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such a wierdo! reposting and all :)
« on: October 26, 2003, 07:53:58 AM »
hi all! sorry to be a bit of a pain but i have a few questions for you all. i spent the summer living in hythe in kent,england with my fiance and had a lovely time but had to return to illinois to finish my masters.  as the wedding draws ever nearer and my final move to the uk becomes permanent i am finding an uneasiness coming over me. so basically, i am wondering if anyone has had a similar situation. . . i.e. a taste of living in the u.k. with a return home before the full move. did your feelings change? was the final move easier or harder than you thought? i guess i'm just nervous now that i've had the ability to see the small differences between the uk and usa and am afraid that i will not get over the absence of 24 hr walmart and quick trips to the shops in my pjs. i dunno, any help would be appreciated.  

sorry to ramble on, but has anyone been married in the uk? are the differences really as big of a deal as they are starting to feel?    i guess i'm just looking for tips from those lovely people who have travelled before me and maybe for some calming words?!
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Re: such a wierdo! reposting and all :)
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2003, 10:06:15 AM »
Hi Amanda,

Congrats on your engagement, and welcome to the site.  :)

I think you're very, very wise to have come over here and spent some time checking things out.  You'd be surprised at how many people don't do that for any length of time.  It's a very different thing to come here on vacation, isn't it?  :)

I spent a month in the UK before moving here permanently.  But I spent that month being a 'tourist'...so when I moved, everything was a surprise.  I couldn't find anything I wanted at the grocery stores, I was terrified to go anywhere alone....it was a big shock.  So to answer your question, no, I didn't change my  mind after visiting here.  I was still very enamoured with everything...including my soon-to-be-husband.  ;)

Adjusting to life here is a very personal thing.  How it goes for you depends on where you chose to live, who you are, and your attitude towards life.  

Yes, getting used to things here is hard.  But you do get used to it.  It takes a bit of time, but one day you just wake up and it's not so bad.  Then, a couple of months later you start feeling like it might actually be pretty good.  And soon, it's home.  

Being realistic about the challenge in front of you is a good thing.  This is a big deal, moving to another country.  At least you are able to better make that decision now that you have a clearer picture of life here....it's not a fairy tale.  :)

The differences are as big as they are starting to feel...but I have been here for a little over 2 1/2 years now and I can honestly say that they start being okay eventually.  As long as you accept that it's not an easy thing, and your husband is able to really support you through the first year or so when your emotions are extremely unpredicable, you'll be fine.  :)  There are a lot of really great things about British life.  Part of the fun is finding them.  ;)

Best of luck to you, and hang in there.  Making the decision and taking the plunge is a really big step and probably the hardest bit.  And you know, planes go both ways...if you really don't feel like you can live here, there are lots of places in the world you can try.  :)


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Re: such a wierdo! reposting and all :)
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2003, 04:19:22 PM »
I can't add much to that wonderful post by Wish....but I can share in your nervousness at moving.   :)  I can also add my welcome to the site and tell ou to please keep posting because these people are wonderful and really are a huge support for those of us who have yet to move, those that have moved and even those that want to move back.

Big hugs and best of luck on the Masters!
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Re: such a wierdo! reposting and all :)
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2003, 04:40:03 PM »
Hiya Amanda,
Iam agree with vnicepeeps,that I cant add much ,since Wish did a lovely job  :)
Just to give you a hug for support and tell you that we all here know how you feel,and understand it.No matter how much a person is excited and open to a new experience,they still have pangs of being uncertain and scared.
On a personal note,the first time that I lived in the UK,I didnt know about this forum or had any yank friends going through the same as me.Although I was very happy there with my wonderful husband,there was many times that I was feeling isolated.
 Not only am I very excited to move back again,but happy to have found this place with the wonderful peeps here. :)
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Re: such a wierdo! reposting and all :)
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2003, 03:29:25 AM »
Hi Amanda...welcome to UKY. :)


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Re: such a wierdo! reposting and all :)
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2003, 06:45:59 AM »
I've never lived in England but have lived all over the US and in Germany. The only thing in addition that I can offer is that a lot depends on attitude. If you decide that you are going to embrace the differences and get to know the culture and the people you will be far better off. It is ok to miss some things from other places you have been. I miss the steak sandwiches that I could get in Pennsylvania, the abundant wildlife we could see just driving a road in Alaska, the beautiful mountains of Idaho and Utah, and the castle on the hill behind my house in Germany. I'm still not quite sure what it is about East Texas that I love so much, but I'm just as happy here. So get out and enjoy life. You can always come back to the states for a visit.
Good luck on your studies and congrats on your upcoming wedding.


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Re: such a wierdo! reposting and all :)
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2003, 07:54:41 AM »
thank you all for your kind thoughts and experiences! knowing that there is a culture of people that feel or have felt like i do means the world right now! i am glad to know that i'm not the only one out here. i now feel justified in breaking down at the grocer this summer after i couldn't find egg noodles to make tuna casserole. :) thanks again.
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Re: such a wierdo! reposting and all :)
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2003, 02:29:50 PM »
I have to say I to am so happy to have found this site. Having been here only a month myself and also getting married soon I can identify with you magnabosco. I come here often to read the post and cry a bit myself. It helps and I get some great advice and encouragement and I don't feel so alone in my venture when I feel there are others who have gone before me and understand what I am feeling.  It really helps me not to beat myself up so much because I moan about the differences. Someone said something to me about riding as roller coaster and that is just how it feels. Just feels great to know that roller coaster keeps going up as well as comes down. :)
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Re: such a wierdo! reposting and all :)
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2003, 04:29:54 PM »
Hi there Amanda, welcome to UK Yankee.  Congratulations on your engagement.  Like weddings aren't hard enough to plan - you had to add a major move too huh?  Yeah I know what its like.  I'm doing that too.  But I wouldn't have it any other way either.  I know you'll find what you need here.  I think you'll also find friends too.  So stop in often.  
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Re: such a wierdo! reposting and all :)
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2003, 12:35:19 PM »
Hey Magnabosco, I just wanted to add my two cents to this.  I've lived in the UK for six years now ( :o ), and some days I still find it really hard to be here.  But then again, I did things in a very strange way.  

