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Re: Thank you
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2005, 08:12:14 PM »
My understanding of the Ombudsman is that he can rule that a decision was made inappropriately, but would not be able to overturn a decision which was made lawfully. 

I am stumped.  Other than the ECJ, I really can't think of anything (other than drumming up so much adverse publicity that Des Brown *has* to change his mind!).


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Re: Thank you
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2005, 10:58:20 PM »
More info about the Ombudsman here:

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/n6w/index/your_rights/civil_rights/how_to_use_an_ombudsman.htm#two

As Victoria says, they are concerned with whether correct procedure has been followed.


Re: Thank you
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2005, 09:38:13 PM »
Garry - would it not be worth their while applying for ILR after 2 years on the spousal visa anyway?  Regardless of what Ms Hughes has said, I am not sure that this can be refused, as the caseworker would have to look at the current rules, surely?
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Victoria:  I agree that it's viable strategy with little to lose except the £365 it takes to apply.  Yes, she comes under current rules if she has a spousal FLR.  ~BUT~ we would need to find out what the FLR she has actually is.  What kind of FLR is it?  That's what the caseworker is going to ask.  They mentioned that it's a 3 year FLR piggy-backed to another 3 year FLR - and that's not sounding very spousal - that sounds more like an exceptional, or worse, that they booked it as Article 8.  She said it expired in 9/2006, another 10 months.

At the baseline, 40&feelit has 4 distinct options, but only 1 is really workable, which is to go forward with a SET(M).  At the point of debate are two questions:  [1] when and [2] what strategy.

The Ombudsman and the JR approaches are not really workable ideas.  We already have starred tribunal decisions where they ruled adversely against couples in similar straits, and at least one such decision handed down was classed as "reportable", so there's no silver bullet in that direction.   And even if an advisor were foolish enough to put forward a JR, there would be public advocates like me howling with outrage and making trenchant accusations of queue jumping.  And those accusations would stick.  And I would NOT be the only one either. 

So 40&feelit, your next port of call is a formal consultation with someone on the advocacy side.  You'll need to get in touch with Victoria or me vis-a-vis the entire case history - hope that you save copies of all your stuff.  From there, you can hammer out the two big questions:  when; and what strategy.


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Re: Thank you
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2005, 08:13:23 PM »
Victoria and Garry,


We basically have two questions.  First what is a Set (M)?  Second, what costs are we looking at to do this? 


Plus we have saved everything from the beginning. 
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Re: Thank you
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2005, 12:07:35 AM »
We basically have two questions.  First what is a Set (M)?  Second, what costs are we looking at to do this? 

SET(M) is the ILR application form.  Costs vary.  I'm non-profit, but have a lengthy queue for casework (right now it's around mid-late December), and that's when the overstay season starts picking up.  For faster help, you'll be better off going to the for-profit sector. 

It's a fundamental part of best practices that fees are posted or you get a client care letter detailing how fees will accrue.


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Re: Thank you
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2005, 12:46:46 PM »
I am profit sector, so please PM me if you would like further assistance. However...

I came across this http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/ind/en/home/laws___policy/policy_instructions/table_of_contents/chapter_8.Maincontent.0016.file.tmp/01%20Spouses.pdf this morning - I hadn't noticed paragraph 3.1 (5th paragraph) before.  Is this the category in which leave has been granted in this situation?  If so, I don't think there is anything that can be done other than waiting or applying from overseas.


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Re: Thank you
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2005, 04:28:01 AM »
Gary and Victoria,

I did not want you to think we are being rude by not replying.  We are in the process of thinking and discussing all our options.  Thank you very much for your insight and sharing your experiance/education. 

It means a lot to us. 
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Re: Thank you
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2005, 01:08:31 PM »
No problem at all!

Good luck, and if there are any more questions, we are here to help.

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Re: Thank you
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2005, 07:04:16 PM »
Victoria,

H and I have been thinking of our options.  I have read what you posted and that is what the Home Office is going on.  We are not willing at this time to apply for a set (M) and pay out the expense of what might could happen.  We thought we would wait till my visa is up in nine month and apply then.  The worst that will occur is that they say no to the ILR and give me another three year FLR visa.  In essence what you sent states that is what they have to do.  The down side is that my school costs and buying a house is tied to the ILR. 

Any thoughts to this plan?



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