Hello
Guest

Sponsored Links


Topic: Do I need a US Passport?  (Read 3706 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 5656

  • Witchiepoo
  • Liked: 3
  • Joined: May 2003
  • Location: Hertfordshire, United Kingdom
Re: Do I need a US Passport?
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2005, 05:05:32 PM »
I don't want to be a citizen of Russia, but I'd like to visit it some day. ::)

Do know, Peedal, I was just thinking the exact same thing ... word for word!
Insert wonderfully creative signature here …


  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 2985

  • An eagle swooped down from a semi-trailer
  • Liked: 0
  • Joined: Sep 2002
Re: Do I need a US Passport?
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2005, 05:09:26 PM »
No, I am saying that if a repurcussion of renouncing your citizenship is to be placed on a no-fly list (which I know was just a sarcastic comment), and that makes you reconsider renouncing, then whatever beliefs (political, religious, or whatever) that led you to think about renouncing your citizenship do not mean as much to you as being able to fly. Sometimes you have to pay a price for your beliefs and actions. Sometimes the price is high, sometimes it's not so high. But if you aren't willing to pay the price, that's where your commitment to your belief stops.


Re: Do I need a US Passport?
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2005, 05:42:54 PM »
I don't want to be a citizen of Russia, but I'd like to visit it some day.  ::)

If you go, don't get caught in Shermet'jvo Airport trying to carry in a nice big engagement ring.

 :-[

Of course, I wouldn't know anything about it, personally.   :-[  Not at all.   Who?  Me?

 ;)


  • *
  • Posts: 118

  • Liked: 0
  • Joined: Jul 2005
Re: Do I need a US Passport?
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2005, 06:18:31 PM »
I think it is actually more expensive to file the form to renounce citizenship than it would be to just renew the passport.   
Additionally, even after the U.S. citizenship is renounced, you'd still have to continue doing the tax returns for another 10 years. 


Re: Do I need a US Passport?
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2005, 06:20:19 PM »
   
Additionally, even after the U.S. citizenship is renounced, you'd still have to continue doing the tax returns for another 10 years. 

 :o

Oh, this just gets better and better!  >:(   :-X


Re: Do I need a US Passport?
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2005, 06:31:13 PM »
Thanks for all the info, everyone...

It may not have been what i was hoping for, but at least i know now...


Re: Do I need a US Passport?
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2005, 09:02:57 PM »
Truly, I really don't understand why some folks don't just get it over with and renounce their citizenship.  I think some would feel over the moon about it!  Maybe take out some advertising space in the local paper (over there and here) to spread the news, hold a press conference, maybe hire a plane to write it in the sky? There is no limit what you can do to express the joy of no longer being a US citizen. 

On the flip side, guess some folks won't mind being an American when it comes time to retire and collect their Retirement/Social Security benefit?  ;)



And what I don't understand is people who assume that b/c an American doesn't agree w/some of their government's policies, they're automatically 'un-American' or less of an American and should renounce their citizenship instead of following the flock.  FGS, the entire country was founded by people the British considered traitors for going against the grain.

As my father, the child of immigrants, always says, 'The greatest thing about being American is that I can speak my mind.  The second is that I am free to leave - or come back - at any time.'




  • *
  • Posts: 106

  • Back again
  • Liked: 0
  • Joined: Oct 2003
  • Location: Berkshire
Re: Do I need a US Passport?
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2005, 09:43:05 PM »
And what I don't understand is people who assume that b/c an American doesn't agree w/some of their government's policies, they're automatically 'un-American' or less of an American and should renounce their citizenship instead of following the flock. FGS, the entire country was founded by people the British considered traitors for going against the grain.

As my father, the child of immigrants, always says, 'The greatest thing about being American is that I can speak my mind. The second is that I am free to leave - or come back - at any time.'




Well good god, what do you expect when someone questions why they should hang on to their passport? She's almost screaming that she doesn't want to be American anymore!!!


Re: Do I need a US Passport?
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2005, 09:50:30 PM »
And what I don't understand is people who assume that b/c an American doesn't agree w/some of their government's policies, they're automatically 'un-American or less of an American and should renounce their citizenship instead of following the flock.  FGS, the entire country was founded by people the British considered traitors for going against the grain.

