
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Re: Ireland..... any advice???
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2005, 03:20:36 PM »
More info at http://www.gov.ie as well.

Anyone who holds British citizenship can live in Ireland with no immigration formalities at all (ditto Irish citizens coming to the U.K.) -- It's been that way ever since the split up in 1921.

I'm not sure how an American citizen married to a British citizen would go, but I would think it makes things easier.

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Re: Ireland..... any advice???
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2005, 04:15:09 PM »
Isn't Ireland in the EU? Meaning a citizen of any EU country can live & work there, British or otherwise.


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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2005, 04:32:49 PM »
I'm not sure how an American citizen married to a British citizen would go, but I would think it makes things easier.



They'd apply for an EU/EEA Family Permit - for the American half, that is.

Yes, Ireland is part of the EU so any EU/EEA national can live and work there, British or otherwise. 


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Re: Ireland..... any advice???
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2005, 04:45:08 PM »
The EU's good like that.  ;)


Re: Ireland..... any advice???
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2005, 04:46:02 PM »
The EU's good like that.  ;)

Here, here to that!   :D


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Re: Ireland..... any advice???
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2005, 05:31:45 PM »
Isn't Ireland in the EU? Meaning a citizen of any EU country can live & work there, British or otherwise.

Yes, but another EU national would probably need to apply for a residence permit etc. whereas a British citizen doesn't even need a passport.  The freedom of movement between UK/RoI has existed since long before the EU came into being.

The EU's good like that. ;)

I suppose they've got to get something right occasionally by the law of chance!   :P

It's still not quite as straightforward as they would have you believe though.   
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Re: Ireland..... any advice???
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2005, 06:07:17 PM »
A lot easier than for a US citizen trying to work her or Ireland I expect.


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Re: Ireland..... any advice???
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2005, 02:12:32 PM »
A lot easier than for a US citizen trying to work her or Ireland I expect.

Agreed.

One big financial advantage Ireland has over Britain:  No council tax! 
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