I spent four years living in Scotland, working on my thesis, and just as I was gearing up to go back to Canada, I met my husband-to-be.  About seven months after that, during the same week I was preparing to submit my final draft, I found out that I was pregnant (and five months along already!).  So, events sped up quite a bit.  I moved to York, I redecorated a house, I planned a wedding, I gave birth (C-section!), and then I got married, all in the space of five months.  

So, I had time to get used to Scotland, but not to get used to England, and there are some serious differences here!  Not least in the fact that I am living in one of the worst council estates in York... though people are trying to clean it up, it is a very slow process.  I have been singled out by the kids/thugs (same thing here) as the "Canadian Freak" and I am sometimes too scared to walk the 50 metres down the road to the shop just to get some snacks at night, because the kids are so aggressive.  (Just to give you an example - about two months ago, I was physically attacked by a new boy on our street.  He rushed at me with a long metal pole, and jabbed it in my back.  While his mother was watching... who said absolutely nothing to me... no apology, no reprimand to the child.  Who is four years old, by the way.  And plays in the street on his own.  Whom I saw playing with a lighter near the gas pipes for his own house, trying to set the casing on fire.)  

But this is nothing in comparison to how much I miss home.  We just got back from a visit to Canada, and my son loved spending time with his grandparents there.  My husband's parents have seen my boy twice in this last year.  They spend no time with him, they never call, they never ask after him, and they make no effort whatsoever to be grandparents.  And I despise the fact that they are here and do not care, and my parents are 5000km away and they DO care.  I wish they could see my boy grow up...  my dad is getting older, and I'm afraid that he won't be around too much more, and that he's going to miss seeing Connor grow up....  It sucks, and that's why I hate being here.  But that's the only reason.

So...  I hope your situation is not as oppressive.  It's not all bad for me though.  I have made a few friends, and now that I can drive (woo-hoo!), I can do so much more.  I've decided to make the stately homes of England my new hobby, and I'm going to visit as many in the area as I can, and learn as much as there is to learn about each of them.  I've joined the National Trust (which is a lovely organization dedicated to the protection and restoration of the heritage of the UK, homes and gardens and coastlines included), and I am planning to get involved with their volunteer work too.  

It takes time, and effort on your part too.  Eventually you will find UK equivalents to the groceries you need...  it only took me four months to find Kraft Dinner here.   ;D ::) (Just so you know, it's in a red box - not blue - and it's called, Kraft Macaroni and Cheese.  But it is still the neon orange cheese powder I remember from back home!)  My advice: check out all the different grocery chains here - you should find egg noodles in one of them!  

There will be bad days, there will be good days.  And eventually, there will only be good days.  Everybody here is ready and willing to help and to listen - why else would this site be here?  Good luck, and see you here soon.

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Re: such a wierdo! reposting and all :)
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2003, 10:42:33 PM »
Hiya Morgana
Oh hun I just feel awful for you :'(  Bless you,is there no way you can move?? I know sometimes thats easier said then done though.
It sounds like you are trying to make the best out of a bad suitation ,and I know that is what keeps us going sometimes.
You said you was driving and made some friends,thats good hun.Having you hubby and little one there,Iam sure gets you through the darkest moments as well
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Re: such a wierdo! reposting and all :)
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2003, 01:00:35 AM »
Hey Rhia.  Thank you...  :-*  We are looking to move, but it won't be for a couple more years.  We have been trying to knock this old council house back into shape, so that we can rent it out (to pay the mortgage) or sell it on (to pay the mortgage!).  But we haven't decided when or where to move.  We just know that this is a temporary situation.  

I've just got to think of it this way - if we moved now, that is one less decent family living on this street, making it harder for the good and decent people here to make the street better, and easier for the thugs and slackers to take it over.  It has been much quieter around here this last week, in comparison to last year.  We didn't get one egg thrown at the house this year, and the fireworks haven't been out of control and non-stop.  May have something to do with the wonderfully threatening letter distributed to the entire street by the Council and the Police that stated if anyone was caught doing anything wrong, they would be chucked out, or they would have criminal charges laid against them!   ;D ;D ;D ;D

Anyhow... some days are better than others.  My boys keep me smiling (but it's for their sakes that I want a better location).  

Morgana

ps - I still miss my parents though.  I haven't seen my dad smile that much since I was little... he loves my son so much!  I can't bear thinking that these two have to be apart right now....   :'(  Ah well...  
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Re: such a wierdo! reposting and all :)
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2003, 05:04:02 PM »
Your very welcome Morgana.Well thats good then ,that you do have a positive goal that you are working towards for the house suitation.

I agree with what you said about standing up to the bullies on your street,and trying to take your neighborhood back.I wonder is there any programs like the block watch ,like there are in the States??

Aww bless your Dad,and I know how much it hurts you that he is not there to see your Connor grow up.Is there any way from him to come over for a visit??
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