As my father, the child of immigrants, always says, 'The greatest thing about being American is that I can speak my mind.  The second is that I am free to leave - or come back - at any time.'


Freedom of speech....absolutely!!

I do agree with your point of not agreeing with the current US government policies....I too dislike Bush....dislike is too nice of a word to describe how I feel BUT I am not against everything American.  I just don't understand how quite a few people on this site constantly "dis" the states and everything about it.

The hatred that comes through in the words I read, hmm....all I can think is that some (not all) people must of had a really rough go of it over there.



Re: Do I need a US Passport?
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2005, 10:02:31 PM »
Freedom of speech....absolutely!!

I do agree with your point of not agreeing with the current US government policies....I too dislike Bush....dislike is too nice of a word to describe how I feel BUT I am not against everything American.  I just don't understand how quite a few people on this site constantly "dis" the states and everything about it.

The hatred that comes through in the words I read, hmm....all I can think is that some (not all) people must of had a really rough go of it over there.



Or maybe, just maybe, some of those people have adopted some of the ways of their new home - such as not taking everything so seriously or personally, a sense of humour, irony, the delicate art of jest.  Ever notice how American English is nearly devoid of such terms and expressions as 'take the mick/p(*s', 'wind up', 'cheeky', etc. 

Sorry but I just don't see the vehement 'hatred', just people unafraid to write what they think.   :-\\\\

Then again, my first experiences of living abroad on my own were in France, where people like to banter, joke and talk politics.  And whose language is full of irony, double entendre, and tricky nuance.


Re: Do I need a US Passport?
« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2005, 10:08:03 PM »
Well good god, what do you expect when someone questions why they should hang on to their passport? She's almost screaming that she doesn't want to be American anymore!!!

WTF are you on about?
I felt it was a legitimate question, but obviously you know better...   ::)  Interesting what you have read into my question!
BTW, you have no f*cking idea what position im in with this passport thing, nor my reasons for asking the question.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2005, 10:10:26 PM by otterpop »


Re: Do I need a US Passport?
« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2005, 10:13:26 PM »

Interesting what you have read into my question!

Indeed.  Especially given some peoples' history of having flounced back to the US in utter disgust, and then they're back here in record time . . .  :-\\\\ :-X

« Last Edit: November 04, 2005, 10:16:39 PM by expat_in_scotland »


Re: Do I need a US Passport?
« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2005, 10:23:18 PM »
Or maybe, just maybe, some of those people have adopted some of the ways of their new home - such as not taking everything so seriously or personally, a sense of humour, irony, the delicate art of jest.  Ever notice how American English is nearly devoid of such terms and expressions as 'take the mick/p(*s', 'wind up', 'cheeky', etc. 

Sorry but I just don't see the vehement 'hatred', just people unafraid to write what they think.   :-\\\\

Then again, my first experiences of living abroad on my own were in France, where people like to banter, joke and talk politics.  And whose language is full of irony, double entendre, and tricky nuance.

I don't care much about slang (American or Brit)...I just intreprut what I read as everyone does on here.....its all relative isn't it?

Like you, I say what I feel. Some of the time, its not worth the trouble, sometimes it is.  :P





Re: Do I need a US Passport?
« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2005, 10:26:34 PM »
I don't care much about slang (American or Brit)...I just intreprut what I read as everyone does on here.....its all relative isn't it?


Slang, mot juste or idiomatic expression? 

Quite right, it is all relative.  Go looking for something, you're certain to find it.   :P


  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 2985

  • An eagle swooped down from a semi-trailer
  • Liked: 0
  • Joined: Sep 2002
Re: Do I need a US Passport?
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2005, 12:24:36 AM »
Well, to be fair to Jules, while I can see Otterpop being perhaps slightly tongue in cheek, the con-current discussion on children's status was, at least to my reading eyes, in a more serious vein, and it did appear that people are serious about not wanting their children to be American while not having (yet) renounced their own citizenship. I am not sure about calling anyone 'un-American' but I don't think you can just say Jules is over-reacting to 'taking the piss' (teasing or kidding in American slang) or incapable of spotting sarcasm or irony. If Jules is incapable of such than so am I as I read a number of posts that way also, that some have moved here because they do not wish to be American, and/or do not want their children to be. I am not making any value judgement on that desire, btw, to each their own.


Sponsored Links





 

coloured_drab